atlbillsfan1975

My friend was T.O.s message therapist here in Atlanta. When he got injured in Philly he flew her and her husband up to Philly so she could work on him. He put them up in his house. They have both said there is a big diference in the guy they know on a personal level and one we see on camera. It has always made me wonder. I have never really carred for him much, but more then one person i know here in Atlanta, that knows him has said 'there is a difference in T.O and Terrell'. For what its worth

I like the moves so far. But Oline needs to be addressed. I think we all agree on that. I think the Bills are waiting some guys out. Just like any other commodity the longer it sits the lower the price goes. so far the Bills have: LT Peters. I think his contract gets worked out. Dont think he will be wearing green next year. LG Maybe Simmons if the medical staff thinks he is ready to play. Sign to a two year deal. Starts this year. back up next. Rather not give up draft picks to K.C. for Waters. C Hangartner. I think he will be vast improvement over Preston/Fowler. Watched Carolina play a lot last year and the line looked damn good. Started 8 games for them. RG Butler. Smart and has developed nicely. If injury bug stays away he will be solid. RT Walker. Under contract for three more years. Very solid. And starts this year and next. Back Ups. Bell. With news that he is stronger and developing good. Might be the right tackle of the future. Haveing Peters and him as your bookends is exciting. Young Athletic tackles for years to come. Chambers is good depth at Tackle and gaurds. Draft a center ,prefer Wood from Louisville in third round if available or maybe Caldwell from Bama. Draft a gaurd in fith round. Best available at that point. What you guys think?

The Owens move is perfect. One year deal allows Johnson to develope some, and play. Hardy gets better and gets playing time when 100% healthy. Parish is an enigma. But could be a great situation type reciever. And with Greer gone and McKelvin probably playing starting CB, Parish maybe works more on becoming your punt returner/kick returner. Not to mention recievers get hurt just like any other position. If, god forbid. Owens gets hurt then its nice to know we atleast have some guys on the squad that might be able to step up.

Potential is a scary word. On one hand it means you have shown you can perform but on the other it means you lack the ability to do so consistantly. He is a fool. Even in my early 20s if someone told me all you have to do is put on a good show over the next three months and you will make 50 million dollars. Any you guys out there wouldnt be able to do that? I am sorry, do you want a guy like that on your team. He played lazy at Bama some times,just listen to Saban, others he was a monster. He was suspended in the Bowl game, which hurt his team and they lost. Not solely because him, but they could not stop Utahs vaunted blitz packages(joke). So what makes us think he is gonna change? If he is that unintelligent to grasp how he is hurting himself, what makes us think he will make good decisions once in the League. No thanks. Pass!

The other arguement you can make is that the D will also benefit. If lik eyou pointed out, the offense clicks. We finally get to watch a consistant pro offense move the ball control the clock and score points, then the D gets rest and we dont have to watch the opposing team go on 70 yd drives in the fourth quarter to seal a victory. This happened in to many games last year.

atlanta aint what it use to be. They pretty much broke up the Buckhead night life. The Ray Ray incident brought a lot of bad elements and eventually the bars got sick of dealing with the crap loitering outside and scarring of customers. There are still pockets/ areas to go out in. but the buckhead hayday is gone.

I agree totaly with you. Center makes line calls and holds down the shortest distance to the qb, as well as help open inside running lanes. Thats why i think if you can get one of the good young centers in the second you jump on it. Then Hangartner can slide over to gaurd in 2010. A position he also did well at while in Carolina.

The last few coaches TO has had have all taken different approaches. Parcells refered to him as 'that player'. Hardly if ever calling him by name. Phillips went totally the other way. Embraceing/praising him as openly as a coach could. TO seemed to produce and stay in line a little better under Parcells style. Jauron i think is setting the tone. He has always preached team. You hardly ever hear him praise a player by name or repremand any single player. He instead talks about 'or quarterback' or 'our cornerbacks'. This just might be what TO needs. A coach we will praise the team and make him a part of its overall success. If not TO is gone after one year. And we can stop complaining the Bills never try anything or do anything exciting.

