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Josh and McD both said it was on Josh as a poor decision. I wonder if they mean about where Josh chose to locate it or whether he should have targeted Brown at all. JB had trouble finding it, looking over his right shoulder then his left. The DB saw it the whole way.

Tim Roth's Archie Cunningham is a cinematic masterpiece of a villain. Whenever I saw images of Johnny Manziel I thought of Archibald. Forever connected in my brain.

I am a numbers guy. I would like info on ball velocity, trajectory, rpm's on throws. I'd like to know "would have been good from X yards" on kicks. I'd like to know how much a ball's flight was effected by the wind. They give this kind of data for PGA tee shots and MLB home runs in real time. Give it up. Nerds want to know.

My take is that getting the ball out quick and being quick to check it down are the preferred moves for QBs that can't be trusted, are incapable of extending plays and/or of creating anything special. As a raw score, the TO# seems high but on a per play or per "time of possession" basis, I would guess that it would look different. Josh does expose the ball too much in a calculated way, usually while under threat of tackle (a blindside hit and a chop on an arm ready to throw is rarely not the cause of a fumble for any QB.) He has to be near the top in broken/missed tackles. That pump fake move he makes is one example and the stiff arm move is another. When he does the former he might lose the grip on the ball or maybe get splattered by a defender whom ignored the fake and with the latter, he will extend the ball away from the defender in one hand and use the other for the stiff arm attempt. These are almost reflex reaction moves that defy game situations and seeing the ball flailing around scares the curse words right out of my mouth. Josh is often the master of controlled chaos but sometimes it goes wrong. I am trying to force my fandom to accept it, if not embrace it. Just remember what the alternatives have been and it makes it easier. Insert Russell Crowe "Are we you entertained!" gif here:

I suspect a Josh adlib. Like the pitch to Knox in the WC game vs. the Texans. Although on that play Dawson made no effort to lead for a block and trailed like the lateral was somehow a built in option.

I agree, I am reluctant to make sweeping conclusions based on one series in the 4th quarter with a small lead. I was hoping for a sustained drive that chewed clock in that situation. Our guy went for kill shots. How many times do we see a team run, run again, throw short of the sticks and punt? The throw to Brown was put in a bad spot (misread leverage?) and Brown had difficulty tracking it over his right shoulder then his left. Beasley looked like he was wrapped up before the ball got there and could not raise his arms to make the catch. That's how they looked from section 228 anyhow. Josh talks about McD preaching situational football to him and this is a classic instance where I bet that they had a conversation about it.

Shaq Lawson, Jordan Phillips, Dean Marlowe, Bobby Hart, AJ Klein, Matt Barkley, Taiwan Jones, Cole Beasley and John Brown. Maybe I am missing someone. This seems like an unusual amount of players for a 13 and 3 team to have on their roster who were here, gone elsewhere for whatever reasons (mostly money probably) and then returned to the team. I wonder what the locker room thinks of these guys. I suspect the messages and benefit are three fold. First, if you still have something to offer and were/are a good teammate, Brandon Beane and Sean McDermott won't hesitate bringing a player back to the roster. Second, the Bills like to say "come to Buffalo and be the best version of your self." I think to varying degrees, this is true of all of these players. Their experiences at their other stops in the league did not go so well, other than getting bigger paychecks in some cases. Third, the guys on the team have to feel good when former teammates are welcomed back into their locker room. John Brown seems like the most extreme case of this to me. He struck me as genuinely hurt that he wasn't brought back in 2021 and he only managed 3 targets and 0 catches on the three other teams he was on that year.. He probably had the most extended time off of an NFL roster before returning and had to wonder if his career was over. Also, both he and Beasley have to know that they are back on the team and getting NFL paychecks because Josh wanted them here. That seems powerful and adds extra meaning to any plays they make. From March of 2021.......... But for Brown, he went Sirius XM Radio, stating he didn't see the move coming at all. He also stressed that he did wonder if Josh Allen played a part in his release. "We didn't know nothing," Brown said. "You know, we weren't even given a heads up. But you know I'm a strong believer in God. I just had a feeling it was going to come to that time especially when the money dropped. I dealt with a few injuries so I missed like five games and the team went five-and-oh without me. I don't know if they gave Josh Allen Input on it. I feel him being a big-time quarterback he should've had input. If he did have input I thought he would've wanted me to stay." That TD catch he made on Sunday had to mean more to him than most any other he has ever made and he gave the ball to Denny Kellington.

I love when a weak take gets carpet bombed with facts.

This morning on WGR, Jeremy White was speaking of the hidden turnover margin that favors the Bills. Yes, the Bills do seem to have some sloppy turnovers and are near even in turnover margin but if you consider punts as "turnovers lite," the Bills have a hidden, major turnover advantage and it's likely sourced in the 3rd and 10+ stat you cited. If it's anything like the 40/10 numbers you gave, that's why there are a whole lot of punts that were never made.

