BillsGuyInMalta Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 And by "interesting" I dont mean "OMGZ, The Bills gotta sign him!1!1!!!1!" I just mean they are at least known players. Some, as you'll see, even played some seasons in Buffalo. Here are some of the cuts so far... Courtney Watson LB (Texans) Antowain Smith RB (Texans) David Loverne OL (Texans) Sam Cowart LB (Texans) Eric Warfield CB (Patriots) Eddie Freeman DE (Patriots) Chad Brown LB (Patriots) Monty Beisel LB (Patriots) Matthew Rice DE (Rams) Charles Rogers WR (Lions...according to ESPNews soon to be cut) From what I can see using KFFL, only the Texans, Patriots, Rams and Bears have swung the axe this early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Charles Rogers will def get work soon somewhere--maybe Chi, or GB. I think he may stay in the NFC Norris division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Rogers is the only one on that list worth considering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A fascinating list. I have to admit, when I read it I had a pang of regret for Sam Cowart. He was never the same after Frank Freaking Middleton ended his season in Tampa in 2000. Thus a career with so much promise ends on the cut list. It is a cruel world. And by "interesting" I dont mean "OMGZ, The Bills gotta sign him!1!1!!!1!" I just mean they are at least known players. Some, as you'll see, even played some seasons in Buffalo. Here are some of the cuts so far... Courtney Watson LB (Texans) Antowain Smith RB (Texans) David Loverne OL (Texans) Sam Cowart LB (Texans) Eric Warfield CB (Patriots) Eddie Freeman DE (Patriots) Chad Brown LB (Patriots) Monty Beisel LB (Patriots) Matthew Rice DE (Rams) Charles Rogers WR (Lions...according to ESPNews soon to be cut) From what I can see using KFFL, only the Texans, Patriots, Rams and Bears have swung the axe this early. 759014[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Didn't Rogers break his collar bone twice already? That's one of those injuries that keeps reoccuring throughout someone's career. If he can't stay healthy for 16 games, what good is he to the Bills? He's just a name that was once a first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A fascinating list. I have to admit, when I read it I had a pang of regret for Sam Cowart. He was never the same after Frank Freaking Middleton ended his season in Tampa in 2000. Thus a career with so much promise ends on the cut list. It is a cruel world. 759022[/snapback] I agree on Cowart. He was one of my favorite Bills when he was here and it was sad to see him go. What could have been... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 What the hell is it with Charlie Rogers? I think he was a second round pick two years ago, no? Could he be that bad or is it just the new coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 What the hell is it with Charlie Rogers? I think he was a second round pick two years ago, no? Could he be that bad or is it just the new coach? 759053[/snapback] Actually he was like the 4th pick overall in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted September 1, 2006 Author Share Posted September 1, 2006 It was worse than that. Rogers was the #2 overall pick in 03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Didn't Rogers break his collar bone twice already? That's one of those injuries that keeps reoccuring throughout someone's career. If he can't stay healthy for 16 games, what good is he to the Bills? He's just a name that was once a first round pick. 759029[/snapback] the whole "but...but...but...I've heard of him" jokes aside, he has shown he has some talent. if he checks out medically, he might actually be an upgrade over Price/Reed/Aiken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 It was worse than that. Rogers was the #2 overall pick in 03. 759058[/snapback] Okay. But is he THAT bad? Or was it a bad system for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Okay. But is he THAT bad? Or was it a bad system for him? 759062[/snapback] He's not bad -- he just can't stay healthy. He hasn't made it through a full season yet, and with that sort of injury, he likely never will. It's a shame because he has oodles of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 He's not bad -- he just can't stay healthy. He hasn't made it through a full season yet, and with that sort of injury, he likely never will. It's a shame because he has oodles of talent. 759064[/snapback] Roger. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Flanders Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Okay. But is he THAT bad? Or was it a bad system for him? 759062[/snapback] If the Lion's don't want you chances are you're not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Roger. Thanks. 759065[/snapback] No problem. Just to put it into perspective. He has played in 15 games in 3 seasons. The most he's played were 9 last year. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Apparently Rogers is a bit of a head case and not a team player. I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A change of scenery may do Rogers well. Probably a better fit with a stronger head coach than Juron. But certainly his potential and size would be welcomed. However we dont have room on the roster to waste hoping he can resurect his career. Aiken vs. Rogers...gotta keep aiken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Apparently Rogers is a bit of a head case and not a team player. I'll pass. 759071[/snapback] Is that per Mewelde Moore, who used to be there? Seems he said bad things about Losman also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Roger. Thanks. 759065[/snapback] Roger, Roger. What's our Vector Victor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Roger, Roger. What's our Vector Victor? 759078[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 And by "interesting" I dont mean "OMGZ, The Bills gotta sign him!1!1!!!1!" I just mean they are at least known players. Some, as you'll see, even played some seasons in Buffalo. Here are some of the cuts so far... Courtney Watson LB (Texans) Antowain Smith RB (Texans) David Loverne OL (Texans) Sam Cowart LB (Texans) Eric Warfield CB (Patriots) Eddie Freeman DE (Patriots) Chad Brown LB (Patriots) Monty Beisel LB (Patriots) Matthew Rice DE (Rams) Charles Rogers WR (Lions...according to ESPNews soon to be cut) From what I can see using KFFL, only the Texans, Patriots, Rams and Bears have swung the axe this early. 759014[/snapback] The Patriots cut one of their starting ILBs? Is this so that Mr. Seau can start or something? What the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Roger, Roger. What's our Vector Victor? 