Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Think about this for a second, kind of a scary thought... Most of everyone can agree that Trent has been holding this offense back (along with JP when he was here) going back to the middle of last season. Not that DJ has been any good himself, but its pretty obvious with better QB play last year and this year look very different. If Fitz comes in and plays well enough to win a couple games before Trent comes back, it is quite possible Fitz may remain the starter (assuming he does play well which is still yet to be known), especially given how many jobs are on the line. So if we start winning some games with say average play by Fitz and finish strong, could that be enough for Ralph to rationalize that with a real QB he could win with DJ and then go after a QB via FA or Draft and keep DJ one more year? I really hope and pray this doesnt happen with all the incredible talent of HC's available, but given DJ is under contract for 3 years I could this happening... I am pretty sure Ralph wont fire DJ mid season (or he would have already) unless he does it on the bye week. So, more than likely DJ will have the rest of the season. We have been close in many of our losses going back to last year despite poor play by the QB, so its not unrealistic to think we could finish 8-8 or 9-7 with average to solid play by Fitz (which who knows if he is even capable of it yet). So, could it be a double edge sword to root for Fitz to do well as it could lead to another season of DJ when all this coaching talent is out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't understand this. Would you guys get mad if we went 10-6 with Jauron or would you rather have us have another losing season so Jauron is fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't understand this. Would you guys get mad if we went 10-6 with Jauron or would you rather have us have another losing season so Jauron is fired. I think there are many here who would love to win the SB with Jauron just as long as he got run over by a bus on the following Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't understand this. Would you guys get mad if we went 10-6 with Jauron or would you rather have us have another losing season so Jauron is fired. hahaha you can not be serious. Juaron? 10 wins? please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Fitzpatrick...let's get off hsi jock...he's Fitzpatrick, not Manning. He's not saving anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conch Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Yeah, like Jauron will inspire this team into thinking it cal win ten games. just like he inspired them in the NO game by not going for a 4th and 1 two score down and 7 minutes to go. Real inspirational guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't understand this. Would you guys get mad if we went 10-6 with Jauron or would you rather have us have another losing season so Jauron is fired. Yes, I would be mad because I know he could not back it up with another winning season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRW Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Well, the good news is you don't have to worry about it. Fitzpatrick is not leading this team to enough wins to turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Think about this for a second, kind of a scary thought... Most of everyone can agree that Trent has been holding this offense back (along with JP when he was here) going back to the middle of last season. Not that DJ has been any good himself, but its pretty obvious with better QB play last year and this year look very different. If Fitz comes in and plays well enough to win a couple games before Trent comes back, it is quite possible Fitz may remain the starter (assuming he does play well which is still yet to be known), especially given how many jobs are on the line. So if we start winning some games with say average play by Fitz and finish strong, could that be enough for Ralph to rationalize that with a real QB he could win with DJ and then go after a QB via FA or Draft and keep DJ one more year? I really hope and pray this doesnt happen with all the incredible talent of HC's available, but given DJ is under contract for 3 years I could this happening... I am pretty sure Ralph wont fire DJ mid season (or he would have already) unless he does it on the bye week. So, more than likely DJ will have the rest of the season. We have been close in many of our losses going back to last year despite poor play by the QB, so its not unrealistic to think we could finish 8-8 or 9-7 with average to solid play by Fitz (which who knows if he is even capable of it yet). So, could it be a double edge sword to root for Fitz to do well as it could lead to another season of DJ when all this coaching talent is out there? Noodle Arm Fitz couldn't save himself if he was fallling in the toilet. You are getting too excited, he didn't play that well sunday. If you have been watching any of the games, Edwards is only one part of the problem holding the offense back. The line has been the worse in the NFL, play calling has been pathetic, Owens drops more balls than he catches, and I could go on and on. You think we have been bad, rely on Fitzpatrick and it will only get worse. He is a serviceable backup-at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 