BeastMode54 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I really hope we sign him, but I fear I agree with the rest of you that he is using this as a ploy to get more by going to 2 teams in Buffalo and the Chiefs with serious need, it forces the Eagles to overpay. I don't think Runyan will be chomping at the bit to play with T.O. again either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Is he that bad? I didn't watch much preseason (I had better things to do). He looked very weak on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 He looked very weak on passing downs. Hey! So did we! This is great--a perfect match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Here's how the Bills could "pre-empt" the competition. Offer him a guaranteed contract that puts him on the roster for opening day. All the other teams are presumably avoiding doing that as it would guarantee his contract for the season. If he passes our physical, the Bills could take the risk and sign him to a guaranteed contract...a risk the other teams are most likely trying to avoid. It's a possibility, but it seems to me that the big risk with Runyan is that he'll wind up on IR, since I don't really see anybody finding a better tackle midway through the year to replace him with. In this case (if he goes on IR), whoever signs him ends up eating his contract anyway, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I really hope we sign him, but I fear I agree with the rest of you that he is using this as a ploy to get more by going to 2 teams in Buffalo and the Chiefs with serious need, it forces the Eagles to overpay. I don't think Runyan will be chomping at the bit to play with T.O. again either It has been reported that TO had many friends in the locker room everywhere he played. I think that is the reason Dallas cut him. TO had many players on his side of the Tony/TO debacle & Jerry wanted to try & unite the locker room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Last guy out, lock up. AFAIK, Runyan's been on the market for months with no takers. 13 years in the NFL. No surprise about his knee problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Didn't/doesn't Runyan have a reputation as being a "dirty" player? If so sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Is Runyan, with his injury history, any better than Butler? Butler's never going to make a pro bowl or anything, but he's a pretty fundamentally solid tackle. Brad Butler: 0 NFL starts at OT Jon Runyan: 192 starts at OT Granted, JR is older and coming off microfracutre surgery. But he's been cleared to play. This is precisely the sort of move the Bills make to avert all the negative discussion going on right now, so long as the guy will come cheap. He's a name player, but the Bills seem more interested in winning the PR battle than the one on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Brad Butler: 0 NFL starts at OTJon Runyan: 192 starts at OT Granted, JR is older and coming off microfracutre surgery. But he's been cleared to play. This is precisely the sort of move the Bills make to avert all the negative discussion going on right now, so long as the guy will come cheap. He's a name player, but the Bills seem more interested in winning the PR battle than the one on the field. There are three other teams that want him beside the Bills. If he can move & keep up with the Bills line in the No huddle, Runyon at RT & Butler at RG would look pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 There are three other teams that want him beside the Bills. If he can move & keep up with the Bills line in the No huddle, Runyon at RT & Butler at RG would look pretty good. Looks very good to opposing DC's, I'd imagine. Nothing is better than aged OL vet spending the last six years in the NFC coming in 3 days before season start, I 'd say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Anyone but Butler at RT at this point. But how to balance that against the someone that hasn't played a single snap and we don't need no stinkin Pro Bowlers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoName Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 WHY WHY WHY is everyone trying to send Levitre to the bench????? I do not understand.....if we got Runyan why would he send him to RT....dont u think that if we needed a RT we would have kept walker????? give me abreak....Levitre had one really bad play other than that...how is he the weak link on the line??? give me a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotwing Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Brad Butler: 0 NFL starts at OTJon Runyan: 192 starts at OT Granted, JR is older and coming off microfracutre surgery. But he's been cleared to play. This is precisely the sort of move the Bills make to avert all the negative discussion going on right now, so long as the guy will come cheap. He's a name player, but the Bills seem more interested in winning the PR battle than the one on the field. If the Bills sign him, it will be looked at as desperate, and further retooling of the line. If the Bills don't sign him, it will be looked at as a failure of the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 He worked out for KC yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Git er done, in the name of all that is holy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Super. Now we'll have a guy watching Eagles games all by himself on Mondays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Runyan in Philly on Wednesday Wonder if he's just making the rounds now or touching base with teams who had already expressed interest. Nobody signs him until after week 1 anyway since the teams are only responsible for paying games they are on the roster, not the whole year if they cut them later. Ditto that for Garcia, Feeley and Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/ Didn't see this posted anywhere...how do we feel about it? How could anyone not feel like it would be awesome to sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthGeorgiaBillsFan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Looks very good to opposing DC's, I'd imagine. Nothing is better than aged OL vet spending the last six years in the NFC coming in 3 days before season start, I 'd say... An unintelligent post. Nothing further needs to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Oh God please no. He's washed up, a has been. He was good in his day, but his better one's are behind him. We need to look to the future, not some old vet looking to pass his days on our roster. The last time I saw him play the Giants he was getting killed by the Giants Dlinemen and Mcnabb was running for his life. I'll take my chances with our two young tackles and Butler. Langston Walker was a top 10 RT, if they needed a RT they should have put him back there. Runyan is not a LT as Walker was also not a LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIE HARD 1967 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Ralph, you are wasting money again, do it over the phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'd rather see Jonas Jennings, if he's healthy and in decent shape, in Buffalo. He can play left and right tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I'd rather see Jonas Jennings, if he's healthy and in decent shape, in Buffalo. He can play left and right tackle. This has to be a joke. The guy is done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineMoxie Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Jon Runyan is the last player in the NFL who played for the former Houston Oilers. See, now THAT is an interesting statistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 If he is healthy I'm all for it. This young Line could use a vet to show them how it's done. Runyan is a nasty Lineman and he's the shot in the arm our Line needs. I'd love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Last guy out, lock up. AFAIK, Runyan's been on the market for months with no takers. 