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My main concern is that no one at One Bills Drive seems to understand how bad that Miami loss was. It is business as usual this week. Someone should have been fired (Joe Brady), and there should be public anger from coaches and players. Josh moped after the game. That's not what anyone wants to see. Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would have spit fire from the podium. It was not just a loss. It was a team that got exposed and embarrassed, and they don't seem to care about it. If they lose this week, the wheels will come off.

Why is he happy his bro is gone? Gone from where?

This being the week everyone seems to have had their last straw with Coleman is just really odd to me. He hasn't developed as much as people wanted and I think the front office did him no favors just throwing him out there as our X with zero competition for snaps, but this was probably the best game of his career so far. If Josh had just gotten the ball to him, we probably win that game and are celebrating a breakout performance from Coleman. It's not even an exaggeration to say a normal Josh performance probably results in Coleman having over 150 yards and at least 3 TDs this past week. Instead, Josh continued to struggle with his ball placement and continued to just be out of sync, missing reads, etc., and Coleman's performance was wasted. It's fair to argue that having a big game against a terrible secondary still isn't impressive, but we've been begging for someone to threaten the defense down the field all year and Coleman was able to beat Miami deep several times and Josh just couldn't make the throws for whatever reason.

Tyreek Hill chimes in:

Well, let’s be fair enough to pass the straight face test….he left because he became a HC. People hate on our OC’s, and then they either become a HC or we are expecting them to be a HC very soon. Are teams stupid enough to hire a new HC simply because he had Josh Allen as QB when they were an OC? Or might there be more to it. Hint: There is always more to it.

Most teams with a franchise QB are carrying that dead money and they get the ability to restructure each off season to open 20-50 mil. If your lucky and hit big time on your picks you can really weaponize your space more which is why the drafting well is so important if you have a QB. The flipside is once your team has your QB go and it is reset time the cap pain is real for a year or team ala the Saints currently.

How do you know with certainty how much Allen was or wasn't involved? You speak as in you were at the meetings.

Seahawks OC Klint Kubiak has done a very good job working with Sam Darnold who has 2,262 yards passing with 17 TDs and 6 INTs so far this season.

Have you read this board? Did you read the BN article linked on the front page? Everyone had declared that the Bills are no longer Super Bowl contenders after one football game. It was that bad. You have posters on this board in another thread predicting an 8-9 final record. If you are not panicking, then you are in the vast minority of Bills fans. Most of us see the start of another decades-long Pats dynasty. They have the QB, the cap space, the coaching, and an owner who is content with nothing less than winning the Super Bowl every year. We have an aging QB who seems disinterested (I'm more than just a football player), a mediocre coach, no cap space, and an owner who wants to sell tickets above all else. You also have the spector of losing multiple home games to Toronto. So yeah, this is a 5-alarm fire. Yeah, it's just football. I get that. But the Bills are a big part of my life, and they are the only attachment that I have left to my hometown. So they mean a lot to me and seeing the window slam shut, probably for the rest of my life (I'm 51 and won't survive another drought) is painful. The word disappointment doesn't even begin to describe it. And no one who could do something seems to care. The owner is only concerned with selling PSL to the 6 homes games he'll play in his new stadium that we paid for and the GM is more concerned with never falling below .500 than winning a SB. And no one, from the owner down to the players, understands how much it hurts all of us to see that team rise. I f it were the Jets of Fins, I wouldn't care. But the Pats? Close your eyes and picture Diggs holding the Lombardi above his head this February. That's not a fantasy, it's a preview because they are BY FAR the best team in the league right now. Why do those Massholes get to win AGAIN!!!!! They always get to win. In all sports. Buffalo gets one team that gets close every decade or so, but never gets it done. It really sucks.

I think this is pretty fair to be honest. There's diminishing returns in replacing your best WR vs. addressing your weaker WRs. The issue is in retrospect, McConkey is undoubtedly an upgrade and that's better than what we've gotten from Coleman, and also, McConkey probably would have fared fine as our Z. My issue with Shakir is he's never been particularly good at separating against man coverage, and doing that from the slot is the easiest role in the offense so if he struggles with that, it makes things more difficult for everyone. Great YAC dude though and has generally done a good job of finding holes in zones.

Remove millions of illegals, and property values drop precipitously... Problem solved...

