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If we had known any of this from our vantage in the stands, I think some people would have heart attacks. Legitimately. It was bonkers enough as is.

Not sure what you're seeing, what was his stat line last year?

I am 100% convinced Hamilton got some of that ball. And if it was with the hand with the broken finger that they buddy-taped earlier, I cannot help but wonder if that mattered.

They had one replay with the center Linderbaum pulling, jumping over DT and then blocking a LB. When their OL is getting to the second level untouched, that doesn’t speak volumes about our DL. Happened a couple of times.

I mean, Oliver ripped the ball away from the ideal, prototype, game-icing RB in the 4th quarter. So...

I still think Lamar isn't an elite passer of the football. I'd take Josh Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, or even Herbert over him in a situation where you are down multiple scores and need to pass yourself out of it. Jackson is an elite QB, but he doesn't have the elite passing ability. Not that he is bad. He isn't. He's a good passser. He just isn't at the level of those other guys. As a total package, he is really special, though.

Is he who let that rusher in from the left side? We're seriously fortunate it wasn't blocked. It was essentially a free rusher, and he knew it too. He should have blocked it.

He was insanely close

Bill Belichick f*d up big time by not drafting him.(Lamar Jackson)

Playoffs is where it matters That's what I am saying. Great QBs show up in January.

I stand by my Rory McIlroy is a fraud stance!! Honestly, I am looking forward to listening to the talking heads tomorrow to see how they frame the narrative about this game. I don't want to hear excuses for why the Ravens didn't win, I want to hear praise for how Josh Allen and the Bills willed themselves to a victory. Go Bills!!!!!!!

they have maybe the best personnel in the history of the league to close out a double digit lead in the 4th quarter. They don't even have to put a wr on the field and they can still run the ball effectively into an 8 or 9 man box. They are like the redskins with riggins or dallas with Emmitt. Get a lead late and the game should be over. For some reason they kept throwing the ball!

I didn't realize in real time how close a Raven was to blocking that kick at the end. He knew it, too - he put his head in his hands right after he just missed it. Whew. What a game.

Proud of you. (Proud of both of us.)

We won this game by 0.1 seconds. That field goal to end the 1st half made all the difference.

Lamars stats today were 14/19 209 yards and 2 TDs Josh Allens stats were 16/21 for 251 yds, 1 TD - In the 4Q alone Any questions?

It really became a thing last year w/ both fanbases because or the MVP race. It's silly, imo. Both guys are simply amazing. I don't think fans of either team would trade their guy for the other.

Lamar's answer: https://x.com/SportsCenter/status/1964905002918424637

Not me. Team loves him. Coaches, players, everyone. It’s not an accident that he was the only other player besides Josh who got voted as a captain.

figured someone started a thread already, but the arrival of Coleman is upon us.

It’s gonna be hotly debated im sure but I think not challenging the spot on that slide saved the game. Clearly wasn’t a great call but I really don’t think they would’ve overturned the call on the field. It would’ve gotten bogged down in the whole ‘how do you define the start of a slide’ type stuff and I think they would’ve just left the call unchanged we also did something probably even more difficult than 13 seconds against them before halftime because of good timeout management/preparation but it’s getting lost in all the craziness haha

And conversely he was fast and aggressive with them late in the first half when Baltimore had the ball and it ended up getting us 3 points we wouldn't have otherwise.

Yes you are correct. Most on here do. I know since I been on here every year there's seems to be at least one "Lamar Jackson really isn't good" thread. He is elite, not ignoring his playoff performances, but not holding them against him for the moment either.

He needs a bounce back year if we're being honest. Week 1 and the Ravens so I'll withhold judgement. Season before last he was often the best player on the defensive side of the ball.

Also historically, outside of a bake oven we've beaten them - but it's not like they've been run out of the stadium, they've hung in their and played us very tough