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Been awhile since I watched it. My recollection is that Jeff Wright and Shane Conlan were among their better defenders that game and the comment earlier about 3rd downs being the difference agrees with my thoughts. The missed tackles on Ingram's 3rd and 13 conversion were the defensive fail of the game. Shane rarely played on third and long.

What's your point? My point is that the errant throw is not the result of an accuracy problem as was implied. It's the result of an arm slamming into a hard object prior to the release point. Watch what Hightower does to Morse on the play. Josh is willing to stand, deliver and take the hit but runs out of time to finish the throwing motion. Nice play by Dont'a Hightower.

At 44 sec, Josh's side arm flick attempt to Beasley runs into Dont'a Hightower's facemask.

It's a blur before the deflection and it's a blur after just like pretty much every other tipped ball shown in this thread. Batted balls are obvious. They go up or crash to the turf. Sometimes they get picked. Tipped/deflected ones are not, especially without a decent angle to view it and without ultra high speed cameras the wobble won't be seen. Actually, we never even see the laces on these throws which are spinning at ~600 rpm.

At :12 sec vs. Redskins, Cole Holcomb with the tip. Endzone shot of the play.

Singletary faced an 8+ box something line 5% of the time. For Gore it was near 40%. I thought Gore's usage leaned more toward the heavy, short yardage/goal line jumbo packages as the season went on. So, my sense is that Gore's ypc is more the result of the number of failures in those situations which may not have been much on him. I think Josh became the better choice in those situations anyways because they would usually just need to block a few defenders to make the play work. That is unless they messed up the snap.

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I'm certainly not an expert on the rules or the reasons for them but some of these might have long-lasting effects while others might not last beyond the day they are taken.

It appears that he thinks so too.

I recently came across the endzone view of the throw at :37. The takeaway for me is this. Every time that someone is all worked up about some errant throw that Josh makes and wants to crap all over his accuracy, consider taking a closer look. His reputation is often the only explanation that some will ever need and they are not inclined to search any further. I suspect Josh's throws may be more velnerable toward tips like this. His arm strength means he can wait a beat longer but it gives the defenders a little more time to step into his throwing lane and try to time the jump. They are tough to see at normal play speed.

Given the contract Tony Romo just got, I'd think Fitz should really consider that for his next gig. I think he'd kill that role just like he did the FJ roast. Given the cities he's played in, the players and coaches he's gotten to know, the nice rapport he has had with the press and fans and his overall good will reputation throughout the league, he'd maybe be even better at it than Romo.

The next Fitzscream! Hopefully not on 9/20.

He looks like he's about to raid the federal Arsenal at Harper's Ferry.

Some reports said he failed it. Maybe that's just an assumption since he was arrested.

Maybe it's been addressed in this thread but does that video look like a failed field sobriety test? Those that know more can weigh in but at 9PM, after bouncing around in a dune buggy all day and at 280+ lbs. I thought he did ok. At my best I'd do about the same (50+ and 40+lbs. overweight) and the only drinking I do is part of the free wine samples at Olive Garden.

I suspect there was too much variance in the type of pass he could choose to throw. Add in windy conditions and he would have even more reasons to vary the kind of deep ball he chooses to throw. Because his arm is so strong he can vary the launch angle and velocity so there are multiple ways to get the ball 60 yards down the field. Many QBs can only get it there one way, max velocity at the optimum angle.

I think most who like their combine numbers do not run at their proday. Those who did not post a time at the combine that they feel is their best effort are rather anxious to improve upon them at their proday. Both Epenesa and Moss were denied the chance to do just that and if they had they likely would not be Bills.

I know that it's an attempt to be happier post Christmas with the gifts you got rather than what you thought you wanted but..... Let's compare him to Taylor, the homerun hitter. It's likely true that Zack blocks better, does more as a pass catcher, breaks more tackles and fumbles less than JT. If this is generally true, we'd all be quite pleased that he's a Bill. The bonus is that Epenesa is on the team too.

He is inclined to not give up on a play and he has a rare combo of size, power and athleticism that allows him to extend the play when it would have otherwise been over for most anyone else. That's when we hold our breath because something amazing/head scratching is likely to happen. To his credit, I think the last of the latter type happened in weeks 3 and 4. That is until the pitch attempt in Houston.

I sense we will be having some sort of argument about by which measure do we say he is "Top 10" or whatever. In fact, to be even having that debate would be a good sign. It is rare for the starting QB of a regular playoff contenting franchise not to be thought of as a top performer. That's the way it works. I think Josh will be at a minimum the equal of Joe Flacco as a passer. The other offscript, playmaking traits are mostly a bonus beyond what most other QBs offer but do get him in trouble at times as well. He is working his way up from the bottom and entering 2020 as about #20 or so but trending towards the top.

If they make that improvement in scoring, he'd be the biggest contributor to it. There'd be improvements in most all of the "individual" QB stats.

A "parody of an NFL QB prospect" simply would not be capable of performing that well in those situations. So most here would agree that he cleared that Barr too. Two areas that are 100% on him to improve upon. Ball security while on the move and under tackle and consistently giving his WRs a chance to make a play on the deep throws. We should be able to see if he improves in those areas rather easily. I think 400+ points would be a nice benchmark.

No RZ interceptions either. I think that's because when he can run it in from 20 yards and under, he doesn't feel the need to force the ball to get the TD. He is a good/great short yardage runner and he is good/great against nickel defenses with their backs turned. Those TD runs could be more TD throws but at the risk of likely more ints.

Some RBs take hits and others deliver them. I think he is more the latter. He seems to have good to great vision, get very low prior to contact, protect the ball and maintain his balance after delivering the blow, sometimes with a Kenny Davis "Texas Twister" type spin move. He should rarely be tackled for a loss. He has a leverage advantage on taller LBs and a momentum advantage (m * v) on most DBs who might choose to step into his path. Assuming they are a successful duo, and they just might be all that, I wonder what such a pair would be worth on their second contracts. If they split the work load they may be viable talents through a second contract and do generally great things for the Bills offense in all situations. So, it is considered foolish to pay a RB Todd Gurley or Zeke Elliott contracts but what does Brandon Beane pay each half of a highly effective pairing? I hope we get to see in the next few years.

How much more of a "project" is he? Josh Rosen was the consensus "most pro ready" QB of the 2018 draft. How is that project going? Is Sam Darnold closer to being a finished product? Is that project further along?