Does it matter if Josh wanted/liked Coleman? He's bad

Might as well trade Allen, and see if Edwards will come back for veteran minimum. 🤔😇

From what I can tell, Beane and staff narrowed it down to the few WRs they liked first and foremost, and then casually asked Allen for any input on who he may like or prefer.

A genius gambit by the Democratic leadership... I hope to see more of this genius in the near future...

To me, Shakir is a hard one to judge. How can he do anything when he's not even running routes downfield? My question is how players like Terrel Bernard and Taylor Rapp became huge liabilities. Where has Greg Rousseau been all season? What happened to Christian Benford and Taron Johnson?

Here's a Google Gemni Deep-research report put through NotebookLM's audio overview (i.e., a short podcast format audio file talking about 2026 cap moves): https://screenapp.io/app/#/library/69134facfd6e054059c515e7/recents/24825780-b755-4af3-91ea-f4b1bb797918 (not 100% perfect, for example they talk about cutting Edwards which I'm not sure about, but for 5 minutes of work this is pretty good)

Did you actually read those sources? My point has been that Allen did not push Bean to draft Coleman. At most Allen approved of the decision and then welcomed Coleman to the Bills. There is nothing in those sources indicating anything more then this.

We don't need the next Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, Ben Johnson, etc. All we need is a normal offensive coordinator with a normal system, who just understands the basics of NFL football. Someone who understands both the pass game and run game are important. Someone who understands how to design passing concepts for all levels of the field. Someone who understands how to use the skills of the players on the roster. Someone who understands how to watch game film and prepare for an opponent's tendencies. Someone who understands how to attack and adjust to simple defensive schemes during a game. It's just baffling to me that three years ago, we had an OC who didn't know how to design a simple screen pass. Now we have a guy who can't design anything but screen passes (to everyone but the running back). We used to have a guy who had every WR running deep outs and crossers on every play, never giving the QB legitimate underneath options. Now half of our passes are caught at the line of scrimmage, and converting anything 6 yards downfield seems difficult. It's just baffling to me that we sign Curtis Samuel to a big contract, and our OC basically uses him like Isaiah McKenzie. We sign an Khalil Shakir to an extension, and the OC doesn't seem to have anything in the playbook for him deeper than five yards. And for some reason, he keeps thinking end-around plays work... even though they net about 4 yards max, and go backwards more than half the time. I think we have a special end-around designed for every WR and TE on the roster. It's just baffling to me that we go into games against teams that blitz all the time, and are unprepared for the blitz. We don't seem to adjust our gameplans to the strengths and weaknesses of an opponent, and often try attacking the opposite. It doesn't even seem to matter who we are playing against. We just do what we do, and hope it works. Most of all, it's just baffling to me that we are the only team in the NFL who has Josh Allen... possibly the best QB in the NFL, and one of the most physically gifted QBs in NFL history... and our staff has decided the best plan of attack is to surround him with Tight Ends and blocking WRs, become the highest rushing percentage team in the league and make almost all of his throws check-downs.

Not a big deal. Just like porn in your 6th graders library or the top surgery your daughters 13 year old second cousin had done. These aren't major cultural red flags, they're just other people's problems. - teef

I mean, there are plenty of posts all over the socials showing him half-assing it down the field. So it's pretty much undeniable. Then McD didnt stick up for him at all, and instead said it's "fair to ask". That is about as under-the-bus as it gets with McD. Josh's dead pan response of "he got one", paired with all the film of Josh not even looking his way when he was in single man coverage is about as bad as it gets out of our QB as well.

Gig is up for Brady he had been figured out Josh is on the pocket for 4 seconds when he drops back watch his head he is looking at 4 places no one is open the only thing downfield is when he is running for his life and coverage breaks down. If we had the Bengals OL we would be 2 and 7 our WR situation is unacceptable... not as bad as our Run Defense situation which is biblically bad but pretty bad.

The head coach said it’s “fair to ask” whether Coleman is trying on the field. That’s pretty damning. Nothing to do with being a whipping boy.

This is going to be one hell of a 30 for 30. The Season Saved by a Hardman. "How a PS player who couldn't hold a job anywhere saves the Buffalo Bills season not by producing numbers - just simply having a deep ball or two thrown his way just to spread the defense a little. The man who caught 7 balls all season helped bring the Lombardi to Buffalo."

If the Pats beat the Chiefs in the playoffs this year, I'm dropping a zubaz colored toaster in my bathtub.