C.Biscuit97 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Lately, as people find new things to female dog about, our backup QB has become popular to bash. Some think we have the worst backup QB in the league. Others wondered why we jumped on Fitzpatrick so quick. People point to RF struggling with 2 "elite" receivers. So, I did a simple compare and contrast between Fitz and Carson Palmer, who is generally regarded as one of the best QBs in the league. It was pretty interesting: http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick...le?id=FIT792915 Ryan Harvard: 70 QB rating, 59.4 completion %, 5.1 yards per attempt, 8 tds, 9 ints, 304 rushing yards (3rd in the NFL amongst QBs), and 38 sacks in 12 starts. http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055 Carson Palmer: 69 QB rating, 58.1 completion %, 5.7 ypa, 3 tds, 4 ints, 38 rushing yards, and 11 sacks in 4 games. So while the sample size is somewhat skewed, Fitzpatrick had slightly better numbers than an elite QB. Maybe instead of thinking RF is a bad QB, it was more the Bengals o-line was terrible; they were so bad at running back they picked a drunken Benson off a boat to start; and their receivers aren't as good as they are made out. Either that or Ryan Fitzpatrick is slightly better than Palmer. Honestly, I think we are in a really good position at QB. We have a guy who was good enough for Mike Martz (who looks for strong armed QBs) to draft and has a good amount of starting NFL experience as a 27 year old. He also understands the game and will work with our starting QB instead of sulking on the sidelines. I apologize for being positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I apologize for being positive. you unreasonable !@#$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 3, 2009 Author Share Posted June 3, 2009 you unreasonable !@#$. Jauron is a loser, TO is a cancer, Trent is a vag, Lynch is a thug, Evans is one dimensional, Poz is slow, Ralph is cheap, Schobel is overrated, Whitner is a bust, Brandon is a marketing guy, and McKelvin talks funny. Do I get to fit in now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jauron is a loser, TO is a cancer, Trent is a vag, Lynch is a thug, Evans is one dimensional, Poz is slow, Ralph is cheap and racist, Schobel is overrated, Whitner is a bust, Brandon is a marketing guy, and McKelvin talks funny. Do I get to fit in now? There, I fixed it Now you fit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 In all the praise for Fitzpatrick and Gibran Hamden, don't overlook Cullen Harper. Not a member of the "brainiac QB" club that resides in Buffalo (he is from Clemson), he is supposed to be a pretty smart kid to, and has that "prototype" size (6'4" and 225 pounds) that make him an interesting prospect. We know Trent and Fitzpatrick make the team, I just wonder if Harper makes a strong case for the third spot...or maybe practice squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 In all the praise for Fitzpatrick and Gibran Hamden, don't overlook Cullen Harper. Not a member of the "brainiac QB" club that resides in Buffalo (he is from Clemson), he is supposed to be a pretty smart kid to, and has that "prototype" size (6'4" and 225 pounds) that make him an interesting prospect. We know Trent and Fitzpatrick make the team, I just wonder if Harper makes a strong case for the third spot...or maybe practice squad... where you getting Harper from..ther's no QB on this team in any way named Harper...unless the rosters I've seen don't have him listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazie Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Lately, as people find new things to female dog about, our backup QB has become popular to bash. Some think we have the worst backup QB in the league. Others wondered why we jumped on Fitzpatrick so quick. People point to RF struggling with 2 "elite" receivers. So, I did a simple compare and contrast between Fitz and Carson Palmer, who is generally regarded as one of the best QBs in the league. It was pretty interesting: http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick...le?id=FIT792915 Ryan Harvard: 70 QB rating, 59.4 completion %, 5.1 yards per attempt, 8 tds, 9 ints, 304 rushing yards (3rd in the NFL amongst QBs), and 38 sacks in 12 starts. http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055 Carson Palmer: 69 QB rating, 58.1 completion %, 5.7 ypa, 3 tds, 4 ints, 38 rushing yards, and 11 sacks in 4 games. So while the sample size is somewhat skewed, Fitzpatrick had slightly better numbers than an elite QB. Maybe instead of thinking RF is a bad QB, it was more the Bengals o-line was terrible; they were so bad at running back they picked a drunken Benson off a boat to start; and their receivers aren't as good as they are made out. Either that or Ryan Fitzpatrick is slightly better than Palmer. Honestly, I think we are in a really good position at QB. We have a guy who was good enough for Mike Martz (who looks for strong armed QBs) to draft and has a good amount of starting NFL experience as a 27 year old. He also understands the game and will work with our starting QB instead of sulking on the sidelines. I apologize for being positive. I loove Fitz as the backup, as long as TE stays in the game. Love Hamdan too, under same circumstances, in fact, Matt Baker may be the best of them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 where you getting Harper from..ther's no QB on this team in any way named Harper...unless the rosters I've seen don't have him listed Harper had agreed to a free-agent tryout with the Buffalo Bills for three day tryout. http://www.13wham.com/content/sports/local...YHUDuKpunQ.cspx http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2009/05/04/t...