Kelly the Dog Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 First of all, the no huddle is something all teams prepare to play against and the Patriots are a veteran defensive team. It's not really the surprise that is going to beat them, it's the execution of the plays. Which brings up the real question you should be asking: is it more worth it to only practice the no huddle in practice against your own defense and not use it in the five pre-season games and then try to pull a surprise on the Patsies for one half of one game? OR... Use the 5 preseason games against 5 different defenses a couple series each to try to get out the kinks. I'd say the games is a better strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everyday17 Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 You dont catch a team like the Pats by surprise for longer then one or two series'. They would quickly make adjustments and figure out how to slow that down.If you have to rely on stunts or gimmicks, you wont win many games against good coached teams. I would not mind seeing it sprinkled in here or there. But as much as it makes a D tired, those big O lineman also can get pretty winded. So nothing like the Tuna obliterating the Pats at home last season by running the wildcat formation over and over? Yeah, they adjusted to that real well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Well, if years past are any indication, they will never run a spread offense or go no-huddle this year after making that anouncement. It seems like every offseason the coaching staff has all these ideas about how we are going to play and improve through scheme and then we show up game one playing some variation of the same thing: crap football. Maybe it's a double-secret smokescreen. Our division will have all their players running wind sprints to make sure their in shape and then we come out and run the ball down their throats after they spent all training camp getting in better shape and lighter. you are correct. this announcement is another marketing ploy to hype the team for the sole purpose of selling tickets and merchandise. maybe it's also to keep TO's head from exploding as the OL gets totally replaced. it has nothing to do with the ultra conservative crap Dick will use on gameday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 First of all, the no huddle is something all teams prepare to play against and the Patriots are a veteran defensive team. It's not really the surprise that is going to beat them, it's the execution of the plays. Which brings up the real question you should be asking: is it more worth it to only practice the no huddle in practice against your own defense and not use it in the five pre-season games and then try to pull a surprise on the Patsies for one half of one game? OR... Use the 5 preseason games against 5 different defenses a couple series each to try to get out the kinks. I'd say the games is a better strategy. And then there was Jimmy Two Times, who got that nickname because he said everything twice, like: I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 And then there was Jimmy Two Times, who got that nickname because he said everything twice, like: I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers. lol I sent it from my phone and it didnt go through so I sent it again and it did, so I sent it again and it did. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I agree with you. Every team in the NFL feeds it's fans a little preview in the offseason. Who knows if we even see any of these ideas used next season. This no-huddle talk isn't even a blip on any other teams radar. I'm guessing that Bellicheat is more concerned with how he is going to exploit our talented but inexperienced o-line. Trust me Bills fans he isn't designing a new fangled defense to stop our E-gun offense. Besides they have seen a no-huddle before. I hope teams do overlook our talks of running the no huddle, especially the Pats. I also hope its more than just talk. Our offense is already capable of creating mismatches so by increasing the pace and giving Bellicheat problems substituting, Bellicheat's defense could be caught off guard a little by the no huddle especially considering they are an older more veteran team. Being by far the younger team and one of the youngest in the NFL I might add, stamina may be one of the things Buffalo could use to its advantage by running the no huddle. Plus Trent Edwards is a smart, unselfish QB with allot of weapons at his disposal run and pass. The no huddle with TE at the helm could make the Buffalo Bills almost impossible for any defense to stop in my opinion. I do agree with some posters though in that without proper game planning and execution it doesn't matter what you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Because there is no way we would have tried practicing this at training camp which anyone can go to or a preseason game which are televised. The pats* would never see it coming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Because there is no way we would have tried practicing this at training camp which anyone can go to or a preseason game which are televised. The pats* would never see it coming.... Nawww, never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Because there is no way we would have tried practicing this at training camp which anyone can go to or a preseason game which are televised. The pats* would never see it coming.... What they would not see coming would be a properly executed no-huddle. DJ has the wrong personality to be a head coach. He can not be an accomodating Pollyanna all the time, which he is. 