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You can speculate about the relative age of SilverNRed, but I really want to know how much an Angels' ticket was in 1993 - let alone 1983 ! :nana:

 

I don't know about 1993, but way back in 1983 we didn't even have tickets we just gave them pieces of slate we chiseled off of rocks from the quarry. Yabba dabba doo!

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No speculating... A little research points to he was 12... A wee 12... That must be ONE big jersey his uncle bought... Or else?... :lol::D Silver!

 

:w00t:

It was a hat, you dumbass! And stop trying to make my precious childhood memories into something bad. :lol:

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Hardcore reach? Was Marv in on this study?

 

Given the size of the reach the article writers made, the choice was between a marv comparison, or a reach-around comparison. I went with the latter.

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Given the size of the reach the article writers made, the choice was between a marv comparison, or a reach-around comparison. I went with the latter.

Given the set-up, that was like you setting me up for a one-timer and me burying it in the back of the net.

 

That's called teamwork.

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Given the set-up, that was like you setting me up for a one-timer and me burying it in the back of the net.

 

That's called teamwork.

 

Good. Assists are just as good as the goal. Now somehow we need to show the sabres forwards this.

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"As psychics, we have been predicting some significant weather shifts for some years now."

 

Well...they've got to be doing better than meterologists...

 

:lol:

 

Actually it's kind of an interesting read....once you get by that disclaimer.

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Worldwide, various governmental and private entities have misused the threat of environmental disaster as a means of imposing a level of planning on all human activities that many found unacceptable.

 

In fact, government, the corporate world and environmental groups should all have faced the real and imminent problems in a clear-headed and practical manner, instead of viewing them through the crazy lens of ideology, be it left or right. Instead, ideology has been placed above need in virtually every case, with the result that the worst possible situation has become true: human activities in the form of greenhouse gas emissions have been allowed to exacerbate a natural cycle, with results that promise to be devastating beyond imagination.

 

This is the most honest thing I have ever read on Global Warming (take out the "worst possible situation has become true" part), and I had to find it on a website for psychics.

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While I don't believe in "global warming" (it's more accurately called "climate change'), I fail to see the problem with reigning in consumption of non-renewable energy sources. I also fail to see the problem with reducing the amount of crap (more specifically, carbon) we put into the atmosphere.

 

If a side effect of such actions is a healthier environment, reduced incidences of cancer, healthier oceans, bays, and rivers, and ultimately a healthier planet, what's the problem? Every scientific organization, group, and entity has stated that human actions play a role in the climatic changes we've been experiencing over the past century, save for the American Association of Petroleum Geologists. And they don't have an agenda or anything... :blink:

 

But then again, it's kind of hard to take an organization too seriously when they proclaim a work of fiction (Crichton's State of Fear) worthy of their organization's 2006 Journalism Award.

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Just curious-

 

Increased airborne pollutants (sulfuric acid from coal and nitric acid from auto exhaust) have increased the amount and relative acidity of acid rain - measurements have been recorded indicating that the ph in rainfall can, and has, reached that of battery acid (~0.9). Aside from the harm it causes in ecosystems, when acid rain seeps into the ground it is corrosive to many rock types. When a sedimentary rock as prevalent as limestone, for example, is broken down by acid rain, it leads to faults slipping. No big deal if you're not on a fault line, right? Wrong. Undersea fault slips create tsunamis.

 

In addition to fault slippage, sink holes open in karst topography (which constitutes the topography of much of the south east). No big deal, unless a busy interstate bridge collapses during rush hour in Atlanta and you happen to be on it. Another result is increased volcanic activity. Not living in Hawaii or the Pacific Northwest, who cares, right? Google "Krakatoa" and "yellowstone super volcano"

 

What would be the harm in reducing the amount of pollutants in the air - and in turn make the planet a safer place?

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Good read in that it points out the absurd lengths the anti-global warming, big oil apologist crowd is willing to go to make any of their points stick. You can't on the one hand argue that there isn't a consensus (which there most definately is), then attempt to compare big-oil flunkies to Galileo because he dared to go up against the earth-at-the-center-of-the-universe nuts. Galileo was doing science at a time when religion and superstition ruled. I'm pretty sure most would agree what side he'd be on today.

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Good read in that it points out the absurd lengths the anti-global warming, big oil apologist crowd is willing to go to make any of their points stick. You can't on the one hand argue that there isn't a consensus (which there most definately is), then attempt to compare big-oil flunkies to Galileo because he dared to go up against the earth-at-the-center-of-the-universe nuts. Galileo was doing science at a time when religion and superstition ruled. I'm pretty sure most would agree what side he'd be on today.

Sure he would. I'm sure he'd trust the people who brought us the completely fallacious "Hockey Stick Graph" and garner more and more public money with every panic inducing, "sky is falling" proclamation.

 

"We don't trust big oil or big business, but we embrace the biggest, most corrupt business on the planet."

 

Sincerely,

Liberals

 

Now go back to the basement, toss on some punk rock, and pretend you actually stand up to the man.

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Sure he would. I'm sure he'd trust the people who brought us the completely fallacious "Hockey Stick Graph" and garner more and more public money with every panic inducing, "sky is falling" proclamation.

 

"We don't trust big oil or big business, but we embrace the biggest, most corrupt business on the planet."

