GaryPinC

The thing that bugs me about this is the reason for the change: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/09/23/the-associated-press-drops-the-ugly-climate-term-denier-in-their-ap-stylebook/ "Some background on the change: Scientists who consider themselves real skeptics – who debunk mysticism, ESP and other pseudoscience, such as those who are part of the Center for Skeptical Inquiry – complain that non-scientists who reject mainstream climate science have usurped the phrase skeptic. They say they aren’t skeptics because “proper skepticism promotes scientific inquiry, critical investigation and the use of reason in examining controversial and extraordinary claims.” That group prefers the phrase “climate change deniers” for those who reject accepted global warming data and theory. But those who reject climate science say the phrase denier has the pejorative ring of Holocaust denier so The Associated Press prefers climate change doubter or someone who rejects mainstream science." BS. We're not rejecting it you dolts! There are components and assumptions, however, regarding the degree of man's role which I consider scientifically controversial. By calling ourselves skeptics we are wanting for more scientific and critical investigation. I consider myself skeptical about ESP, ghosts, etc. but don't summarily dismiss it because I try and keep as open a mind as possible. Definitely haven't seen enough evidence to firmly believe though. Call me a skeptic, please.

I consider myself a skeptic. I don't deny the warming trends or the work that goes into quantifying it. I don't doubt climatologists are doing their best with the research and there will be variable quality in any scientific research. But I am first and foremost skeptical about the large role ascribed to humans and the apparent dogma driving it and affecting the research.​

God didn't invent it, but after creating man, he certainly knew it was cumming.

I'm ok with them cutting Brown because Karlos needs to get more of the handoffs, Shady also needs fed and there aren't many touches left beyond that. Can't see the need for 4 RB's. That whole spiel about ground and pound was before camp when we were incompetent at QB. Can you really take that talk seriously looking at our receivers? Seeing Karlos in person Sunday made me realize what a great burst he has off the line and through the hole. The man doesn't mess around.

I was at the game yesterday and just a couple quick things: -no matter what happens this year it will be a great year to be a Bills fan! Last time I felt that way was the end of the 80's. So much talent and colorful personalities on this team. -I felt like Darby was asked to play tight man coverage all preseason but yesterday he was coached to allow a wide cushion and keep everything in front of him. I think he's going to be really good, probably shut-down type. Even in preseason I didn't feel like he got faked out and toasted by any receivers, just poor sense of how and when to make a play for the ball. He really started to make plays on the ball late first half and after he went out I was relieved it wasn't because of injury. -Karlos Williams needs more touches. He is the perfect complement to Shady, really quick up to the line, quick cut and go. Bruiser. I think he would have been more effective with the inside runs then Shady yesterday. Shady's a hell of a talent though, glad we have him. -Great job TT, I just want to see you dial it in and come through with the game on the line before I stop thinking about Manuel. This season will show us. -It's really pathetic when 2 offensive linemen successfully hustle to set up the screen blocking and then stand there and watch the DB shoot by them for the tackle. O-line needs to do better and glad RR mentioned it specifically today.

Can't agree with you on this. EJ was lost out there for the second game in a row when he got pulled. He needed to sit and circle back mentally. He has even said he learned a lot from Orton in the preparation/leadership part of the game. WRT Cassel, kudos to our coaching staff and front office. What a great competition. Bottom line is it was all on display in the Pittsburgh game. Manuel and Tyrod were on fire, Cassel comes in and stinks it up Trent Edwards style. Just in case we were imagining things with Cassel, and EJ just got lucky in his time, Ryan brings EJ in again. Added benefit of exposing the idiot journalists among us! It was only preseason but the little things showed up clearly with TT. And more evidence EJ thrives under pressure, which is what a franchise QB needs. This is the first time in many years I have real hope in our quarterback situation.

Thing is about Cassel, Chris Brown posted this on Monday: No surprise here. Tyrod Taylor first man thru in offense lineup warmups. Matt Cassel with 2nd group. https://twitter.com/ChrisBrownBills?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Which leads me to believe Cassel is #2. But it's Wednesday so who knows?

I felt Rex was pretty honest about the competition and how the QB's were performing, the media convoluted a lot though. I think he tries to speak the truth but also plays with his wording, the "we'll most likely keep 3 quarterbacks" never qualified if that meant Sims or not. I do believe Russ Brandon when he goes on record being unhappy about something. The rest of the time he's a gloss-over rainbow-farting unicorns guy. That's ok by me, it's his job. I think Cassel gets released as did Fred in big part because of the salary cap and upcoming FA's. I don't think Rex and FO would have gotten rid of Freddy otherwise. If either Tyrod or EJ show as a potential franchise QB there's that payday upcoming too.

Just have him and Gilmore exchange jerseys for the game.

If they're serious about making the playoffs this year you keep all 3 so you have enough depth.

It seems a more obvious tip from this angle.

So, I'm happy for EJ. I was at the Browns game and at times I saw a little hesitation/lack of confidence but he seemed to be making good decisions. I remember thinking he's improved but not quite ready yet, but who's to say whether it happens sooner or later? Rex is going to try for sooner. Good for him. For those who haven't, definitely worth the 7 minutes watching Rex's press conference on the Bills' website. Gives a lot of perspective, IMO, about giving the opportunity to Manuel and the game performances played a large part. So happy to have Rex as our coach thus far. He's been consistent about the process, telling us not to make too much out of things and letting the process play out.

