Thurman#1

Sensational. They still need to keep trying to improve, as does every team. But this is a great GM with a great coach and an elite QB. That's major-league terrific!! Doesn't make me feel any better right now. Still feels awful. But we came through the drought. This is vastly, massively better.

BWAH ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Oh, you are so precious. This is just sweet and cute.

Dennison, for one. I can't speak for anyone else, but I cried.

Makes sense.

Unless you're the GM, what you have here is a guess, and one that doesn't make much sense. There are a bunch of cases, Tomlin at Pittsburgh for one, where the team was zeroed in on one guy, but brought in another guy for an interview, including some Rooney Rule interviews and some not, and the new guy blew them away and got the job. It happens. It's a possibility at every interview, including interviews where there's zero expectation of success. Another one happened in a case where Daboll was expected to be hired. As Hapless pointed out above, Daboll thought he had the job with the Chargers last year. They thought he had it too. But they'd scheduled Staley for an interview, and he knocked their socks off. It's far from the commonest outcome, but it happens. This might not be the most sad and pathetic strawman I've ever seen on these boards. On the other hand, it might. You know up there where you said "We get it"? Based on this post, you very clearly don't. Because your attempt to sum up his point was so far off-point as to end up saying far more about you than it did about him.

Yup, piling up in the manure piles inside the heads of three or so sad little trolls.

Without the slightest bit of doubt. Recency bias Fallacy of composition Negativity bias Loss aversion All logical fallacies that tie into this overreaction. Doesn't mean we should ignore it, of course. It was bad. But yeah, we're overreacting.

Yup. If you call this year's Von Miller and this year's Odell Beckham elite, as the OP does, we've got a few more who'd qualify, starting with Oliver, Dion ...

So you mean that we are an idiot unless we're all in on over-the-hill used-to-be-elite talents? Yeah, um, no, that's just you confusing an opinion with a fact. Those two weren't the reason they are in the SB. Yes, elite talent matters. But what you give up for it matters too. As does fit, financial details, how they fit your team's window, whether they'll take snaps away from guys you'll be developing, and a whole bunch of other stuff in this very complicated system. And again, those two aren't elite.

Couldn't know it would mean a Super Bowl. So basically, no. It's a bad move. But if Allen were injured for the year, sure.

We get it. My God, do we get it! How could we avoid getting it when you folks relentlessly thread-nap again and again about your obsession. Thing is, no matter how you feel about Edmunds, the Bills love him. Not to mention that the Giants are trying to cut salary and Edmunds will cost $13M this year. Probability roughly zero. Anyway, Bradberry $13.4M seems unlikely to appeal to the Bills. They've generally tried to keep maybe one expensive good CB (even in Carolina) and keep costs down there outside of that guy. Yeah, they could re-structure, but it doesn't really fit their M.O. I could be wrong, clearly, but I think they won't seriously consider him.

If she's a supermodel, I'm Mr. Universe and a megastar. Certainly a very attractive woman, though.

That is a wild overstatement, terrible all 3 years. Wildly exaggerated. They haven't been good enough. But they have been quite good at pass blocking for most of the past three years. Run problems, yes, at various levels and various times. An awful lot seems to come from injuries, from the unexplained regression of Williams and generally from problems interrupting a consistent lineup And Covid has caused a lot of up and down, with Dion and one or two others. They've generally been average to slightly above, with some dips below that as replacements were played and above that at times as they seemed to find consistency at times. Don't think they can block it, Hap, as his contract ended as the season did. According to these guys the Bills at one point tried to extend him and he refused that. Edit: Ah, you posted yourself that his contract was up, per Graham. The Air Raid guys report that he'd been offered an extension, though I didn't hear them saying exactly when that happened, though it sounds like they were talking about some time ago.

I love the way you arrange that. If the defense held the offense to very few points early then it doesn't count because the game wasn't contested. That's not a legit way to look at the defense's performance. It's a way to find the worst possible perspective on it. The defense played very well in most games. There were certainly a few exceptions, and they should be blamed for those. That Colts game was abysmal. But overall they played really well this year, including against pretty solid offenses An awful first half against the Bucs but a great second half. The offense had some awful games too and somehow nobody wants to talk about that. DVOA adjusts for strength of schedule and the Bills D ranked very high there. Almost as nutty as the fire McDermott fruitcakes, one of whom is also in this thread.

I thought the same thing about being worried that Hill being back there, but in fact, I found out a couple of days ago that he wasn't. He was on the sidelines.

Depends if you count Anthony Lynn. He was our interim head coach for a few weeks near the end of the season before he left, so it's arguable. 2017.

