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You might be spot on with Allen losing a little bit of his foot speed. That makes it more imperative to surround him with elite pass catchers to take advantage of his arm strength. If they can’t turn it around this season it’d be such a wasted opportunity. AFC is so wide open right now.

The team is almost certainly doing this right now. You can tell that Allen has been told not to take off running. I get it to some degree (he did hurt himself immediately last season running the ball), but I also agree with you that you can't just assume you'll end up with a favorable playoff seeding.

If we feed Keon nothing but McDonald's for a month...could he help out at DT? Hear me out.

I also suspect that this a result of the steady transition of the Bills offense to a road grading run first structure. The goal is to have the best run blocking line in the NFL which by definition will result in a loss of pass pro effectiveness.

Would you rather we do nothing at all? I can get being upset that we couldn't get anything done with the Trade Deadline. And I can definitely understand being upset with what he's done overall to get Josh help. But the Deadline has passed. What's done is done. All we can do is bring in who's out there. And Hardman is about the best we can do. Again, it's something like this or doing nothing at all. I can't understand being annoyed by trying whatever we can at this point.

Every single point you tried to make when you used the word NEVER was factually wrong. Every. Single. One.

I think ANYTHING to change the WR room is great news.

I do like the 13 , 12 , 22 looks but they should be a minority in our offense, we really have no identity with a unicorn at QB , it's disgusting, get an established OC in here for ***** sake

Put me in the camp that 1) he was drafted too high and 2) he's being asked to do something that isn't his strength. I don't think he's a bad player. I think the expectations of him are too high based on his draft position and I think he's being misused.

I could buy into this. But that's a far cry from Allen wanting Coleman or that he exerted pressure to draft him.

Another great pick by BB. This franchise is pathetic.

He bailed on a clean pocket at 1.5 seconds

But we will do it on 4th & 1 to fool the other team.

Not saying the scouts didn’t vet Coleman. More saying the scouts may have ranked a few guys as early second rounders. And then considered Josh’s opinions before deciding Keon would be the pick.

Mecole agreed to the 1st round draft pick in 2027. Beane the negotiator got the deal done!!

I think as well, now more than ever, teams are just taking the right side of the field away for him to escape. We saw that escalating more after his first few years and then I thought he learned to manage it, but at this point it almost looks like he is getting trapped. His natural instincts are working against him in that regard. Rushes seem better contained in addition to the lost a step comments. Which were mocked a bit here prior, but yes. He looks a bit slower. Now way around it. Look at Shakir on the top left here. It's six if Josh can see it. I agree that the bulk of the issue is WR separation, but Josh at times also isn't picking up the hot read fast enough.

Do you think, if the oddsmakers believed he WOULDN’T get a job, they’d have his odds higher or lower? I think it’s already pretty much set that he’s going to be a HC regardless of what happens the rest of the year. There will be a dozen or so jobs between the power 4 and the NFL. With the exception of Lane Kiffin, Brady is probably the likeliest person to nab one of those jobs. If Kiffin takes one, that opens another job. It’s just math.

I have an idea for who comes after McD/Bean and I suspect people won't like it: How about Robert Salah as HC and Daboll as OC? The Jets had great defenses when Salah was head coach. His primary responsibility would be to fix the Bills D while DaBoll would be given cart blanche to run the offense. The Bills would go back to letting Allen be Allen and design their offense and structure their roster accordingly. Salah would love coaching a team with a real QB and sane owner while the chance to get back at the Jets twice per year would be very appealing. Both Salah & DaBoll are available this off season and I suspect they both would jump at the chance.

💯💯💯 And these were all passing plays, I'm done with Keon as of today and I'm always super optimistic

Ya that just shows me that this kid will never get it. He has been benched twice in a year and a half and was benched in that GAME.. And he still comes out like this in the biggest play of that game and dogs it? Put him on the bench for the rest of the season and just cut your losses with him after this year

Hardman is only 27 years old. Seems like he should be 30 or older. I wonder if he’s related to Tremaine Edmunds, who is currently only 16 years old.

Being a regular season loss, especially one that doesn’t individually derail the Bills from the playoffs, this can’t be viewed as McDermott’s worst defeat. However, we may look back and see this as a day of reckoning. - The Bills have a pattern of stumbling mid season, then pulling it together after the bye. We have passed the bye, and yesterday looked completely lost. - Josh also has a pattern of gaining effectiveness and aggressiveness in November. As of November 10, this season’s gain has not yet begun - again, he looked completely lost. For the first time in six years, it is hard for me to see where the Bills are either growing or maintaining. I am as optimistic a fan as you’ll find and I hope like hell that I’m wrong. But, the Bills are showing no answers and yesterday may mark the beginning of the decline.

Maybe they can bring him back… as Bill Belichick’s OC.

3 things: - Amari Cooper - Mack Hollins - Not this version of Keon Coleman You might laugh and say "Amari Cooper barely brought us anything and was only on the field like a third of the time". But he was on the field for obvious passing downs. And what he did was draw the top coverage his way and away from lesser options. Which is in part what made Coleman a better version than this year. A large part of bringing in Cooper in to me was to get Coleman away from teams top coverage. This is part of the problem with him this year. He's generally matched up against the best Corner a team has. Which completely neutralizes him. On top of that, there was less film on him. I think the league has the complete book on him now. This is why you see a lot of players get a "sophomore slump". They've got a year of film to analyze who they are and how to neutralize them. And on top of *that*, I think his attitude is worse than last season. He doesn't seem to put in the effort or be as locked in as last season. I don't know if he's discouraged by his poor play, what people are saying about him, his relationships in the building - I don't know. But his mental isn't good like it was last season. It might be in part not having Mack Hollins with him. I think Mack was a good leader for that room. Bringing enthusiasm and spirit that uplifted guys and is lacking from our room this year. And while I think he was limited and agreed that we should try and upgrade from him from a talent standpoint - he was getting open better than most of the core we have now. Hindsight is 50/50. Last season we were in better shape than we are now bc of those things. But last season, we still didn't have enough to take us to the next level. There were times like those games you mentioned when things worked perfectly. But in the Playoffs, we rode on the back of James Cook and when we needed a strong passing game to get past the Chiefs - it wasn't enough. This season, we're even worse. We're nowhere.

Yeah, he’s not seeing the field very well this year. Wonder what the issue is. He could’ve just thrown the ball a little short to that dude wide open on the left side.