759078[/snapback] "Sir, we have Dr. Hamm on line five and the Mayo Clinic on three." "Fine. Give me Hamm on five and hold the Mayo." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Toboggan M.D Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 wow the patriots cut monty biesel? thats actually quite surprising. we should bring him in for a workout so he can tell us the patriots gameplan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I remember reading that if rogers did get cut the team that picked him up would be on the hook for 1 year 750k. The reward in this case seriously outweighs the risk, and the reward that he might be able to stay healthy. Rogers/Evans. Just for that alone I'd pursure it, worst case it doesnt work out no harm no foul. We really have nothing to lose there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 In Charles Roger' case, if Mike Martz doesn't want you, you are probably not all that good. I'm actually surprised with the A. Smith cut. The Texans lost Davis to injury already and they have 2 rooks and Morency now. and BTW, C. Watson must be terrible. (I'm talking about Courtney, not Chris, but I guess it fits them both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 A change of scenery may do Rogers well. Probably a better fit with a stronger head coach than Juron. But certainly his potential and size would be welcomed. However we dont have room on the roster to waste hoping he can resurect his career. Aiken vs. Rogers...gotta keep aiken. 759075[/snapback] Sounds like he needs to go to Dallas and the tutelage of one TO will put him on the right track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 In Charles Roger' case, if Mike Martz doesn't want you, you are probably not all that good. I'm actually surprised with the A. Smith cut. The Texans lost Davis to injury already and they have 2 rooks and Morency now. and BTW, C. Watson must be terrible. (I'm talking about Courtney, not Chris, but I guess it fits them both) 759098[/snapback] So it's unanimous, C. Watson sucks! Anyone with the surname Watson take not... no naming your kid Chris, Colin, Cathy, Charlie or anything with a "C" otherwise you're kid will likely suck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I remember reading that if rogers did get cut the team that picked him up would be on the hook for 1 year 750k. The reward in this case seriously outweighs the risk, and the reward that he might be able to stay healthy. Rogers/Evans. Just for that alone I'd pursure it, worst case it doesnt work out no harm no foul. We really have nothing to lose there. 759085[/snapback] But there is a risk besides finanacial. You sign Rogers that means you have to cut one of the young WRs like Wilson, Aiken, Davis etc. Guys who have proven they can stay healthy. Then, when you get Rogers and he gets hurt, which he undoubtedly will, you're screwed. I would rather have someone I know can hold up physically for 16 games and has potential to get better than someone who I know can't hold up for 16 games and has possibly more potential. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStuckonStupid Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 A change of scenery may do Rogers well. Probably a better fit with a stronger head coach than Juron. But certainly his potential and size would be welcomed. However we dont have room on the roster to waste hoping he can resurect his career. Aiken vs. Rogers...gotta keep aiken. 759075[/snapback] if i am not mistaken juron was the head coach in Det. last year. I don't think a change to our scenery will do Rogers any good and probaly not a Marv Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 if i am not mistaken juron was the head coach in Det. last year. I don't think a change to our scenery will do Rogers any good and probaly not a Marv Guy. 759162[/snapback] Jauron was interim HC after Mariuci was fired midseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotStuckonStupid Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i knew that but the the same principal applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 But there is a risk besides finanacial. You sign Rogers that means you have to cut one of the young WRs like Wilson, Aiken, Davis etc. Guys who have proven they can stay healthy. 759147[/snapback] IMO Wilson will get cut anyway and put on PS. Either Aiken or Davis will prolly also be cut. In the coming days other WRs on the same level as Aiken and Davis will also get cut and probably won't catch on with another NFL team Even if Rogers got hurt we would always have the option to promote Wilson or re-sign Aiken/Davis/similar WR The potential reward outweighs the risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Charlie Rogers to the Patriots. Brady will make him a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Is that per Mewelde Moore, who used to be there? Seems he said bad things about Losman also. 759077[/snapback] Right division, wrong team. Moore plays with the Vikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Its hard to say how good he was considering he never had anyone that could get the ball to him and heallth factors, DJ having been coaching for the lions last year should have a great deal of insight on this player. I will trust his judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 More upcoming cuts: Denver Broncos QB Bradlee Van Pelt Texans QB Cody Pickett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 The Patriots cut one of their starting ILBs? Is this so that Mr. Seau can start or something? What the hell. 759080[/snapback] This is so Teddy Bruschi can play all three linebacker slots simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Charlie Rogers to the Patriots. Brady will make him a superstar. Yep, just like he did with his old college teammate David Terrell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 This is so Teddy Bruschi can play all three linebacker slots simultaneously. 759232[/snapback] While injured.....and concurrently raising Lazarus from the dead..all while being followed by Joe Theismann and a camera crew for top rated network ESPN - Bruschi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Yep, just like he did with his old college teammate David Terrell. 759242[/snapback] Michigan receivers are getting a rep like Texas Offensive Tackles or Penn State Tailbacks (I know I just made a bunch of people mad)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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