'Til the Bills flush him, we're essentially going nowhere regardless of team talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boom Jam Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 First of all, the no huddle is something all teams prepare to play against and the Patriots are a veteran defensive team. It's not really the surprise that is going to beat them, it's the execution of the plays. Which brings up the real question you should be asking: is it more worth it to only practice the no huddle in practice against your own defense and not use it in the five pre-season games and then try to pull a surprise on the Patsies for one half of one game? OR... Use the 5 preseason games against 5 different defenses a couple series each to try to get out the kinks. I'd say the games is a better strategy. Exactly. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 with a no huddle/ spread offense. Isn't the smart thing to try and suprise a team like New England on Monday night? You know, the same team that doesn't even have to watch film on you because you are so predictable. Some people at One Bills drive need to quiet down. Sigh...you must be kidding if you think that the Patriots would have Nooo Ideea what to expect from us, a young team installing a no-huddle for the first time, which will require extensive practice and certain appearances in public practices if not right in a preseason game. Scouts for both week 1 teams abound in training camp. Nothing gets by NFL teams. It's their job to be prepared. Besides, every team's defense rehearses the no-huddle. If they don't, they're idiots. We play Belichick week 1. I uh...I think he'd be ready for the no-huddle even if these articles weren't written. So to call our coaching staff stupid for talking about this? *That* is really stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Well to be fair that article that Tim Graham either wrote or posted ( I am pretty sure he wrote it but I am not a 100% sure ) kind of tipped off the league to at least prepare for the possibility for a no huddle offense. I also think that they want to use the no huddle as a real offensive set rather than a gimmick. I am pretty sure they want to use it in pratice, scrimmages, as well as pre season games and be fully prepared to implement it. So eventually the league and the pats would have known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 you are correct. this announcement is another marketing ploy to hype the team for the sole purpose of selling tickets and merchandise. maybe it's also to keep TO's head from exploding as the OL gets totally replaced. it has nothing to do with the ultra conservative crap Dick will use on gameday. lmao Yeah, I'm sure Owens and Edwards were just fuming that the Bills were using first day draft picks to help the O-line. Thats the last thing an offensive player would want, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 lmao Yeah, I'm sure Owens and Edwards were just fuming that the Bills were using first day draft picks to help the O-line. Thats the last thing an offensive player would want, right? you are right why would they be concerned when the Bills traded away an elite Pro Bowl LT and replaced him with a slow fat guy that can't handle speed rushers. no concern either that every position on the OL will be someone new - with very little to no NFL experience the OL will be different, but whether it is improved when the season starts remains to be seen - especially to an extent capable of running a no huddle offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I takes a very unique group of Offensive Linemen to run the no huddle the way the 90 Bills did. They have to be in great shape. NOT Good shape, Great shape. How many times were there stories of the opposing D's just gasping for air. You basically have to be in better shape then they are. I think you can't make this call until you see where your personnel stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Fischer Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Um, so after the first game the Bills can keep the no-huddle, spread offense a secret for the rest of the season? Gonna bring the Watergate Plumbers to erase each game tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinBeforeYouLeave Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 We don't have a versatile enough tight end to be a patch catcher and an effective blocker. Rookies don't count, as the depth is ummm... not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 Maybe next week the Bills will announce they're going with the Wishbone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetrap08 Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 with a no huddle/ spread offense. Isn't the smart thing to try and suprise a team like New England on Monday night? You know, the same team that doesn't even have to watch film on you because you are so predictable. Some people at One Bills drive need to quiet down. It does'nt matter what offense the Bills run thier going to suck anyway and it not just the coaching staff that is stupid it's the front office that is stupid also. Why would you go out and draft players out position and use your first round pick on a one hit wonder, under sized player that played very littlel in colledge.Maybin in my opinion has Eric Flowers writen all over him. I think we are in for a very long season and Ralphy boy is'nt much better,Keeping Dick "Head" Juaron was just as stupid as anything else this moron has done in his 50 years owning the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 I think No, not really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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