Currently being reported Peters and Bills are working on a deal. So left tackle should be good for awhile. Center was addressed with Hangartner who will be a big step up over Fowler/Preston last year. Butler at right gaurd is turning into a solid player. Walker is under contract for another 3 years at right Tackle. So that leaves left gaurd open. I dont like the thought of Whittle playing there everydown. He seems as a quality depth guy. My approach would be get Simmons for a two year deal if the medical staff feels he is ready. Draft a center in the second or third round to develope under Hangartner for a year. Grab a gaurd later in the draft in round 5/6 to add depth and work in behind Simmons. The thing that has me most excited is the new that Bell seems to be progressing nicely. Think about if he could turn into your everyday right tackle. He had great athleticism out of college, just lacked strength. Another year in the weight room should help with that, and he serves a the back up right tackle for the next two seasons. Then you have two young great tackles, center is addressed for awhile. Butler and Hangarnter are your gaurds and add depth/ one day starts in the draft. Set for years. Well atleast in theory.

Moving from left tackle to left gaurd is not an easy move. However for someone as young as Bell it would not be as difficult a switch as say an Orlando Pace, or another longtime starter at tackle. Look how Peters was able to go from right tackle to left tackle. Thats a much more difficult move. And from everything i have heard about Bell he has the athleticism of Peters but lacked the strength. I think he only did 225 bench 9 times at the combine. That is not very good for a linemen. So if he has gotten stronger, and kept his athleticism. He will probably by the depth we need this year. I would like to see the Bills bring in another Vet maybe for a 2 year deal, like a Simmons for left gaurd. And let Bell focus on tackle. Maybe he is Walkers replacement. If that was the case, think about those two young stud tackles. Draft one of the centers in the second or third. And pick up another later round gaurd for developement.And man you could have a good line for many years. You already have Butler at right gaurd. Just my thoughts.

To signing in Buffalo could actually start a precedent of some big names going to small markets. If TO comes in and plays good, the Bills make the playoffs, and he is beloved by the community, then this could change the way a lot of FA look at signing somewhere. It could be the start of 'big fish in a small pond' syndrome. I hope so. I am sick of seeing teams like Buffalo shut out because they dont have the bright lights or name like Dallas or New York. Just an observation.

I posted this last week. I think you are right on about him. Whitner can play FS. Its is definetly worth a look. Price has to be right. There was talk about him moving into a weakside LB role. Especially in nickel coverages.

The part about the interview that was kind of telling, was when Rosenhaus said Roscoe Parish was one of our good young recievers. Not sure he did a lot of homework on that one. Its always about the money. I think this is a win/win if the Bills make the playoffs and TO helps with that. So who cares about Rosenhaus.

My thought exactly lets_go_buffalo. I know its not exactly an area of pressing need for us. But K.O. just isn't panning out. And Scott is ok, but i think Williams is an upgrade. Whitner gets to play where he can exel. Our corners are good and deep. Just a thought but i would understand if the Bills wanted to focus on the D front seven and Oline/TE. It would be fun to watch Williams light up Welker.

Roy Williams was let go in Dallas. He is a SS. The Bills have hinted at maybe playing Whitner at FS so his coverage skills can be utilized more. Williams was a beast when the Cowboys played the 4-3 like Buffalo does now. However he has seen his production drop in the new 3-4 scheme of the Cowboys. I am not sure what his cost would be. However he is 28y/o. So he is not too old. He did have injuries last year, so the price might not be too crazy on him. This is a guy worth a phone call and a visit. If he and his agent are realistic about his worth.

The Bills dont over spend on FA. So no its not rocket science but negotiations. The players are looking for the best fit. Chances are if a guy signs on the spot then you probably over paid for him. He knows he isn't getting anything close to what you are offering him.

