Beerball Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 link No details available regarding a motive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 link No details available regarding a motive. This was posted earlier, but I don't see the thread now. It may have been moved to PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 dean, you are correct, its over there This was posted earlier, but I don't see the thread now. It may have been moved to PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I don't want to do anything Eastern Kentucky. Or Western Kentucky either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I don't want to do anything Eastern Kentucky. Or Western Kentucky either damnit. As soon as I saw this thread, that's what i was going to post. Ya beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWVABillsFan Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Regardless of what the man was doing, other than threataning to kill somebody or molest a child, he did not deserve to die or be treated in any negaitive manner leading up to his death. Now that being said it is a shame he had to die for a government that does not give a damn about it's citizens other then their money. Isn't the original job of the government supposed to be to defend this country in all manners? Instead they are putting innocent civilians in harms way to have a few more drops of information that will allow them to just charge more taxes anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Regardless of what the man was doing, other than threataning to kill somebody or molest a child, he did not deserve to die or be treated in any negaitive manner leading up to his death. Now that being said it is a shame he had to die for a government that does not give a damn about it's citizens other then their money. Isn't the original job of the government supposed to be to defend this country in all manners? Instead they are putting innocent civilians in harms way to have a few more drops of information that will allow them to just charge more taxes anyway. Agreed, those rat bastards have been sticking it to us for over 200 years. Enough is enough I say. All part of the liberal plan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Regardless of what the man was doing, other than threataning to kill somebody or molest a child, he did not deserve to die or be treated in any negaitive manner leading up to his death. Now that being said it is a shame he had to die for a government that does not give a damn about it's citizens other then their money. Isn't the original job of the government supposed to be to defend this country in all manners? Instead they are putting innocent civilians in harms way to have a few more drops of information that will allow them to just charge more taxes anyway. There was nothing wrong about what he was doing period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 for those with the knee jerk reactions on this best to wait for the deets before jumping to conclusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 No ****. And I was the one that said it could have only been suicide if Fed had been written upside down. Wow, those crazy anti-government teabaggers huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I gave you props in the PPP board for posting that exact statement No ****. And I was the one that said it could have only been suicide if Fed had been written upside down. Wow, those crazy anti-government teabaggers huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 that's a sick dude. Money is a hell of a drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 They just said that the word fed was written from bottom to top... I take that is NOT upside dwon... Just written from the bottom to top, that being I take the stroke of the lettering started from the bottom. Now that being said 2 things: 1. I noticed that my crazy children write like that. That being MOST of their lettering starts from the bottom, not top. This drives me crazy, and I always tried to weed it out of them... To no avail. They write well (printing and they know cursive which they very seldom use ). Yet, with computers... I do see the school not pushing penmenship as much. For this reason, I do not have a printer in my house. All homework gets hand written! That (above) is sort of a tangent. 2. If somebody did want to kill him and MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE, just print the words upside down. Anyway... I want to know if they did an autopsy and did a brain core sample or whatever they do to find out if a person was in a state to commit suicide. I am pretty sure they can tell from those tests. Again... Was the word "FED" written upside down or just lettered bottom to top??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelso_Helmet Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 They just said that the word fed was written from bottom to top... I take that is NOT upside dwon... Just written from the bottom to top, that being I take the stroke of the lettering started from the bottom. Now that being said 2 things: 1. I noticed that my crazy children write like that. That being MOST of their lettering starts from the bottom, not top. This drives me crazy, and I always tried to weed it out of them... To no avail. They write well (printing and they know cursive which they very seldom use ). Yet, with computers... I do see the school not pushing penmenship as much. For this reason, I do not have a printer in my house. All homework gets hand written! That (above) is sort of a tangent. 2. If somebody did want to kill him and MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE, just print the words upside down. Anyway... I want to know if they did an autopsy and did a brain core sample or whatever they do to find out if a person was in a state to commit suicide. I am pretty sure they can tell from those tests. Again... Was the word "FED" written upside down or just lettered bottom to top??? aside from questions regarding how the word "Fed" was written, also read that all the dude had to do was stand up and he would immediately ended the asphixiation. i feel for the guy's son and even sympathy for the guy himself. but to all the folks who beat the "evil, anti-government teabaggers did this" drum once this story broke, still waiting for an acknowledgement of your mistake....so far i've heard none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 aside from questions regarding how the word "Fed" was written, also read that all the dude had to do was stand up and he would immediately ended the asphixiation. i feel for the guy's son and even sympathy for the guy himself. but to all the folks who beat the "evil, anti-government teabaggers did this" drum once this story broke, still waiting for an acknowledgement of your mistake....so far i've heard none. Check out PPP, Gene was fairly gracious about his mistake and might have even learned something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 Check out PPP, Gene was fairly gracious about his mistake and might have even learned something. I think you're a tad optimistic on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I think you're a tad optimistic on that one. I did qualify it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 aside from questions regarding how the word "Fed" was written, also read that all the dude had to do was stand up and he would immediately ended the asphixiation. i feel for the guy's son and even sympathy for the guy himself. but to all the folks who beat the "evil, anti-government teabaggers did this" drum once this story broke, still waiting for an acknowledgement of your mistake....so far i've heard none. I do acknowledge the possibilty of a mistake... I never reall jumped on the anti-gov't think... Always leaving open that it was self-induced. Yet, I still don't believe all the stuff they are saying. Why would they want it anything else but suicide? Maybe somebody was holding him down? I want to know what the autopsy brough back on brain condition/sample testing. Was it inconclusive? Was he in a suicidal state? Or was he not in a suicidal state of mind? I am pretty sure they can tell with tests. I still don't believe either way. Call me a conspiracy nut. The "facts" they are trotting out don't seem conclusive to me YET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 I want to know what the autopsy brough back on brain condition/sample testing. Was it inconclusive? Was he in a suicidal state? Or was he not in a suicidal state of mind? I am pretty sure they can tell with tests. No, they can't. There's no physical test that can tell you a person's state of mind before they died - the best investigators can ever do is collect statements from people and try to build a coherent picture of the person's attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 No, they can't. There's no physical test that can tell you a person's state of mind before they died - the best investigators can ever do is collect statements from people and try to build a coherent picture of the person's attitude. Really? I was sure they could. A friend I know had a suicide in the family and he said they did a brain test... I am not sure what he meant now that you have seemed to debunked that. I thought it had something to do with the presence of certain chemicals or what not present in the brain. With regard to this story, they are still investigating and waiting for all things to come back... Will be about another two weeks or so. Why are they coming out now... Why not just wait... They waited this long. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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