-with-a-chance/ QB Cullen Harper - Clemson – The former Tiger had a rough first day and looked like he was trying to show off his arm strength, throwing every pass 100 mph. But he showed some better touch the last two days and was always the first QB through in the three man rotation on reps. I also thought Gary Rogers threw a nice ball. I have not seen him adding to 80 man roster however or any mini-camp reports of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 I hope we never find out if this guy is any good or not, because if we do.........................that will mean Trent is injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 where you getting Harper from..ther's no QB on this team in any way named Harper...unless the rosters I've seen don't have him listed Ehh...sorry, my bad... I knew he had a tryout, but I thought he had made the initial roster, I hadn't heard/read that he hadn't. When they agreed to bring him in for a tryout, I thought it was a shrewd move. Prior to the 2008 college season, he was projected as a 1st round draft pick, for the reasons I mentioned. He didn't have a stellar senior season, as Clemson had an awful O-line, and he got the sh-- kicked out of him....sorry for the false (hope) alarm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 So while the sample size is somewhat skewed, Fitzpatrick had slightly better numbers than an elite QB. Maybe instead of thinking RF is a bad QB, it was more the Bengals o-line was terrible; they were so bad at running back they picked a drunken Benson off a boat to start; and their receivers aren't as good as they are made out. Either that or Ryan Fitzpatrick is slightly better than Palmer. Honestly, I think we are in a really good position at QB. We have a guy who was good enough for Mike Martz (who looks for strong armed QBs) to draft and has a good amount of starting NFL experience as a 27 year old. He also understands the game and will work with our starting QB instead of sulking on the sidelines. I apologize for being positive. I agree. I had posted some numbers, too, a while back: http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?s=&am...t&p=1434089 Main thing is that he improved as the year progressed last season and that's a very good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Some think we have the worst backup QB in the league. So, I did a simple compare and contrast between Fitz and Carson Palmer, who is generally regarded as one of the best QBs in the league. In what year was this originally posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jauron is a loser Don't worry, Jauron won't be around much longer. The Fitzpatrick signing sealed his fate A Yale man signing a Harvard QB? Skull And Bones won't stand for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 You forgot McGee is mediocre....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Fitzpatrick was the guy I wanted all along to be our back-up QB. He is young, still learning the position and has some experience. I would have liked to see Hamdan last year in the last couple of games to see if he could handle things with real live bullets but the coaches didn't give him an oportunity. I think this year we're in good shape at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jauron is a loser, TO is a cancer, Trent is a vag, Lynch is a thug, Evans is one dimensional, Poz is slow, Ralph is cheap, Schobel is overrated, Whitner is a bust, Brandon is a marketing guy, and McKelvin talks funny. Do I get to fit in now? trent is a glove wearing vag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jauron is a loser, TO is a cancer, Trent is a vag, Lynch is a thug, Evans is one dimensional, Poz is slow, Ralph is cheap, Schobel is overrated, Whitner is a bust, Brandon is a marketing guy, and McKelvin talks funny. Do I get to fit in now? You also forgot to mention that Langston Walker is a slug, Ellison sucks, and Ko Simpson is worth millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 You also forgot to mention that Langston Walker is a slug, Ellison sucks, and Ko Simpson is worth millions. Also.... Hardy is a bust Kelsay is the worst starting DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Lately, as people find new things to female dog about, our backup QB has become popular to bash. Some think we have the worst backup QB in the league. Others wondered why we jumped on Fitzpatrick so quick. People point to RF struggling with 2 "elite" receivers. So, I did a simple compare and contrast between Fitz and Carson Palmer, who is generally regarded as one of the best QBs in the league. It was pretty interesting: http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick...le?id=FIT792915 Ryan Harvard: 70 QB rating, 59.4 completion %, 5.1 yards per attempt, 8 tds, 9 ints, 304 rushing yards (3rd in the NFL amongst QBs), and 38 sacks in 12 starts. http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055 Carson Palmer: 69 QB rating, 58.1 completion %, 5.7 ypa, 3 tds, 4 ints, 38 rushing yards, and 11 sacks in 4 games. So while the sample size is somewhat skewed, Fitzpatrick had slightly better numbers than an elite QB. Maybe instead of thinking RF is a bad QB, it was more the Bengals o-line was terrible; they were so bad at running back they picked a drunken Benson off a boat to start; and their receivers aren't as good as they are made out. Either that or Ryan Fitzpatrick is slightly better than Palmer. Honestly, I think we are in a really good position at QB. We have a guy who was good enough for Mike Martz (who looks for strong armed QBs) to draft and has a good amount of starting NFL experience as a 27 year old. He also understands the game and will work with our starting QB instead of sulking on the sidelines. I apologize for being positive. I am one who happens to think that we have one of the worst backup QBs in the league. He is a #3 at best, way overpaid and we chased him like Joe Montana in his prime just became a Free Agent. We are in deep dodo if Trent ever gets hurt and we have to rely on "Noodle Arm" for any length of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted June 3, 2009 Share Posted June 3, 2009 Jauron is a loser, TO is a cancer, Trent is a vag, Lynch is a thug, Evans is one dimensional, Poz is slow, Ralph is cheap, Schobel is overrated, Whitner is a bust, Brandon is a marketing guy, and McKelvin talks funny. Do I get to fit in now? You left off: Kelsay is overpaid, we should have kept peters ... no the dude sucks so good bye, we have no D, we have no o-line, walker sucks, the Toronto series sucks, Marshawn is a thug, Donte Whitner sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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