 

Sincerely,

Liberals

 

Now go back to the basement, toss on some punk rock, and pretend you actually stand up to the man.

Yes, Darin, global warming is a world-wide liberal conspiracy perpetrated by the scientific elite. :beer:

 

This is only a debate here in the confines of the PPP. Scientists rarely agree on anything and the fact that we almost unanimously agree on this issue should tell people something. I await your insult and the subsequent pile-on by your suck-ups.

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Yes, Darin, global warming is a world-wide liberal conspiracy perpetrated by the scientific elite. :beer:

 

This is only a debate here in the confines of the PPP. Scientists rarely agree on anything and the fact that we almost unanimously agree on this issue should tell people something. I await your insult and the subsequent pile-on by your suck-ups.

 

While there isn't a debate on WHETHER warming is happening or not, there most CERTAINLY is no consensus on the cause.

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More and more it seems that global warming is being used as a vehicle to advance global socialism.

 

Should we be better stewards of the environment? Absolutely. Should we cripple the US economy in the process? Absolutely not. Until the leftwing enviro hippies can come to terms with that they should just eat their bean sprouts and STFU.

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More and more it seems that global warming is being used as a vehicle to advance global socialism.

 

As Lyndon Larouche just said today. Environmentalism is the legacy of Nazi gardening.

 

 

(No, I'm not making that up either.)

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Yes, Darin, global warming is a world-wide liberal conspiracy perpetrated by the scientific elite. :wallbash:

 

This is only a debate here in the confines of the PPP. Scientists rarely agree on anything and the fact that we almost unanimously agree on this issue should tell people something. I await your insult and the subsequent pile-on by your suck-ups.

 

Shall we rate the relative quality of the suckups for one side vs the other? You'd probably like life on the dark side much more.

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Yes, Darin, global warming is a world-wide liberal conspiracy perpetrated by the scientific elite. :wallbash:

 

This is only a debate here in the confines of the PPP. Scientists rarely agree on anything and the fact that we almost unanimously agree on this issue should tell people something. I await your insult and the subsequent pile-on by your suck-ups.

Don't you work for big pharma? I'm sorry, I'm going to go ahead and completely discount your opinion on anything scientific because you work for an industry that screws the little guy for money (to say nothing of your specialty not being climatology - not a dig, just a fact as I'm not a scientist at all).

 

Sound familiar?

 

I don't have an suck-ups, nor do I need anyone to help me point out how hypocritical you are. You know it.

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Don't you work for big pharma? I'm sorry, I'm going to go ahead and completely discount your opinion on anything scientific because you work for an industry that screws the little guy for money (to say nothing of your specialty not being climatology - not a dig, just a fact as I'm not a scientist at all).

 

Sound familiar?

 

I don't have an suck-ups, nor do I need anyone to help me point out how hypocritical you are. You know it.

Climate change/global warming isn't just studied by climatologists, and it's effect is measured across many scientific fields. The consensus has been formed via research from marine biologists, ecologists, microbiologists, geologists, epidemiologists and on and on. It's not just someone sticking a thermometer out a window in ten different cities across the globe. There's a review that just came out in The Lancet, one of the oldest and prestigious medical journals in the world. The first line in the abstract (Climate change and human health: present and future risks (Pubmed link. I'll get the whole review when I get to the lab):

 

There is near unanimous scientific consensus that greenhouse gas emissions generated by human activity will change Earth's climate.

 

It reviews the impact global warming is/will have on health risks. Like I said, the effect of global warming and the evidence for it will be measured/studied by more than climatologists.

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Climate change/global warming isn't just studied by climatologists, and it's effect is measured across many scientific fields.

Gee, really? Do they all have their hands out too (for good reason, as the endeavor is important)?

The consensus has been formed via research from marine biologists, ecologists, microbiologists, geologists, epidemiologists and on and on. It's not just someone sticking a thermometer out a window in ten different cities across the globe.

Nah, it's 2000 different locations (it used to be 6000), most of which used to be far away from civilization, but that's no longer the case. Add to that a whole bunch of different data that when really analyzed tells us we pretty much know dick, so we're depending on skewed computer modeling and "sky is falling" type theories. Probably not a big money grab, as science is noted for being so far above that. :thumbsup:

here's a review that just came out in The Lancet, one of the oldest and prestigious medical journals in the world. The first line in the abstract (Climate change and human health: present and future risks (Pubmed link. I'll get the whole review when I get to the lab):

It reviews the impact global warming is/will have on health risks. Like I said, the effect of global warming and the evidence for it will be measured/studied by more than climatologists.

"The recent (globally averaged) warming by 0.5 degrees C is partly attributable to such anthropogenic emissions."

 

Gee, that "partly" is super-scientific and seems so very concrete. I wonder why they didn't say "mostly?" Oh, because they don't really know. It's not science, it's SPECULATION based on very selective data groupings by people whose research depends on there being big problems.

 

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why NYC's temperatures are significantly warmer while Albany's are slightly cooler. Are they not sharing virtually the same atmosphere, being that they're what, 130 miles apart?

 

I'm sure climate change will have health affects. Some will be positive. Some will be negative. That's pretty much the nature of nature. You know, since the climate has been in constant flux since we've been smart enough to try and figure it out.

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