We all look at the Pats as a 'model' franchise. And what do they do when a db comes up for contract? They make him an offer but let him go if they believe it is to much. Three starting corner backs making starting cornerback money is to much for any team. We have no idea if the Bills are going to resign McGhee right now. But for this season we have McKelvin and McGhee as starters and some very competent nickel/backups. Who are the available FA DBs next year? Who knows what happens between now and then. I guess i would rather see the Bills focus on right now spending money where it is needed. OL and front seven on D

"So Russ you guys interested in T.O. ? I mean you guys were after Coles". Russ: " Well not really. But how much you guys looking for?" Rosenhaus: " Well a deal close to what he signed in Dallas, 3 years for $27 million, with 13 of that gauranteed". At that point Russ falls over. Sorry people it will never happen. He aint comming to Buffalo. I can't wait to read the thread of shock and awe when he signs somewhere else. And some people saying we could of had him for '9 million a year'. Some foolish team will pay him. The only way i would pay him any money is if it was a heavy incentive ladden deal. Based on his conduct, not performance. But even then it would be way to expensive for the Bills. Sorry guys and gals.

The whole chip on his shoulder thing is not a good way to describe T.O. When i think of a guy playing with a chip on his shoulder i think of Lawrence Taylor. A guy that played mean and hard. But was a leader. T.o couldn't lead a flag football team. He is a ME guy. Always has been and al;ways will be. He does everything for himself. You really want a guy on your team that does sit ups in his driveway in front of cameras. He has the suicide call incident a few years ago. Calling his QB gay in Frisco. Then crying in front of the camera about his QB in Dallas. There is no way to make this guy happy. Even when he is the number one guy on a good team he screwed it up in Philly. Then in Dallas he accuses Romo and Whitten of collusion. I am sorry but if you want this guy here, you are cut from the same clothe as Daniel Snyder. And we have all seen what that guy gets. Overpaid Vets on the downside of their career. Whose team backs into the playoffs and get bounced after one or two games. Keep T.O and his shananigans away from Buffalo, we have enough real problems.

He is a huge distraction where ever he has been. And what did he accomplish in Dallas? Some nice stats but no playoff win. He went to the Super Bowl once in Philly but even then you can make an arguement T.O wasn't the main reason. He missed the playoffs with an ankle injury. He is selfish, self centered, and loosing his talent year by year. The team that is kicking themselves right now is Cincy. They are exactly the kind of team that would have paid him. But now they are stuck with Coles and his overpaid salary.Hahaha.

The line is where you spend the money. Thats why i am glad we did not over pay for Greer. The Bills have more money to spend on the D front seven. And the OL/TE. We have enough corners. Heck we even got one named Corner!!!!!

Guys it no different then any other job situation. They want to see all the offers and meet with all the teams interested in their services. I am sick of hearing " We let him get out of town". What are we suppose to do? The Bills aren't Don Corleone and these guys arent band leaders. They are looking for the right fit for them and their families. Dont we want intelligent guys on our Team? Guys who make wise decisions? Would you not see all the people that are interested in you? Who knows. They may go to the next team meet with them and like it better. Or they may not, and call the Bills up and negotiate a deal. I like the fact the Bills are bringing in the type of guys they are. Solid guys who have shown good ability in the scheme we play. They are going to make one or two more good FA signings.

i dont know what is more sad. The fact that you are acting surprised Greer signed somewhere else. Or the fact that you dont see the logic the Bills used. McKelvin replaces Greer. Who btw took a couple of years to be a good player. We already saw glimpses of what McKelvin can be in his first year. It obviously is a debate on who was better between Greer and McGhee. See the other 20+ posts here. Simon you are a Moderator? Yet know so little about football. Thats what i find scarry. And sad. Greer went where he got a better deal. So far everyone here is upset when someone spends a million or two more on a guy then the Bills offer. If you spend a million or two more on every FA, then you wouldn't have money to resign guys you need. Sorry but i hope your spouse is in charge of the finances in your house. Otherwise guys like me will be footing the bill for your foreclosed house.

we already have our center. Hangartner.

Rotoworld reporting that Coles is getting close with the Bungholes. God i hope so.