atlbillsfan1975

Exactly. BB i have a feeling you started this thread for attention. You got it. As any guy here that ever played football at any level, pee wee, high school, college, or pro knows nothing is accomplished for real till the pads go on. Once you start putting the shoulder pads on, then the men go to the front and the boys to the back. Honestly do you know the difference between a football and a watermelon?

I am not exactly bitter towards Crowell, but i really did not like how he handled himself last year. And maybe the Bills Doctors knew he really needed the surgery he got, therefore put him on IR. Wow the Bills are not as dumb as people think. But that article does clear up wether or not he should/could have played at all last year. And if he is tenative, that does not sound good. Hope he has a good year for the Bucs, except for when the Bills play them.

I think you are exactly right. And i think that is also why the Bills went out and drafted the best pure rushing DE in the draft. Everyone in the AFC east knows you got to beat NE to win the division. The only way to do that is put Brady on his butt a bunch of times during a game. You let him get comfortable back there, with those recievers, and you are done. Bills realize they have to get more pressure on opponents. Then we as fans will really see how good our DBs look. I think Buffalo has potentially the best defensive backfield in the game. Given they dont have to cover guys for 5-6 seconds, they could really start to make some big plays. You are usually not going to score a lot of points on the Pats. They may give up the occasional 30 points here or there. But the real way to beat the Pats is pressure Brady and run the Ball.

For what its worth he sounded pretty decent in my opinion. The guy just got finished working out. And he had 5 microphones shoved in his face. How many of us out of shape middle aged guys would be able to speak after a rigorous work out? He actually put sentences together, and sounded fairly inteligent. Got to say i was expecting a lot worse from some of the comments on here. Now if he would just stay out of trouble, he would not only sound inteligent but would be inteligent.

Maybin will not be a starter this year. He will play some with Schobel. If Schobel stays healthy and Maybin plays good then you have two good players at DE. Denney and Kelsay are around as run stopping DE. The Giants proved a few years ago you cant have enough good DE in this league. Maybin could also play opposite Schobel in obvious passing downs this year. Could create a miss match for opposing teams. If Maybin developes and Schobel is healthy, like he claims.

How many 'Stars' does Pitts have? I mean seriously? Not trying to stir the pot. But outside the QB position the Steelers have a good solid team. Not many superstars at all. Just guys who know what they are suppose to do, and they are well coached. Great coaching w good/hardworking players is better then average coaching with great players.

If Jansen starts over Butler then the Bills really would be screwed. Butler will probably be the best Olineman on the team THIS year. With Woods developing while starting.

I like what you said overall about the Bills players. But unless they get a pass rush going in front of them, no corner looks good after 4-5 seconds. I also think Byrd will be defensive rookie of the year.

If what you are saying is right(about being bumped). And i do not doubt it. Then you have to run him in motion. That is the best way to neutralize bump coverage. Haveing said that i just dont see how he gets in much as wide reciever. Atleast not with this current recieving group. If Reed gets hurt, then maybe he can see the field some. He would be a nice weapon if used maybe 5-6 snaps a game. And have 2-3 balls thrown his way.

I think Butler at Rt will be very good. He has the size and agility. The one thing that hurt him last year was banging up his shoulder. The good thing about tackles is you use less shoulders and more arms/hands while protecting. Should be a good move and help him stay healthy.

Ding ding ding ding....we have a winner. Byrd would definetly not have been there. And i will go out on a limb and say i think he will make the biggest impact the quickest. Starter by the end of preseason. I have a friend who is a scout for a team. He told me that Byrd will be a player. He scouted him and the team he works for took a safety later on in the same round. If you listened to a lot of scouts, this years O tackle class was overrated. A lot of teams reached on tackles this year. Oher has a lot of questions. His own coaches said he was a 50/50 bust to good player.

I am with ya. I have no idea who Pisa is going to sign with. But to tell me Chicago is going to have an awesome O all of a sudden is just foolish. Lovie is as conservative as they come. And the Bears have never ever been an passing team. D first, run second, and then pass.

You missed the point of his initial statement. he said what if the Oline comes together, Dline puts pressure and the team as a whole plays good. Evans 'sucked last year. He was solid just like every year. Buffalo has players that have potential and have shown flashes of being good to great players. Evans Lynch Stroud Schobel Edwards Whitner McKelvin Owens McGhee On the Oline i would say Butler, Hangartner, and Walker have proved they can play good. The change in positions is a question for sure. Woods and Levitre displayed the mindset and skill in college, that needs to transition to the pros. Byrd will have to most noticiable and immediate impact this year of any the rookies. Maybin is a 50/50 guy. He could turn into the next great pass rusher for the Bills or he could bust out in 3 years. Huge risk but huge possible reward. I dont see him giving more then a couple of sacks this year. If the Oline and Dline produce and perform well then this team can win 10 games. Probably second in East and host a wildcard game. Injuries will tell the true story, because besides Dbs Buffalo has a big drop off in talent in depth players.

And i wonder what Illinois state taxes are compared to NY? Steve you are still a D bag.

Buffalo has 'affluent parts'? Just Kidding. So what. He just got paid 6.5 million dollars for one year. He has no way of knowing what will happen after this season. Sounds like a smart move to me. He lives here in Atlanta fulltime anyways. He always has. Even when he played in Philly and Dallas, he always has called the ATL his home. That famous clip of him doing crunches in his driveway was from his Atlanta home. I would not read to much into it.

