AKC Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York If we continue the trend, I'm guessing we'll be looking for a new GM in 2009- Matt Millen should also be available and what a great fit that might be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York Horrible post. Sorry I read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I don't think you are making sense.. Marshawn, JP, McCargo, Whitner, Mike Williams.. none of those are WR or CB. You been drinking buddy? .. in either case I'm always nervous about taking a WR or CB with our 11th pick. I kind of hope we don't. But there needs to be a good DL or LB up there worth taking with #11. If not, Clements, Winfield, and Evans all worked out pretty well IMO. I hope we can repeat that success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York If we continue the trend, I'm guessing we'll be looking for a new GM in 2009- Matt Millen should also be available and what a great fit that might be! Exactly. Its cleary Russ Brandon's fault we took Thomas Smith and Jeff Burris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsD#1in2008 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Wow that guy really doesnt pay attention we have only taken 1 WR in the last 5 or so years in the 1st and that was Lee Evans, apparently he isnt much of an observationist GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stroud for Pro Bowl 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 I don't think you are making sense.. Marshawn, JP, McCargo, Whitner, Mike Williams.. none of those are WR or CB. You been drinking buddy? .. in either case I'm always nervous about taking a WR or CB with our 11th pick. I kind of hope we don't. But there needs to be a good DL or LB up there worth taking with #11. If not, Clements, Winfield, and Evans all worked out pretty well IMO. I hope we can repeat that success. The last two top picks used on DL go way back- to Bruce Smith. Flowers was the other. Over that span, we've been CB and WR slap-happy. Our more capable competition seems to have figured out a better approach. The question in April will be- are we paying attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York If we continue the trend, I'm guessing we'll be looking for a new GM in 2009- Matt Millen should also be available and what a great fit that might be! I can appreciate a crusade as well as the next guy but it's time to get back on the meds. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Anything related to Pats* shouldn't count because of the *, so let's count the first picks of the consistently very good AFC teams over last 8 drafts: Indy - 2 WR, 2 DB, 1 DE, 1 RB, 1 TE , 1 LB Pitt - 2 WR, 1 DB, 1 DT, 1DE, 1 QB, 1 TE , 1 LB SD- 2 WR, 4 DB, 1 QB, 1 LB, 1 RB What does that say? Not much, other than you better have good people evaluating talent, because many of those picks were crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 New England drafted Chad Jackson in the first round a few years back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 Anything related to Pats* shouldn't count because of the *, so let's count the first picks of the consistently very good AFC teams over last 8 drafts: Indy - 2 WR, 2 DB, 1 DE, 1 RB, 1 TE , 1 LB Pitt - 2 WR, 1 DB, 1 DT, 1DE, 1 QB, 1 TE , 1 LB SD- 2 WR, 4 DB, 1 QB, 1 LB, 1 RB What does that say? Not much, other than you better have good people evaluating talent, because many of those picks were crap. San Diego has solid talent in the middle of their DLine- they suit 5 interior guys on Sundays and don't overlook either the talent quotient or numbers inside. Pitt is a real wild card when it comes to their drafting and the quality of their D play- but since they play a true 3-4 they carry 2 NTs and then 3 other DLinemen in the 300 pound range. The anchor for that line though (Casey Hampton) was taken 19th overall. Indy is the only one who has really subpar talent in the middle. They were a top 5 D overall, but they were 15th against the run. They're a team like us who would become a much better overall team the moment they bring in another good DT to stick in their rotation. And you're 100% right- you better be good when you make the selection; I'm just thinking that if the Bills succeed at doing that this year there'll be a lot of unhappy fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I don't think it's fair to focus on the top pick when for example that excludes McCargo (1st round), but includes Parrish (drafted in the 2d round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKC Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 New England drafted Chad Jackson in the first round a few years back... He was a 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Points come from the passing game. The difference between the Lions and us is that we have a good offensive line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 And you're 100% right- you better be good when you make the selection; I'm just thinking that if the Bills succeed at doing that this