Or, if you are correct, the Bengals did not get a look at how Ken Dorsey preferred to use him and if they have the personnel matchups to cover him. So the Bills can spring it on them without them being totally prepared.

I think it says that for the most part, the Bills lacked a Beasley/Crowder option in their offense for the bulk of the season. Those routes would tend to be at or near the sticks. I do not know how it ended up or where to go to get it, but the Bills offense was likely at or near the top of the league in 3rd down conversion in most all situations. Josh is not wired to throw short of the sticks on third down.

Stidham trained some with the Jordan Palmer group. If he led the Raiders to an upset win, I'd think Josh might owe him a "major award."

If they were playing the Bengals, Detroit would be very fair. If they were playing KC, Indy would be a nice host site where fans from both participating cities would have similar travel times.

Well I know something of this. Last game vs. the 'Phins went to the ECC lots where I would normally park near their football field. On this day they were filled earlier than normal so I had to park on the southside of the campus. After the game I ran into a line of 10 or so Uber drivers lined up near where I parked. It's a fairly easy exit from those lots with a traffic light controlled by an Erie County Sheriff Deputy that allows entry onto Route 20 (Southwestern Drive) so it makes sense to have a pickup location there. I do not know how many other such locations there might be but this seemed like a well thought out one.

A few years ago we had a stray cat hanging around our back porch. Very friendly and wanted a home and to belong somewhere. I started calling him Barkley after our BB QB2 at the time and current practice squad QB. It was right around the time of the Renegade Matt Barkley performance in Pittsburgh. Barkley is a way cooler name for a dog.

It's not the block, which was excellent, but how he dipped his head at the end to make contact with the back of Taron's helmet. Intentionally went out of his way to make that contact, which is illegal whether they are on their feet or on the ground, I would think. It's much like hits on the QB that are legal but become a penalty when the defender tries to stuff the QB by landing on him with bull body weight which can separate a shoulder or crack ribs.

Must be something that makes having a great sense of humor go well with being a journeyman QB. Case is right there with Fits with the self deprecating jokes. The "fan" at training camp wanting autographs, the Bills store employee trying to sell the Keenum jersey and now the "nothing but a jockstrap on at walkthrough." Great humor~superior intelligence~emotionally secure~lower ego = can play in the NFL for a long time.

It is the culture of the game. The best ability is availability, right? Tua is giving everything he he has to prove he's worthy of a second contract and a franchise keeper. He has heard all the criticisms about his lack of physical tools and the stories of the owner trying to replace him. I think he is fighting an early end to his NFL career so he is not going to willingly succumb to any obstacle. The back injury loophole was his go to story to keep playing. He knows that he can't show any signs of weakness. These 3 concussions were not abnormal football plays. The hip fracture was not an abnormal play either. He is fighting the perception that he isn't physically suited to be an NFL QB. Often perception is reality.

It was embarassing. Most of the rag arm throws from the upper deck landed short and on fans in lower deck. They hit camera operators, sideline viewers, security people and even Sal Capaccio. I was hoping that they would haul some of the guilty out after all the warnings.

I took "big" in the sense of MVP narrative. If Minshew plays an effective game and the Eagles win comfortably over one of the toughest opponents on their schedule, one might assume that it might diminish the Hurts' MVP scenario. I am not sure I buy that reasoning but I could see some thinking that way.

Mike Francesa. Looks like the OP from a merged thread stripped from it's title.

I agree with you and do not like the red on red look, much like cartoon characters in red long johns. But with lake effect snow and 15-30 mph wind, it's less red on red and more red on white which does look much better, imo.

I would hope the Bills/Lions do some sort of Giving of Thanks to RCW and his legacy before the game. Since SE Michigan and WNY are the primary beneficiaries of his foundation, it would be fitting. Also, it's in keeping with the spirit of the holiday.

Started his throw, paused it and then pulled the trigger. Throw was late and somewhat under powered (compared to what Josh needed to have on it.) This allowed Peterson to undercut the route. A similar hitch was in the motion on the goal line throw to McKenzie that ended up skipping to him. If he needs to make a power throw, that hitch is a power sapper. If he's making a touch throw, that hitch/reload is not such a big deal. So, I say the decision was ok initially but the hitch in the motion (based on a LB flashing through the throwing window?) messed with the timing and made it a bad throw.

Move to MNF and then the Thanksgiving Game moved to Black Friday, Saturday or regular Sunday. The NFL wants to get a game to that Friday for Amazon to stream starting in 2023 so it's not like they wouldn't want a trial.