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Josh takes a borderline hit and embellishes its effect on him so that the referee will feel the pressure to drop the flag. He will also hold the ball to the last possible moment where the hit is immanent but he can still release the ball cleanly, thus creating a borderline hit. Very rare for Josh to take a hit that he did not see coming but he chooses not to avoid many of them at the cost of missing the play. Mastering QB time and space.

QB chasing the ball carrier for 30 yards vs stationery in the pocket watching the play and getting lit up. Can't be the same.

Horrible to break the huddle that late on the road on such a crucial play. That's not on Stroud.

ESPN out before we even know the spot for first down

The hidden value of sack avoidance.

Got it. Makes sense now. Obviously the Bills lean on Cook and Josh to run it in when close. I think I hear people say that Lamar's EPA/play is higher. Maybe people are just puking out mangled facts

Yeah I get that but EPA is one that is frequently cited and according to the reference I found, Josh led in total EPA and EPA/play. So maybe consumers of football analytics can explain to me why this conflict of facts exists.

Yes. The sequence would be 1) Josh balls out 2) Ravens lose 3) NFL awards ceremony Lamar wins MVP 4) Lamar has to go onstage to accept. Forever awkward scene which would be something for sure.

Ok. I have heard it said by many sources, from Mina Kimes to Joe Marino, when they have weighed in on MVP or QB comparisons, that Lamar leads in EPA. Maybe it's the stat source or some twisted semantics of the English language, but this would need some explaining.

Jordan Burroughs.

The one I saw had Florio make that point and Simms agreed with him. But, I could see that if a voter was really torn about the evaluation, they might split their votes along those lines. Josh more valuable in elevating his team to a more successful season and Lamar with the more spectacular production in the scope of his team's success. Historically, split votes don't seem like a thing but when faced with a historically tough choice, I could see several voters opting for that approach.

There is a traffic light at the ECC exit onto Southwestern Drive that is controlled by a sheriff deputy. There are two other ECC exits onto Big Tree heading west and there are two left turn options off of Big Tree that get you headed toward Hamburg and would let you avoid the traffic light at the intersection with Southwestern. .

I thought they were still letting the Paxton Lynch cycle play out.

Ok. Not a big source. NFC won those 17th game home matchups, 9-7.

Well the NFC hosted an AFC team this year for the "17th game" that was added to the schedule. These are matched up as teams of the same divisional finish from the prior year. I know home field is not a big enough advantage to account for all of that difference but it might account for some of that as well some of the AFC advantage last year.

Four A-10's in the flyover and Kyle for the Legend of the Game honors. Seems like a match.

Can't make a right turn leaving lot 1. I think you were doing well at ECC but the new stadium construction site has messed with the foot traffic considerably. My suggestion would be to consider parking at Bert's Bikes. There is a traffic light there and it's controlled by a county sheriff deputy. Making a right turn puts you headed SW on Southwestern Drive (go figure) and a right turn at the the blinking yellow by Tops puts you headed east on Big Tree. This may be largely what you have been doing all along which is smart. It's the post game traffic equivalent of a naked bootleg. I usually head home to the Jamestown area but have used that route to get to the airport by ASAP by driving to route 5 and then through downtown which is mostly empty on a Sunday. I suspect you wanted to shorten your walk for whatever reason. There are places along Southwestern that can put you closer and still give you the same option out but many are not paved and pedestrian traffic complicates it, imo. I think post season games are a new deal, but, yes, would still need the parking pass, I do believe.

That Forrest Gump running style goes away when he is carrying a football. Should have run the combine 40 that way.

Things I remember about Cribbs. 1) Played at Auburn in a backfield with James Brooks and William Andrews who were decent NFL backs as well. 2) Left the Bills to play in the USFL for the Birmingham Stallions. 3) The mattress commercial was pretty funny. 4) The Chuck Knox era of Bills football was the first one that I could appreciate as a fan. Those were fun teams for a brief time. Something I did not know. Pro Football Reference credits him with 28 fumbles in his first two years. That number seems impossibly high and I can't believe Chuck Knox would have put up with it. It's a wonder that he made it to year 3 and that it didn't stain his legacy as a RB. In general, there were many more fumbles back then but Cribbs rookie year total of 16 is the record.

I have wondered if the article Dunne published last year after the Eagles game made any sort of change in the way Sean does his job. Some of those incidents described within it made Sean look like a jerk and I doubt Sean wants to present himself that way. But, imo, those obsessed with winning and that are stressed about every little detail that could get them beat, truly do look like jerks to the normal world. He might have seen the reflection in the mirror and decided to change some of the things he saw.

To refine the bolded since math may be different here in the US: Lamar = 9/1074 = .00838 TO/snap or 119.3 snaps / TO Josh = 8/968 = .00826 TO/snap or 121.0 snaps / TO which truly is practically the same thing.

One play of note, he had a chance to get a scrambling Milton in the open field short of a first down and gave him a glancing blow that allowed him another 6 yards or so before he went down. But, Milton has a very Josh Allen like athletic profile and we know that Josh usually beats the LB in that situation too.

That was Aaron Schatz formerly of Football Outsiders. Josh led in DVOA and was near to Dak Prescott and he is the creator of that metric. He went so far as to say that the impact of Josh's ints was atypically less than the raw number would indicate due to the context of where and when they happened. He took some crap last for his lone vote and, in a manner of being consistent which I can respect, I would suggest that he will probably vote for Lamar this year.

I liked the discussion as well but I have no prior opinion about Mayes and Classon's work. The part I can buy into is the discussion about the sacks. I think sack avoidance is an underrated part of Josh's game. Something that is of an elite level especially given his tendency to hold the ball. One of those two called it Peyton Manning level of sack avoidance.

Certainly the best of all. My sense is that Josh is somewhat disdainful of the Pro Bowl. This might be due to previous snubs, or the lingering disappointment of a playoff loss and needing to step away from football or a having a beat up body that wants nothing more demanding to do than swinging a golf club at the Pro/Am. We have discussed this before at TBD so I know I am not the only one that thinks this. TBD topic/253065-josh-allen-not-in-pro-bowl-because-of-pebble-beach-tee-time-minshew-going-as-alternate