13 years in the NFL. No surprise about his knee problem. Yes, but he was just medically cleared to play on August 26th and now there are reportedly 4 teams interested in him. So I think your statement about being on the market for months is not quite accurate...though your posts are typically excellent. WHY WHY WHY is everyone trying to send Levitre to the bench????? I do not understand.....if we got Runyan why would he send him to RT....dont u think that if we needed a RT we would have kept walker????? give me abreak....Levitre had one really bad play other than that...how is he the weak link on the line??? give me a break I believe that the cutting of Walker had as much (if not more) to do with him not being the type of smart, nasty, high-motor (please...refrain) player that the Bills want to build around. I agree that Walker was decent at right tackle last year but I think that is besides the point. If the Bills sign him, it will be looked at as desperate, and further retooling of the line. If the Bills don't sign him, it will be looked at as a failure of the front office. So true hotwing. Without positive results, anything this team does or doesn't do is viewed as some sort of failing. Oh God please no. He's washed up, a has been. He was good in his day, but his better one's are behind him. We need to look to the future, not some old vet looking to pass his days on our roster. The last time I saw him play the Giants he was getting killed by the Giants Dlinemen and Mcnabb was running for his life. I'll take my chances with our two young tackles and Butler. Langston Walker was a top 10 RT, if they needed a RT they should have put him back there. Runyan is not a LT as Walker was also not a LT. I will admit that I haven't had the time, energy, or opportunity to evaluate his play from last year. However if 4 teams are interested in him... Ralph, you are wasting money again, do it over the phone! Would we rather Ralph be a cheapskate or would we rather he took a bold stab at glory? There's no other viable veteran tackles out there really and I personally don't mind taking the risk of signing Runyan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 He won't sign with us. We obviously need a tackle, everyone in the league knows that. He's just using us for leverage. Unless Ralph overpays him, at least 30% over what another team offers, no way he signs with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Langston Walker was a top 10 RT, if they needed a RT they should have put him back there. Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Jon Runyan Cons: 35, coming off serious injury, Even if he was healthly can a giant 35 yo man thrive in a fast paced no-huddle attack. Pros: was one of the better RTs in the NFL, there is a history of OTs playing effectively until almost 40, a game that is based on size, strength and intelligence can last much longer than one based on speed and quickness. (see Ted Washington) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...otread7/seifert Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan is regarded as a fearless player, aggressive in coverage and against the run. Ask him about a nightmare scenario, and it doesn't take him long to come up with one involving a notorious Philadelphia Eagles tandem. "A screen with Jon Runyan with [brian] Westbrook behind him," he said. "One-on-one with Runyan with Westbrook behind him for a touchdown. Oh my goodness. I know I am going to have to go through him if it's for a touchdown. I'm just thinking about what body part I am going to use that could be injured. Shoulder? Neck? Back? Those three things I would be highly worried about with Runyan. "I think if you go low on Runyan, he may drop the knee somewhere. So I think you have to stay high and just let him baptize you. That's probably what I would do. You know when you go backwards and your head hits first and you wake up as if somebody baptized you or blessed you? I think that would be Runyan right there, all day, every day." Philadelphia's Runyan, the only active player in the league who suited up for the Houston Oilers, is in his 13th season. Finnegan has played against the Eagles only once, his rookie season in 2006, and encountered Runyan just once in that game. "He plays the game at a high level, he's a nasty player," Finnegan said of the 6-7, 330-pound Runyan. "He got his hands on me when we played Philly and he threw me about 25 yards away from the play, and the play wasn't even around me. So I just know if he got his hands on me and he was the lead blocker on a screen that it could be detrimental to my health." In other words he would be a horrible fit for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Are you serious? I think he's talking about the CFL. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...otread7/seifert In other words he would be a horrible fit for Buffalo. Just a little slow on the draw is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Old players coming off injury are not the answer for the OL. We got to let the young players play and grow together at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I would love the signing! Play him at RT in week 2. If we got him, I would move Wood to the LG and Butler back to RG. Getting Runyan will be a longshot, and moving these guys to those spots would be an even bigger one, but let's keep our fingers crossed. GET ER DONE! You can't move Wood to LG in his rookie season. It would be insane. If you are that desperate to replace Levitre, do it with a veteran who's been around for awhile. Butler, maybe, but moving a rookie to a position he's never played before after having him at a different position all through OTAs and camp is setting him up to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I think he's talking about the CFL. That would still be generous. This Langston Walker revisionist history puzzles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 You can't move Wood to LG in his rookie season. It would be insane. If you are that desperate to replace Levitre, do it with a veteran who's been around for awhile. Butler, maybe, but moving a rookie to a position he's never played before after having him at a different position all through OTAs and camp is setting him up to fail. We're talking about the Bills though. That would still be generous. This Langston Walker revisionist history puzzles me. Only 8 teams in the CFL, so being in the top 10 wouldn't be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...otread7/seifert In other words he would be a horrible fit for Buffalo. Finnegan got blown up a couple of times last night, I think he might be having nightmares for a while now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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