Well, you know, Urban could also have them lose a couple games just to get that edge back. Oct. 17th would be perfect! :-)

I watched him throw twice before his receivers were open in the Browns scrimmage. WRT OP, if Tyrod were not here I would agree about starting Manuel but Tyrod deserves his shot. Manuel's confidence still isn't quite there yet but chances are a TT injury will force him in at some point this season.

Yep, though OSU is choosing between 2 proven quarterbacks with a 3rd proven one at WR. We're all here just hoping one of our guys can handle the regular season offense without screwing up too bad!

Ha! Yea, I do remember that series. I was just happy we were able to give you guys a great game because that seldom happens and drives me crazy! :-) Thing is, if he goes with Cardale, he'll also have Braxton Miller on the field to step in the backfield every so often and run some option. Urban definitely has a wealth of offensive possibilities this year. Should be a great year for the big 10. OSU should dominate MSU will be good, fun to see if UM and PSU make themselves relevant again, Wisconsin and Nebraska in that mix too and at least one other team of the rest. I would certainly respect Meyer not giving the job to Jones if he hasn't improved his work ethic. Thanks for that perspective.

Interesting the fan boards lean so strongly JT, and there's no question he can execute Meyer's offense and is extremely talented. I'm a Penn State fan but see plenty of OSU here in Cleveland, I think Meyer prefers a strong running quarterback like JT and option offense and so if he hands the ball back to JT it'll be interesting to see if it has any negative effect on their season.

I hear ya about all this, Yolo. But after Nick Saban had this to say about Jones: “The one thing that the new quarterback does is he has a tremendous arm,” Saban said. “And they have some very talented receivers. And the two things that were very apparent is those things became very apparent in the last two games because of the quarterback. “Now, they were a little different and the quarterback was a great runner when 16 (Barrett) was playing, and he was a good passer. But it wasn’t so obvious when you watched the film all season long that they had these great skill players that could really make plays down the field.” If I'm Meyer, do I really have a serious competition for Jones to reclaim his job? He took that offense to another level. As a buckeye fan, will you be satisfied if Meyer hands the ball back to JT? As far as competitive advantage by not revealing your starting quarterback, you are right but by announcing it in advance it's a statement that playing coy doesn't matter, we'll still kick your ass.

If the team knows, then someone will anonymously let the cat out of the bag. Not sure I agree that what Rex and Urban are doing is respectable if they let it linger longer. Make a decision and let the team invest in their new leader. WRT the buckeyes, what is going on down there in Cbus that Cardale Jones is not the starter? I understand last year and the injury to JT, etc but why is Meyer considering taking the ball out of Cardale's hands?

Hate to say it, but there's going to be a quarterback controversy the minute any regular season starter has an off game. Doesn't matter who starts against the Stillers and who starts the regular season. Only way to avoid it is if the annointed starter lights it up the first few games before running into trouble. Especially because there's no clear cut leader at this point and preseason pales in comparison to the pressure and complexity of the real games.

You're right on with this and wrt the OP, nothing in preseason is a true test. But if he can't perform well in this format it doesn't portend well for the regular season. Playcalling, stunting, blitzes, switches etc are extremely simplified in preseason and so QB's like Trent Edwards look like heroes until the regular scheming commences. I will say this, EJ under pressure and getting his throws out was a better test than most 2nd and 3rd stringers normally provide.

In being at the game last night I would simply say that IMO EJ's consistency was different last night. I missed the last drive and so am talking about all his previous work. He seemed to be seeing the field well, feeling the rush, and making good decisions (other than the sack). This time I would chalk it up to the failure/inconsistency of his teammates.

Good stuff from Bills website: http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2015/08/21/fan-friday-8-21-2/ Fan Friday: From Chris Brown- "I asked and Rex Ryan confirmed for me that they intend to keep three quarterbacks on their roster. I believe Ryan likes EJ as a quarterback and I think the organization feels there is still some ceiling to be reached by him as an NFL QB." http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2015/08/21/some-teammate-praise-for-manuel/ "Andre Davis who caught Manuel’s touchdown pass on fourth and goal was taken by Manuel’s cool persona during the most stressful part of the game. “He was real poised, man,” said Davis. “He’s just a real calm, cool, collected guy. He was very poised and he said we were going to make it happen at the beginning of the drive and he went down there and drove, and made it happen like he said he would.”

I don't know. I think they decided to pressure him by throwing him to the bottom of the pile and disrespecting him to see if he could rise to the top.

I was at the game last night with the kids so I left just before EJ's touchdown drive (figures!), but here's the rest of what I saw from the QB's: Tyrod seems pretty well in control of things, very fluid and played well. Other than his legs, not sure how big of a splash he can make as a QB but IMO he's earned his shot at it. Especially with Roman as OC. The dropoff in play of the backup O-line and D-line was scary last night. Anyone who cries about EJ throwing against 3rd stringers needs to realize the guy was under a ton of pressure every play. Our running game wasn't working either. He has noticeably improved with his accuracy and timing. Still doesn't lead receivers enough but the ball isn't 2-4 feet behind them either. He also was throwing balls before the receiver break which I hadn't seen from him before. EJ still isn't there yet with his confidence but he's getting closer. Needs to work hard on throwing on the run. That's where a lot of accuracy issues lie because his throwing motion can be inconsistent. He was seeing the field well, didn't miss open guys that I noticed. I think TT starts game 3 but give EJ a later series or two with the starters. After having so many meh quarterbacks I will freely admit to being biased against Cassel and would rather give these other two the playing time.