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I don't ignore the second part of that, you just omitted to quote it in your reply. The 2015 team was stacked. McDermott wins 10 or 11 games with that roster.

Regardless of SB wins McD is currently a top 10 coach. A SB appearance gets him in the top 5%. A SB win puts him in the hall of fame. Bills fans will never be fully happy without the SB win. Me included. But we all know, that if we win the SB this year, at the moment McD and Allen are hosting up the Lombardi; the negative Nancy's on here will say the need to again win next year or it means nothing!

Worst part of this, imo, is that this will create waves of actual Democrat voters moving South. Moderate Dems, but still Dems nonetheless. The big misconception is that New Yorkers moving to places like Florida, Georgia, the Carolinas, Tennessee etc., are “bringing their politics with them”. Thats true.. just not in the sense many believe. Not all, but most of these former New Yorkers, myself included, are right leaning and vote right leaning in our new southern states. Raleigh might be an outlier, as it’s a lot of University & Research transplants. But Charlotte, Greenville, Charleston, Atlanta metro, especially Florida.. have all remained unchanged or gotten redder since the start of North to South mass migration. With a guy like Mamdami, he will start the flight of moderate Dems. These people will move south and vote Democrat.. especially since southern Dems tend to be more moderate than northern Dems. Therefore palatable to people who fled a socialist but still want to live under a Roy Cooper type or virtue signal vote for a Stacey Abrams.

Stefanski flat out sucks, Campbell is pretty similar to McDermott but with a shorter tenure, and Jim Harbaugh is a cheater. Hard to argue with the rest though due to Super Bowl stats.

Big Balls will now be 50% time committed to analysis of commie shlit posting here at PPP.

I was going to pick the same guy. If Bishop is a bust I could see Hancock making a push to start at Safety. At a minimum would love to see him outplay Cam Lewis and be the third safety. Good choice! Once the pads come on he is guaranteed to get in a fight with someone!

I think the new TE Hawes will be the star of camp

Yeah, exactly. And as I said before, I don’t hold anything against McD for 2017. He did a fine job. I just don’t give him huge kudos for going 9-7 against an absolutely awful schedule and falling ass-backward into the playoffs.

My limited experience with Finns agrees. Although my somewhat greater experience with Swedes agrees too!

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greetings PPP. You KNOW Im going to cut to the chase in regards to questions I have. Opening to discussion 1. How can the USA prove the raw materials needed for nuclear weapons are destroyed. It's a yes, no answer I hope for. Maybe destroyed leaves conjecture 2. How will we know if this effort results in a regime change or Not. hmmm. General answers are okay. I know Noone down here is Yahweh 3. How long will this story be front and center due to actions of our government . Wether you support the bombing or support it with caveats or flat up didn't approve of it happening at all. to the 3rd I say as long as there is a middle east there will be DRAMA. And this thread could easily goo beyond 100 pages. that's what I think and hope to learn from interested parties today thanks m

I'm looking forward to Kincaid having a bounce back year and becoming the first Buffalo Bill TE in franchise history to get voted into the ProBowl.

New Yorkers are an annoying breed. They seem to believe that they cannot live anywhere else even though they constantly complain about the quality of life in New York. They should be able to afford to buy a nice rowhouse in Brooklyn or afford a relatively spacious apartment in Manhattan while working in poorly paid creative fields like "design" or something related to the arts and theater. And so they vote for anyone who sells them the pipe dream that NYC can become, at once, nicer and more affordable for them to pursue the creative lives they choose. And so NYC will become, at once, less nice and less affordable and they will move somewhere else.

This time of year there's always some kid who comes out of nowhere to be the camp/preseason star. This year feels like most positions are deep so it might be tough to make a name but I'll go Hancock from OSU as the guy who ends up contributing early. Thought this would make a good slow day thread

Shane Conlan had tiny stick legs and was drafted to play OLB before Biscuit arrived.

It was a 4pm game wasn’t it? 12 years old and parents made me go collect paper route money for Olean Times Herald. I remember watching that play through screen door of one of patrons on the route. Pretty sure I got a good tip after Kelly went in. the back pedal drop back is something. Go Bills.

You and I have had this conversation before. We disagree greatly. You value the players on that team wayyyyy more than I do And that’s ignoring the fact that McD is the reason those players were gone in the first place.

Feel like this is 90% of McDs resume.

Consequences for "everyone"

I think Jim Harbaugh is a very good coach. He took the 49ers to the Super Bowl. He won a national championship at Michigan. In his first year as the Chargers HC, he made the playoffs. He wins wherever he goes.

Not really. i think @Buffalo716 is over the top with his McD praise, but I do believe him and Beane do deserve credit for identifying and developing Allen. As well as overhauling the Bills losing culture. Now maybe if Payton is here in 2017, we feel comfortable drafting Mahomes and the Chiefs miss out on him, but the fact of the matter is if Payton was fired, he wouldn’t have ever considered Buffalo as a destination in 2017. And that’s kinda the problem I see with McD, largely. He deserves credit for Allen and the Bills turnaround. But what we need in 2025 and what we needed in 2017 are very different and that’s why I don’t think he’s too good to fire. If Payton was coach in 2020 to now, do I think we would’ve done better? Absolutely. But I wasn’t ready to fire McD then and can’t really hold that against anyone.

…..and continuing from above with my being in a Gotham funk, Australian style:

YouTube must be pushing the same thing to all of us. It popped up on my suggestions yesterday too. I forgot the drive started with a Marino INT by Odomes. The Kelly dive for a TD, is still a top 10 franchise play in my list.