WhitewalkerInPhilly

Hughes, especially if Bryce Brown is looking like a legit option.

Good point. Does anyone have the numbers on Orton's screen accuracy? I don't remember seeing Sammy doing a lot of them so I would love to see him getting in on some Sunday.

Good point. Does anyone have the numbers on Orton's screen accuracy? I don't remember seeing Sammy doing a lot of them so I would love to see him getting in on some Sunday.

I would note that that's from last year, right around the time that EJ roasted them.

That is the reason. NE had trouble but they also have really bad WRs to take advantage. The Jets do have a great Run D as well as us. If it comes to airing it out I like where we stand.

I honestly don't think that the Jets are as bad as their record. To be fair, they've already played the same teams we're looking at in our December to dread. That said they HAVE lost to two teams we best. There's a reason they're 1-6. I see this being a close game but if there ever was a time to bring back the hurry up West Coast offense we were promised this is it.

Last I heard Freddie was 2-4 weeks and was looking to be back for KC

I don't think anyone looked at our injured RB situation last year and said "Man, it would be a bad idea to have a quality insurance policy at RB considering how much we run it" FJ has been shocking good so far, but this looks like exactly the doomsday scenario that we are prepped to deal with. I'm curious to see what Brown can do for you.

I consider this a mark of how this season is different than the ones we've recently seen. We have gotten so used to blowing games at the last moment. Normally WE are the side which allows an 80 yard touchdown drive for the win with no time left. Whatever fair criticisms which come up otherwise, this is one that has been fixed so far this year.

Sammy. As much of a Sammy skeptic I am, oh dear god Sammy. Two touchdowns, including the clutch winning score.... I may be eating crow

I would also say there there is no such thing as an ugly win. They are uniquely beautiful, in the way that they cause the opposing team to freak out in special ways.

The old Bills have a history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. It's nice to see it the other way around for once.

The first injury report is due Wednesday. They were both limited on Friday and doubtful to play. Assuming that they are able to practice Wednesday even if limited there's a good chance at least one plays.

I will say that, looking at how Pettine has done on his own, and seeing how Schwartz has done with a defense that had outsiders screaming because he was going to be without Byrd and Kiko...and had made one hell of a unit 5 games in. Even in the games we've lost, defensive points allowed has been shockingly low, just how I like it.

Just in case you were screaming about how we should have taken Geno over EJ...

Technically Smith was never a free agent. He got traded for a first round pick. I'm not going to say we had no chance of getting him, but that's a heavy pick plus a vet's salary.

TBH Orton was probably the best QB to hit free agency since Manning, not that that is saying much.

I don't know about "blown up". I'm not thrilled but average QB play with a stellar D and a strong run game can get you to the playoffs in a weak division, which is what the AFCE looks like right now. I meant more on the sense that he's not a franchise QB

I feel the same way. Even if there is debate as to whether Orton is a short term improvement I don't think anyone considers him a long term solution. I think the question isn't "Can he win enough games for us" but rather "Can he not lose enough games for us".

I legitimately want EJ to be great for us and I've been one of his bigger apologists. But man he was brutal these last two weeks. Maybe Orton won't be better. Maybe some bench time will let him ride the pine and get his head clear. But we aren't going to the playoffs with play like that. Best of luck Kyle. Prove it with some wins.

i'll have to take a look when the game hits rewind, but it sounds like the jets' run defense looks as solid as ever, but their secondary sounds like a tire fire. and last night he gave up more turnovers in one game that ej has all year, including the safety. the jets's are also 1-2 to our 2-1 and their only win was an unconvincing one against one of the bottom five in the league. again, geno has better arm strength and accuracy, but makes more boneheaded decisions.

I think this week sums up the difference between geno and ej knocks really well. geno has brighter flashes of greatness, but whe he's bad, he hurts the team more than ej when he's bad.

we need a more realistic trade. maybe mario for skelton /sarcasm/

i'm not going to say that brady is over...but so far this year, he's looking human. the pats have drawn a relatively easy opening few weeks, playing the dolphins and losing on the road, beating up on a vikings team with no answer at qb, and barely squeaking by oakland. it looks like it might be happening boys. brady's slide may have begun.

I was looking over an article Bucky brooks wrote at the start of preseason, about how the big nickel is becoming trendy as a way to match up against 2wr, 2 te, 1 rb formations, something i suspect to see a lot of with the chargers talented te's such as gates, and pretty good wr's and an injured starting rb. in it, he specifically mentions that aaron williams fits the mold well as a big, physical safety who still has coverage skills. this might be how we play it.