BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 ...15-21, 169 yards in one half of play against the Packers Saturday. He threw a 22-yard touchdown pass (after a 17-yard TD pass was ruled out of bounds) on his first drive. Led an 86-yard drive to TD in second quarter. QB rating for the game: 111.0 It's just one game, but the guy is going to be good. It really annoyed me to hear people on the board (who prabably never saw him play) call him a "bust." 742911[/snapback] Don't really have an opinion on P. Rivers but the Packers are the only team on the Bills schedule that I count as a sure win. When he performs against Denver and Pittsburgh like he did against the mighty Pack then you can start preparing his bust for Canton.... but the first preseason game .. at home.. against the Packers ..Let's take a deep breath and let the season unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. K Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share Posted November 12, 2006 THIS IS NOT A POST ABOUT JP LOSMAN. Before the season started I had a back-and-forth on this board with someone who called Rivers a "bust." I took issue with this on the grounds that he had only played in one game before this season, so how could he be a bust, but also that he had been one of the most amazing QBs I had ever seen while in college, gutsy and smart, and I would believe he would make it in the pros until he proved me wrong. The Chargers come from 21-0 and 28-7 deficits to win 49-41 today. In this season of our discontent I have to say that it gives me pleasure that Rivers is doing so well for the them. THAT'S ALL. YOU MAY RESUME YOUR BITCHING, ALREADY IN PROGRESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 THIS IS NOT A POST ABOUT JP LOSMAN. Before the season started I had a back-and-forth on this board with someone who called Rivers a "bust." I took issue with this on the grounds that he had only played in one game before this season, so how could he be a bust, but also that he had been one of the most amazing QBs I had ever seen while in college, gutsy and smart, and I would believe he would make it in the pros until he proved me wrong. The Chargers come from 21-0 and 28-7 deficits to win 49-41 today. In this season of our discontent I have to say that it gives me pleasure that Rivers is doing so well for the them. THAT'S ALL. YOU MAY RESUME YOUR BITCHING, ALREADY IN PROGRESS. 834138[/snapback] How did we NOT get Brees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbfan54 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 People hear call Rivers a game manager but they fail to realize is that is what Marty ball is all about. As long old marty is coach the only time offense is opened up is when the team is losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Phillip Rivers is light years beyond what even I expected. His best play of the game was his last td the scramble out and little pitch to Brandon Manumaleuna. Defintely showing why he drafted as high as he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 How did we NOT get Brees? 834157[/snapback] you really think brees would be doing better behind this line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Guess what, if Rivers were on the Bills we'd be alot better. I'm not saying 7-2 better but comparing Rivers and Losman is night and day. Rivers is SO much better....as is Romo, etc.. The only guy Losman might be better than right now is Andrew Walter and a fading fast Mark Brunnell (Brunell has had a good career though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 you really think brees would be doing better behind this line 834177[/snapback] Better then Losman. Brees can at least feel pressure. Sorry I know the line is bad, the qb also plays a huge part. However as bills fan we're so used to seeing bad qb play we forget what a good qb can do, and make up an excuse factory in order to feel better about the team. Not everything is the line. It's also the qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantankerous Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 you really think brees would be doing better behind this line 834177[/snapback] You'd be retarded to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 you really think brees would be doing better behind this line 834177[/snapback] Yes. And at least then we would know that when we actually GET a line someday--that we would have a QB to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I don't think there's a fan on this board that wouldn't want to see JP get traded to the chargers straight up for Rivers. Won't happen, but JP has shown me enough to know what kind of quarterback he is. He's Jake Plummer in an offense that won't let him run around and try to make plays. He's not very accurate (yet), doesn't see the field well (yet) and makes dubious decisions in critical situations (still). I like the kid, but I do believe we have enough data to confirm that he's not likely to ever be the kind of stud that can put the team on his back and win the game with his own vision and