year there'll be a lot of unhappy fans. That's what I was driving at. Never like to use hindsight to prove a point, but drafting Howard instead of Flowers, Rogers over Schobel, not trading up for Denney when Alex Brown is still on the board, and getting Umenyura instead of Kelsay would make this thread moot. Not every draft is perfect, but having good personnel people is more important than targeting positions at any point in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York If we continue the trend, I'm guessing we'll be looking for a new GM in 2009- Matt Millen should also be available and what a great fit that might be! 1997 - Round 1 - (23) Antowain Smith (RB) 1998 - Round 2 - (39) Sam Cowart (LB) 1999 - Round 1 - (23) Antoine Winfield (CB) Corrected 2000 - Round 1 - (26) Erik Flowers (DE) 2001 - Round 1 - (21) Nate Clements (CB) 2002 - Round 1 - (4) Mike Williams (OT) 2003 - Round 1 - (23) Willis McGahee (RB) 2004 - Round 1 - (13) Lee Evans (WR) 2005 - Round 2 - (55) Roscoe Parrish (WR) The only drafts of the current Bills front office: 2006 - Round 1 - (8) Donte Whitner (S) 2007 - Round 1 - (12) Marshawn Lynch (RB) So over the past eleven drafts 3 - Running Backs 2 - Wide Receivers 1 - Linebacker 1 - Defensive End 2 - Cornerback 1 - Offensive Tackle 1 - Safety Detroits last eleven drafts; 1997 - Round 1 - (5) Bryant Westbrook - (CB) 1998 - Round 1 - (20) Terry Fair - (CB) 1999 - Round 1 - (9) Chris Claiborne - (LB) 2000 - Round 1 - (20) Stokar McDougle (OT) 2001 - Round 1 - (18) Jeff Backus (OT) 2002 - Round 1 - (3) Joey Harrington (QB) 2003 - Round 1 - (2) Charles Rogers (WR) 2004 - Round 1 - (7) Roy Williams (WR) 2005 - Round 1 - (10) Mike Williams (WR) 2006 - Round 1 - (9) Ernie Sims (LB) 2007 - Round 1 - (2) Calvin Johnson (WR) 4 - Wide Receivers 2 - Cornerbacks 2 - Linebackers 2 - Offensive Tackles 1 - Quarterback The resemblance is uncanny!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Winfield is a corner. Also, it's not about what position you draft... it's about their talent and filling a need. Detroit hasn't been filling needs when they drafted all those WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Since the Buffalo Bills have taken DLinemen with our top pick in two drafts, we've used our top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 5 times. Since the Detroit Lions have taken DLinemen with their top pick in two drafts, they've used their top pick for Wideouts 4 times and Corners 3 times. The Super Bowl teams, who not coinicdentally led the NFL in sacks this past season, broke down this way: Wide Receivers: 4 Buff 4 Detroit 0 New England* 0 New York Cornerback 5 Buff 4 Detroit 1 New England* 2 New York If we continue the trend, I'm guessing we'll be looking for a new GM in 2009- Matt Millen should also be available and what a great fit that might be! Inaccurate post, iffy premise at best, and at worst, it matches your politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 1997 - Round 1 - (23) Antowain Smith (RB)1998 - Round 2 - (39) Sam Cowart (LB) 1999 - Round 1 - (23) Antoine Winfield (CB) Corrected 2000 - Round 1 - (26) Erik Flowers (DE) 2001 - Round 1 - (21) Nate Clements (CB) 2002 - Round 1 - (4) Mike Williams (OT) 2003 - Round 1 - (23) Willis McGahee (RB) 2004 - Round 1 - (13) Lee Evans (WR) 2005 - Round 2 - (55) Roscoe Parrish (WR) The only drafts of the current Bills front office: 2006 - Round 1 - (8) Donte Whitner (S) 2007 - Round 1 - (12) Marshawn Lynch (RB) So over the past eleven drafts 3 - Running Backs 2 - Wide Receivers 1 - Linebacker 1 - Defensive End 2 - Cornerback 1 - Offensive Tackle 1 - Safety Detroits last eleven drafts; 1997 - Round 1 - (5) Bryant Westbrook - (CB) 1998 - Round 1 - (20) Terry Fair - (CB) 1999 - Round 1 - (9) Chris Claiborne - (LB) 2000 - Round 1 - (20) Stokar McDougle (OT) 2001 - Round 1 - (18) Jeff Backus (OT) 2002 - Round 1 - (3) Joey Harrington (QB) 2003 - Round 1 - (2) Charles Rogers (WR) 2004 - Round 1 - (7) Roy Williams (WR) 2005 - Round 1 - (10) Mike Williams (WR) 2006 - Round 1 - (9) Ernie Sims (LB) 2007 - Round 1 - (2) Calvin Johnson (WR) 4 - Wide Receivers 2 - Cornerbacks 2 - Linebackers 2 - Offensive Tackles 1 - Quarterback The resemblance is uncanny!!! Winfield is a corner. Also, it's not about what position you draft... it's about their talent and filling a need. Detroit hasn't been filling needs when they drafted all those WR's. Thanks I corrected that. At least give me credit for looking all that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 So over the past eleven drafts 4 - Running Backs 2 - Wide Receivers 1 - Linebacker 1 - Defensive End 1 - Cornerback 1 - Offensive Tackle 1 - Safety Detroits last eleven drafts; 4 - Wide Receivers 2 - Cornerbacks 2 - Linebackers 2 - Offensive Tackles 1 - Quarterback The resemblance is uncanny!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Horrible post. Sorry I read this. I think we are all a liitle dumber after reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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