So you are telling me a guy that never had any true QB intelligence. And by that i mean he could not tell a zone defense from a man to man one. Is all of a sudden going to know how to do that? After being away from the league for two years??? Riiiiigghhhhttt. A guy that time and time again put the ball all over the place, makeing his recievers look terrible when it really was his fault. Look what Matt Ryan did this year with pretty much those same recievers. Ryan was a rookie btw. Vick never ever was a qb. He was a guy that was really fast and had a big arm. Thats it. He is dumb as a box of rocks. He proved that on and off the field. Sorry bud but i know a lot about footbal. And Vick will be slower then he was, and not because of him being out of shape, but he is older. Speed was the only real weapon Vick had. He might look good for a game or two but that will fade quickly. So you bring him in and at what cost? Losing maybe 15% of your fan base. No my friend you are the ignorant one. Go back to Madden football 2006 and play Vick there. In real life he is done. Book it!

I dont really know much about Fitz i will be honest, but i do know a lot about Vick. He could not read a pro defense. And is not as fast as he use to be. By any means. And he has been away from the league for two years. Add that to the convicted felon stuff, and i am sorry but i would take JP bac....ok i would not go that far. I would rather Hamden play then.

And why do you think that is?? I was just thinking about that. He is argueably the greatest player of this generation. Yet never been on the most popular football game of the last 15 years? Think maybe he is suspicious?? The whole Madden cover curse?? Oh and btw, i have not played that game in probably 12 years or so since i was in college. I could not even probably turn the game on. Just think its an interesting/paranoid question.

I have watched Vick play his entire career here in Atlanta. And for awhile from 2002-2005 i do not think there was a faster/talented guy on the field. He started to show chinks in the armor before the whole dog fighting thing. He has never and i repeat never been good at reading a defense at all. He always got around that because he would just take off and out run the defense. He could get around the corner and pick up 7-8 yds before a db could force him out. He has lost a step. Due to the beating every player takes, and he will turn 30 i think this year. He never learned how to put touch on the ball. He has a cannon for an arm but he throws it 100 miles an hour to a reciever that is 5 yds down field. To me personally he makes sense in a 'wildcat'. But cordinators will scheme for that and it will not work for very long. Think about it, why do no teams run the option in the pros, or really college anymore? Answer : players are to fast and coaches figured out how to beat it. I will take Fitz over Vick for a lot of reasons. Least of which are because i personally dont think he has a lot to offer as far as play goes.

All of this crap about Buffalo signing Vick, solely steams from Buffalo signing Owens. The only problem is Owens has never once been in trouble with the law. Much less a convicted felon. These reporters think that Buffalo will 'due a deal with the devil' to win. I just dont buy it. When you look at the Owens signing it was a shrewd move for the Bills for many reasons. That could not be said for signing Vick. You would in essence alienate a large portion of your fan base. Any dog owner/animal lover will not accept him. And you would possibly be starting another QB contraversy. How many of those have the Bills had in the last 10 years???

I hear ya about this line. There are lots of unknowns for sure. Last year we thought the Oline was going to be one of the strengths( except the center position). But it did not turn out that way. Now for one reason or the other, the Bills have an entirely new Oline. They drafted guys that should be fixtures for years. Had some good talent they moved to another position. I know it is a lot of what ifs, but i would rather that then bring back the same group as last year. It is going to take some time for them to all get together, but by mid season(barring injuries) i really think this Oline could start to become something special. And then going into next year may start to have the foundation in place for a winning franchise. The Dline is one Dt away and Maybin producing from being very strong. Maybe McCargo is healthy this year, and with the new Dline coach gets some confidence. Oh yeah and it being a contract year does not hurt. He has to know that if he doesn't show up this year, he will probably be out of the league. I like 8 wins with an outside shot at 10. 10 if key guys stay healthy. And the 'what ifs' produce. Stay Positive my friends. We are all undeafted for now.

I live in Atlanta. Atlanta hosted the 1993 Bills vs Cowboys Then again in 1999 the Rams vs Titans. In 99 Atlanta had a freak ice storm. Shut down the entire city the weekend of the SB. They have not been back since. I know they have had the Super Bowl in Detroit and Minn. But i wonder if that is more or less a way to throw the economy up there a bone. Weather plays a huge roll in the selection. As well as what the city has to offer people from out of town. We all know Buffalo suffers in both those areas in Jan/Feb. Not to mention, what happens if you have a freak blizzard and no planes can get in or out for a couple days before or after the game? If Buffalo built the nicest dome in the league. I dont think you would ever see the SB there. I wish, but it aint gonna happen.

Actually we do have a way of knowing. Where he signs and for how much will tell everything.

Growing up a Bills fan i always like dthe progame better then college. But as i get older i like the college game way better overall. I mean i can sit down and watch the Thursday night game on ESPN and really get into it, with neither team being 'my team'. Now i cant do that watching Cincy versus Cleveland on a Sunday afternoon, or Monday night game. College is great. Where else can you get a Oregon State, who got beat by PSU by like 40, go out and shock a USC. The tailgateing at a College football game especially in the south is ridiculious. I went a couple of years in a row to the UGA vs Fla game in Jax. Best looking women and most fun you will ever have. In the south college football is crazy. Its like how Buffalo feels about the Bills but worse.

Look, I do not like Parcells anymore then the next guy. But he eats Marvs luch everyday of the week when it comes to gameday coaching. He kept that game close, he had Jeff Hoestetler as his starting QB. If Simms is in there you think maybe the 48 y/o FG would have even mattered? I have always thought that 'nine out of ten times thing' myself. But who is to say Parcells would not have changed his coaching and strategy. We need to face it and move on. The Bills on paper had way better talent, Giants had better coaching. That game proves something: give me a great coach with average talent, and it will beat great talent with an average coach every dang Sunday.