You've gotta be kidding me right? We are talking about the QB who came in and went 10-25 for 116 yards with one TD and one INT, right? The same inaccurate QB, who was less than average with Ochocinco and Housh last year right? Somehow this is the QB that is going to get DJ to 9-7, as you stated (possibly 9-7) while taking this god awful team we have to a 7-3 record the rest of the way. It's amazing that fans are so shortsighted. They kind of remind you of the ESPN poll that flucuates every time the Bills either win or lose a game. I watched a game Sunday, where the Jets were so absolutely bad at QB, that they tried numerous times to give us a win, yet, we failed to grab the reigns until the Jets finally rolled over and died. It had almost nothing to do with anything the Bills did on offense or defense. Then we have our fearless 1-4 head coach who plays it conservative AGAIN by setting up Lindell for a long FG with swirling winds to win the game, and he missed again, just like vs. Cleveland last year. Seriously, what does it take to break some of you? This team sucks. This coaching staff sucks. Period. They are one of the worst teams in the league, clearly. And yet, Fitzgerald, who was allowed to leave the Bengals, despite Carson Palmer coming back from a major injury will lead us to a respectable season? I bet we get steamrolled this week. The Panthers will run all over us, and Steve Smith made a statement and will most likely have a huge game. My goals have changed. I hope the kids on the O-line keep improving and gain much needed experience. I also hope our head coach continues to make himself look like an idiot so that he will be gone for sure, at the end of the year, if not sooner. Focus people. Our team is awful. It's way deeper than QB. Way deeper. Fitz is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 There, all fixed. (you thinking is a scary thought) There you go again flip flopping...the other day you said it was Trent and called for Fitz...now its DJ... And I love how you say me thinking is scary when I was right on everything you called me retarted on...you thinking is scary, just read your quote in my signature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 First off, let me say I NEVER said Fitz was any good, the jury is still out whether he can be a solid QB or not. Second, in almost EVERY loss going back to last year, we were close and in postion to still win late in the game despite poor QB play in the majority of them. So, given our level of competiveness while dealing with ineptness from Trent and JP, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that even if Fitz is average we could end up winning some ball games. Make no mistake, I have little faith in Fitz and dont see him as our starting QB, but with all these weapons he could end up doing ok. All I am saying is WHAT IF Fitz ends up being average or solid (he has won the last 4 games hes been in) and we end up winning a few more games than expected and finish the season strong? Would Ralph use that as an excuse to keep DJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 There you go again flip flopping...the other day you said it was Trent and called for Fitz...now its DJ... And I love how you say me thinking is scary when I was right on everything you called me retarted on...you thinking is scary, just read your quote in my signature... Uh, what are you talking about? I said there you go flip flopping again as you always do and you bring up name calling...Who said anything about name calling? And if you want to bring that up, you are the one who started with that garbage a long time ago because I criticized Trent. If you are going to provoke someone with insults and name calling then dont get butt hurt when someone reacts to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 First off, let me say I NEVER said Fitz was any good, the jury is still out whether he can be a solid QB or not. Second, in almost EVERY loss going back to last year, we were close and in postion to still win late in the game despite poor QB play in the majority of them. So, given our level of competiveness while dealing with ineptness from Trent and JP, it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that even if Fitz is average we could end up winning some ball games. Make no mistake, I have little faith in Fitz and dont see him as our starting QB, but with all these weapons he could end up doing ok. All I am saying is WHAT IF Fitz ends up being average or solid (he has won the last 4 games hes been in) and we end up winning a few more games than expected and finish the season strong? Would Ralph use that as an excuse to keep DJ? Fitz already has a solid body of work to judge from. He played a ton last year. He's no more than a backup, and I'm not even really sure he would even be considered a solid backup at that. He was pretty brutal on Sunday other than he TRIED to make the throws that Trent doesn't even seem to look for. Most of the time, Fitz was inaccurate and the pass fell incomplete. What game in the NFL isn't really close anymore? Every bad team in the league is usually in a lot of close or winnable games for a good portion of their season. Then, they do something stupid, or make bad plays, or the real contender actually wakes up and trounces them late in the game. We are now one of those awful teams that plays terrible