decisions, ala Manning, Brady, Elway, Kelly, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTheRealDeal07 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Im not sure why everybody keeps going with the "Look at what Manning/Rivers/Ben are doing", JP was a BORDERLINE 1st rounder who had work in progress written all over him, all three of the other QB's had monster college careers and were more than 1/2 year starters like JP was. They all have FAR SUPERIOR supporting casts and coaches around them as well, JP may not be the guy but this ORGANIZATION has done NOTHING to help his progress, at all, and if you don't believe that your a complete fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluv Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I don't think there's a fan on this board that wouldn't want to see JP get traded to the chargers straight up for Rivers. Won't happen, but JP has shown me enough to know what kind of quarterback he is. He's Jake Plummer in an offense that won't let him run around and try to make plays. He's not very accurate (yet), doesn't see the field well (yet) and makes dubious decisions in critical situations (still). I like the kid, but I do believe we have enough data to confirm that he's not likely to ever be the kind of stud that can put the team on his back and win the game with his own vision and decisions, ala Manning, Brady, Elway, Kelly, etc. 834292[/snapback] I don't think accuracy has been an issue for JP this year. He hasn't missed many open receivers once he has had time to set his feet and make up his mind to throw the ball. A lot of his haters are too blind $ fail to see that. His biggest issue is the offensive team as a whole: no identity or focus. There is no chemistry whatsoever. I mean even the game against the Jets where both JP and WM had big stat days but we lost, we never had any chemistry in that game just hit or miss. In the beginning of games where plays are scripted Fairchild does a decent job. He can call a few good plays but he is not a good strategist or putting his playmaker in position to make plays. For instance, since defenses focus on taking Evans out the game, he should be used more as a decoy. The fact that teams pack 7 or more defenders at the line of scrimmage on early downs knowing our percentages to run, we should make teams pay for that more and call more playactions. I hate to keep making up excuses for JP but what more can he do when he is constantly left to bail us out on 3rd down. And on top of that 60% of those attempts a missed blocking assignment allows a defender to run free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Pipe Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I believe the talent evaluators in San Diego use to work for one, Mr. Ralph Wilson. Like I have said before, cry all you want about the Bills problems today, they all start and end with Mr. Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 You'd be retarded to think otherwise. 834195[/snapback] You'd be remiss to not realize that the Brees of three/four years ago is a different Brees than the one of today. I'd rather see the QB we have develop like Brees did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Omg you people make me sick. The reason that the chargers came back today.... hmm..... could it be........ TOMLINSON'S 4 TOUCHDOWNS????? Philip Rivers has by far the best RB in the league, he does everything... runs, catches, and throws. All he has to do is hand the ball off, and when he has to pass..... he just throws it to one of the best TE's in the game..... but you're right.... he's an outstanding QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Omg you people make me sick. The reason that the chargers came back today.... hmm..... could it be........ TOMLINSON'S 4 TOUCHDOWNS????? Philip Rivers has by far the best RB in the league, he does everything... runs, catches, and throws. All he has to do is hand the ball off, and when he has to pass..... he just throws it to one of the best TE's in the game..... but you're right.... he's an outstanding QB 834613[/snapback] Gosh, we're sorry. I guess that 24 for 36, 337 yds, 3 td's, zero int's in a tough road environment was all LT. LT is awesome don't get me wrong, but Rivers is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 you really think brees would be doing better behind this line 834177[/snapback] You think Kliff Kingsbury could do much worse than JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 You think Kliff Kingsbury could do much worse than JP? 834783[/snapback] Kingsbury would probably have about 3,500 yards and 20 TDs by now behind this line. Probably rush for another 4 or 5 scores, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Gosh, we're sorry. I guess that 24 for 36, 337 yds, 3 td's, zero int's in a tough road environment was all LT. LT is awesome don't get me wrong, but Rivers is good. 834624[/snapback] But LT had 4 TD's! 4! Don't argue with the fantasy geeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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