murra Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 The Obama Press Conference led me to some interesting revelations. (One) Why does George Bush get the rap for being a poor public speaker? Obama seems to think it's a campaign still... But it's not. Yeah he stutters every other lame example some other dude came up with, and I realize Bush was horrendous at times, but that's not what I'm on about. I get the feeling that he makes these analogies and whatnot to make everyone still love him. He should be explaining his healthcare plan to raise a reaction out of people to see if it's what they want. He should be legitimately answering questions, so we understand how the country is being run. Instead he throws these analogies that are so pathetic. Let me ask you this? If a blue pill is one price, and does nothing, and a red pill is half the price and cures you, which one would you take? I don't know Obama, but I'm pretty god damn sure that has absolutely nothing to do with the healthcare plan. Are you creating a system where people reap the benefits of the wealthy, or are you re-creating the pharmaceutical process as we know it? (Two) How come no one is railing this guy for his polarizing comments? In a course I had this past semester I was forced to read some 300 page garbage on how George Bush was the most polarizing President ever. Everything that proved this polemic was done so using absurd implications, and yet today in the political science world it’s a consensus belief. The problem is that Obama is so bad it's not even implied. He goes right out there and says it. It's really quite sad. He'll say something about the Democrats, and realize that he's supposed to address the Republicans and goes on a politically correct rant about how "they have some good ideas too. We’re not getting their votes, but..." blah blah blah. Clearly that's the least presidential way of approaching the dichotomy of congress, yet he does the same thing every time. Careful to make sure he doesn't say anything about the Republicans negatively, but make sure that he's stated that there is a definite party line. (Three) You can't be serious about blaming the previous administration in yet another conference, can you? Really? That's the leader you guys voted on right there. He's the kid who got out of detention by telling the teacher who threw the paper air plane. (Four) Crisis? Really? We need healthcare immediately? How can America fall for this crap, and how is it any different than the way communist countries portrayed things to their people throughout history. In order to rally support they (almost literally) make up a crisis so we need things. I don't know. I just felt the need to rant a bit, and it wasn't incredibly well thought-out, since I just typed this in a two minute sitting, but I'm willing to debate these points into the next millennium, because we've got a guy who literally said republicans don't want healthcare because it "will make Obama vulnerable". What an egomaniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Let me ask you this? If a blue pill is one price, and does nothing, and a red pill is half the price and cures you, which one would you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Did anyone notice that he has a strut in his walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Did anyone notice that he has a strut in his walk? My wife keeps pointing out that Obama walks just like me. I think it's a basketball thing. I know a lot of hoopsters who move like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 My wife keeps pointing out that Obama walks just like me. I think it's a basketball thing. I know a lot of hoopsters who move like that. na, I think it's a brotha thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I watched his press conference tonight, and I learned a few things: 1) Whenever he does a press conference, the lighting behind him always has some bronze, gold, amber hue to it. It's really cool. Not sure who does his lighting, but they're doing a boffo job. 2) When Republicans say "If this happens, then it will have this horrible result," it's called fear tactics. When Obama says "If we don't pass this right now, we'll all die as rotting corpses at the strike of midnight," it's inspirational. 3) The health care plan still has no plan, but in spite of this very basic truth, he's certain what it will be, and he's certain what it won't be, and he's certain it will be right and save the economy, but there's no way in hell he or anyone in Congress plan to take part in it because, let's be real, we're not !@#$king idiots, mmmmkay? 4) In case you missed it, for the umpteenth time, this isn't about him, he inherited this mess, and in spite of all economic evidence to the contrary, we're really on the right path. Really. No kidding. Why, if we didn't pass a stimulus plan that isn't working, the world would REALLY be a mess. 5) Our media is filled with pussies. 6) I'd be willing to bet he pretty much put the final nail in the coffin of any health care initiative getting done this year because the ONLY people who watched tonight and saw him convincing America that he has any clue of what is really going on were Tingles, Olbermann, and probably Garafolo. He has no clue. He has no leadership. He's making them do things without being a leader, so when they fail...well, guess what? It wasn't his fault. Dude's a genius. A freaking genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 5) Our media is filled with pussies. Ahh, the media! Brilliant. I forgot to mention that. He just picked people who gave him lay-ups for questions. The toughest question was will you yourself partake in the healthcare plan, to which he jokingly told the press, hell no. They laughed. He answered a layup about how miraculously a black leader was arrested for no reason, and spewed nonsense one dimensional race card tactics back at them. They nodded, fully supported his stance against race (like that's even a stance these days... everyone is against racism), and all marked it down as a very positive meeting. It's so easy for this guy. I'm starting to wonder if he may actually be in a situation where he can do no wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 All's I saw was blad, blah, blah....Not one fact or one though on how he was going to achieve anything. Dude's in over his head and the smart ones are starting to realize it and back away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I "didn't hear him coming out attacking Republicans," until I heard him coming out attacking Republicans. He's living in an alternate universe of purple haze, unicorns and tie died rainbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 All's I saw was blad, blah, blah....Not one fact or one though on how he was going to achieve anything. Dude's in over his head and the smart ones are starting to realize it and back away from him. I knew this day would come. Mr. "I'm the President" likes BEING President, not the actual sitting down and doing the f'ing job. Here's a guy that had the "audacity" to think that two short years as a US Senator was enough toiling for him and decided it was time to stop working and go and do what he does best, talk talk talk in front of embarrassingly fawning audiences and media for two years running for the biggest office in the country. Once he was elected he just gave the "work" part to the far left loonies in DC. To paraphrase his angry radical spiritual leader..."Obama's chickens...are coming home". This pathetic attempt at the "Chicago style" ramrodding of an over 1000 