He also wanted "not the highest paid." And for good reason. IMO he's not getting all those together, high-producing, young, healthy and not to expensive don't tend to go together all at the same time. Oh, red is negative figures on Overthecap? Weird that they wouldn't just use the minus sign, but whatever. Even worse, then, if both of them have the Bills in negative figures. It's just that I keep seeing people saying the Bills have $10M available. At least twice so far in this thread alone. I don't know where they're getting that, but they oughta consider holding their horses. I love Colorado, by the way. If I ever move back to the states, that's where I'd go. My parents used to live up in Leadville, saw Mt. Elbert out the kitchen window every day. Love me some Colorado.

$10M? Spotrac has us in the negative numbers, at -$1.3M, though I think they haven't officially rolled over our money from last year yet. Overthecap has us at $4.5M, though I think they have just assumed the rollover. I wish we had $10M. You're right that we will release some guys and restructure a few, but they don't go overboard on that, as we know from past years. And you're right that we'll without a doubt bring back a bunch of our own FAs which will bring the totals back down.

Don't think we're going to be able to realistically afford those guys. Jackson and Chandler Jones? Wildly unlikely, is my guess.

No. Your post illustrates a lot of the problem. You ask if we can defend the modern-day TE, and then spend the whole post talking only about defending them on pass plays. The problem is that they can go out but the best ones are also really good blockers, on both pass and run plays, and that the guys who can cover them on pass plays mostly can't even begin to block them. They don't have the size. You can take a TE out of the play in coverage, using either a tremendous coverage guy or doubling him. But then he'll punch a hole in your run coverage, or help neuter one of your best edge rushers. Or the good ones will. Any really athletic player at any position is going to create a problem, even for a good defense.

I'd strongly argue whether McGahee was a steal or even a good pick where selected. If you sit out your first year, you'd better perform sensationally when you play. For those who don't remember, he averaged 3.8, 3.8 and 4.0 YPC his three years in Buffalo. After sitting for a year from that injury. Yeah we did not have a good OL, particularly in the last two of those three years. But while he developed into a guy who could stand up to a lot of carries, he was never a guy teams game-planned for. If he'd been a 3rd rounder, he'd have been a really good value. As a first rounder, a good player but not worth the pick. A career YPC of 4.0. A tough guy, not someone who struck fear in a lot of defensive hearts. He was the 23rd pick in 2003. Here are all of the RBs who've been picked at #23 or higher: 2005 #2 Ronnie Brown 2005 #4 Cedric Benson 2005 #5 Cadillac Williams 2006 #2 Reggie Bush 2006 #21 Laurence Maroney 2007 #7 Adrian Peterson 2007 #12 Marshawn Lynch 2008 #4 Darren McFadden 2008 #13 Jonathan Stewart 2008 #22 Felix Jones 2008 #23 Rashard Mendenhall 2009 #12 Knowshon Moreno 2010 #9 C.J. Spiller 2010 #12 Ryan Mathews 2012 #3 Trent Richardson 2015 #10 Todd Gurley 2015 #15 Melvin Gordon 2016 #4 Ezekiel Elliott 2017 #4 Leonard Fournette 2017 #8 Christian McCaffrey 2018 #2 Saquon Barkley And that's it. Nobody above #23 since 2018. As a group, that is not a history of good drafting. A few really good ones, but that's not how it leans overall. And while McGahee would probably be above the midline of this group, that says more about how bad the group is than how good McGahee was. That pick was Donahoe trying to show how smart he was, and failing.

Fair enough question, but here's another ... would he have been better if he hadn't hurt his knee? Was he ever as electric in the pros as he was at Miami? Here's a Miami highlight reel. Does any of those plays look familiar from his time in Buffalo or the rest of the league? That was an awful pick for the Bills, awful, especially as they already had Travis Henry. I would support the Jameson pick if the doctors are OK with it, but that McGahee pick was bad.

The penalty came before the TD. They would have had to call back the TD and back them up. Would probably have worked out in KC's favor. A minute left in the game and they have the ball on the 15 - 25. Neither defense was capable of stopping either offense at that point. They'd have run three or four runs and burnt more and maybe nearly all the time off the clock before scoring. The penalty would have been all out of proportion to the infraction. They made the right call there, though the fine should have been bigger. Even he would have sat up after getting a fine for $50K.

Yeah. I think that's why it wasn't called. They might have thrown it if doing so wouldn't have had a cataclysmic effect on the game. Delay of game, maybe. But those end zone shows - while immensely stupid - aren't taunts they're celebrations and not aimed at one guy besides.

No, he's not misreading anything. Yes, the rules favor the offense. That's why scoring is up. But the game is still about getting the highest score and that's accomplished two ways, by scoring more and by making the other guy score less. Go through recent SB winners and you'll find a big majority of good defenses. Offenses too. What you tend to find is balance.