football. Add the fact that we have no depth on this team is abysmal. Flip flopping philosophies, bad coaching, terrible front office. It's over people. We have no chance of being even a decent team. This team needs way more than Fitz to be solid to take it to 9-7. A team like Baltimore has a legit chance to break from medicore to solid, not Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 You've gotta be kidding me right? We are talking about the QB who came in and went 10-25 for 116 yards with one TD and one INT, right? The same inaccurate QB, who was less than average with Ochocinco and Housh last year right? Somehow this is the QB that is going to get DJ to 9-7, as you stated (possibly 9-7) while taking this god awful team we have to a 7-3 record the rest of the way. It's amazing that fans are so shortsighted. They kind of remind you of the ESPN poll that flucuates every time the Bills either win or lose a game. I watched a game Sunday, where the Jets were so absolutely bad at QB, that they tried numerous times to give us a win, yet, we failed to grab the reigns until the Jets finally rolled over and died. It had almost nothing to do with anything the Bills did on offense or defense. Then we have our fearless 1-4 head coach who plays it conservative AGAIN by setting up Lindell for a long FG with swirling winds to win the game, and he missed again, just like vs. Cleveland last year. Seriously, what does it take to break some of you? This team sucks. This coaching staff sucks. Period. They are one of the worst teams in the league, clearly. And yet, Fitzgerald, who was allowed to leave the Bengals, despite Carson Palmer coming back from a major injury will lead us to a respectable season? I bet we get steamrolled this week. The Panthers will run all over us, and Steve Smith made a statement and will most likely have a huge game. My goals have changed. I hope the kids on the O-line keep improving and gain much needed experience. I also hope our head coach continues to make himself look like an idiot so that he will be gone for sure, at the end of the year, if not sooner. Focus people. Our team is awful. It's way deeper than QB. Way deeper. Fitz is not the answer. Seriously, if we are as bad as you make us out to be then why were we so close in most of our losses? In most of those losses we had well below average QB play from Trent and JP... I am just saying it wont take more than average QB play to get a lot of those wins back, so if Fitz is even average its not outside the realm of possibility we could win some games. And if we do, what happens to DJ? Seems Ralph is giving him every chance he can to hold on to his job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lv-Bills Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Seriously, if we are as bad as you make us out to be then why were we so close in most of our losses? In most of those losses we had well below average QB play from Trent and JP... I am just saying it wont take more than average QB play to get a lot of those wins back, so if Fitz is even average its not outside the realm of possibility we could win some games. And if we do, what happens to DJ? Seems Ralph is giving him every chance he can to hold on to his job... Fitz already has a solid body of work to judge from. He played a ton last year. He's no more than a backup, and I'm not even really sure he would even be considered a solid backup at that. He was pretty brutal on Sunday other than he TRIED to make the throws that Trent doesn't even seem to look for. Most of the time, Fitz was inaccurate and the pass fell incomplete. What game in the NFL isn't really close anymore? Every bad team in the league is usually in a lot of close or winnable games for a good portion of their season. Then, they do something stupid, or make bad plays, or the real contender actually wakes up and trounces them late in the game. We are now one of those awful teams that plays terrible football. Add the fact that we have no depth on this team is abysmal. Flip flopping philosophies, bad coaching, terrible front office. It's over people. We have no chance of being even a decent team. This team needs way more than Fitz to be solid to take it to 9-7. A team like Baltimore has a legit chance to break from medicore to solid, not Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayzer32 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 There you go again flip flopping...the other day you said it was Trent and called for Fitz...now its DJ... And I love how you say me thinking is scary when I was right on everything you called me retarted on...you thinking is scary, just read your quote in my signature... Well this answers alot. And no, Fitz sucks, Jauron sucks, pretty much the whole organization sucks right now. Trent is the best option for QB right now, with or without the concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Only "Fitz" that could save Jauron would be Larry Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Alphapoo has halted his downward trend and now officially has fallen off a cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan888 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 hahaha you can not be serious. Juaron? 10 wins? please. You do realize he went 13-3 in Chicago right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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