page health care plan that no one can apparently explain what it does or what the costs will be to the American people is simply outrageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I knew this day would come. Mr. "I'm the President" likes BEING President, not the actual sitting down and doing the f'ing job. Here's a guy that had the "audacity" to think that two short years as a US Senator was enough toiling for him and decided it was time to stop working and go and do what he does best, talk talk talk in front of embarrassingly fawning audiences and media for two years running for the biggest office in the country. Once he was elected he just gave the "work" part to the far left loonies in DC. To paraphrase his angry radical spiritual leader..."Obama's chickens...are coming home". This pathetic attempt at the "Chicago style" ramrodding of an over 1000 page health care plan that no one can apparently explain what it does or what the costs will be to the American people is simply outrageous. Exactly...The hype is over America...Time for your "Chosen One" to produce...Sadly I don't think he can...His Socialist Agenda is waking up the Independants to what he really stands for. Hopefully the "BLue Dogs" can stem the bleeding until 2010 and 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I watched his press conference tonight, and I learned a few things: 5) Our media is filled with pussies. I'd say it's more like our media is filled with a bunch of idiots bound by their politically biased networks. Exactly...The hype is over America...Time for your "Chosen One" to produce...Sadly I don't think he can...His Socialist Agenda is waking up the Independants to what he really stands for. Hopefully the "BLue Dogs" can stem the bleeding until 2010 and 2012. Not saying this in defense of anyone..... In 180 days - could anyone produce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'd say it's more like our media is filled with a bunch of idiots bound by their politically biased networks. Not saying this in defense of anyone..... In 180 days - could anyone produce? I think after 6 months he can quit blaming the other guy...that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not saying this in defense of anyone..... In 180 days - could anyone produce? It's not even about the expectations of him producing. We all know that the country was in the crapper before he took over and that any recovery was going to take time. It's more about him saying one thing on the campaign trail, talking about being a moderate who will reach across the isle, then once in office dramatically making a hard left turn by letting the liberals take over the policy making. Americans gave him the benefit of the doubt when he first ramrodded the 700 billion dollar economic "stimulus" bill which no one who voted for it actually read. An over 1000 page bill which was voted on only three days after it was finished. The reason was supposed to be that Americans can't wait for this money to be spent. Well six months later only 7% of the "stimulus" has actually been spent. It was clearly NEVER going to be something that helped average Americans. If you look at the recent poles, it appears that the dopes that bought his bull__t the first time are waking up fast on the heels of this healthcare bill fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Not saying this in defense of anyone..... In 180 days - could anyone produce? No - and that's especially true when you're not willing to actually face the problems (like Tort reform/pricing/FDA and other regulation). But why quibble over things like details when there's a chance to reach into the pockets of those evil rich people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I think after 6 months he can quit blaming the other guy...that's all. Interesting NYT article which discussed, among other things, Obama's claim last night that in spite of the embarrassing deficit he is creating, it would have been over $2 trillion more over the next 10 years based on the spending when he took office. So according to Obama's logic, all of his spending on grape genetics, marsh mice and other earmarks actually will reduce our deficit by $2T in the next decade, except... “If we had done nothing, if you had the same old budget as opposed to the changes we made,” the deficit over the next 10 years would be $2.2 trillion greater, the president said. In fact, $1.5 trillion of those “savings” are mainly based on an assumption that the United States would have had as many troops in Iraq in 10 years as it did when Mr. Obama took office. But before leaving office, President George W. Bush signed an agreement with Baghdad mandating the withdrawal of all American forces within three years. So Mr. Obama is claiming credit for not spending money that, under the policy he inherited from Mr. Bush, would never have been spent in the first place. Y'know, when the NYT is critical of his stats... Given how well he's done in his speeches, I was surprised that he unloaded such a dud last night. Not to mention, for a guy who has full control of Washington, he sure seems to spend a boatload of time blaming the Republicans for stopping this reform. He doesn't need the GOP for anything. If it's really that critical, and the entire world will go bankrupt without this reform, you'd think he'd just get this done right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 2) When Republicans say "If this happens, then it will have this horrible result," it's called fear tactics. When Obama says "If we don't pass this right now, we'll all die as rotting corpses at the strike of midnight," it's inspirational. I've been saying this for a while now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Y'know, when the NYT is critical of his stats... Given how well he's done in his speeches, I was surprised that he unloaded such a dud last night. Not to mention, for a guy who has full control of Washington, he sure seems to spend a boatload of time blaming the Republicans for stopping this reform. He doesn't need the GOP for anything. If it's really that critical, and the entire world will go bankrupt without this reform, you'd think he'd just get this done right now. So you agree with the NYT article that all of his excess spending is going to lower the deficit trajectory not raise it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 I'd say it's more like our media is filled with a bunch of idiots bound by their politically biased networks. To-MAY-to, to-MAH-to. Not saying this in defense of anyone..... In 180 days - could anyone produce? He and Congress produced a massive pork bill, acquired the auto industry (and gave part of it to the unions), and broke Wall Street's monopoly on Wall Street. That's...uh...something. Really, though, the possibility of creating a meaningful health bill in 180 days is extremely unlikely. I have more problems with idiots on the Hill thinking they've created a solution out of thin air, more than I do Obama's performance therein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted July 23, 2009 Share Posted July 23, 2009 Really, though, the possibility of creating a meaningful health bill in 180 days is extremely unlikely. I have more problems with idiots on the Hill thinking they've created a solution out of thin air, more than I do Obama's performance therein. That in itself is illuminating, as there appears to be a President who's perfectly fine with Congress taking over the Executive branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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