JPTheRealDeal07

I actually had a conversation with a friend of mine over drafting a DT early, he was for it, and I said we already have like 5 on the roster, I can't see us drafting a 6th, and his response was classic " Yeah your right, who needs a defensive tackle with a group like that." Hope you catch the sarcasm ha

For anyone who cares and is local to Syracuse, Thurman will be at ENV collectibles in Carousel Mall signing autographs on September 29th i think, don't quote on that exact date, but for anybody interested I'll verify, but he's definetly going to be there sometime around then, I saw the sign when I picked up my Sabres jersey last week

Pfff, anybody who thinks Bledsoe's career was "mediocre" is an absolute fool,14 year vet, top 10 in three major passing categories, 4 pro bowls, trip to a superbowl, if that's mediocre, how good to you have to be to have a "good" career? He had his faults, like anyone, and they were exposed far more often late in his career. A nice guy(Who I've met), and a good player, hall of famer? Doubtful, but, he's got nothing to feel bad about. I'll miss ol' Drew

For the sake of this message board being a revolving door of the same topic I just wish this guy would get traded to somebody already so we can just start 252352 draft threads.....As if that isnt happening already too...

He's not the same guy he was his freshmen year. You draft a guy on who he is NOW, I don't think the team that drafts AP is going to be raving about what he did 3 years ago.

Totally agree, his freshmen year doesnt mean nearly as much as his junior, or sophmore season did in terms of scouts. This is who is he NOW, not then.

Im not trying to bash your post, I may have come off that way but not at all. I understand where your coming from, I shouldn't have said his college career has NO relevance, but I think in terms of this deal and most, if the guy has had enough NFL exposure(WHich I think Turner has, considering he wasn't just a guy who played during blowouts) you can forget the college tapes. And considering you got to see him live against your boys at school you probably have seen more of him than most, I actually had him and LT on my fantasy team so I watched alot of their games. I like the player, alot, but, for the right price.

College-NFL, different animals. I could see if the guy was a rookie last year, but he's been around for 3 years now, it's safe to say what he did back at Northern Illinois in the powehouse conference they play in is pretty much irrelevant. Alot of guys carry the load in college and can't in the NFL, I'm sorry but it's just useless. Marv didn't look at any Northern Illinois tape, that isn't what struck his fancy in Turner, he watched him play in the NFL, and he's gotten enough carries for scouts to see what type of runner he is and how that forecasts into a full time role. Do you think prior to acquiring LaMont Jordan the Raiders called Ralph Freidgen and asked for game film? Pfff

Your talking about a guy who's coming out this year and a guy who came out 3 years ago. Do you really think anybody thinking of trading for MT is looking at his Northern Illinois tapes? I mean get real, what he did then means jack. And what did I do in college? Pfff, I produced, that's all I'll say

Who cares how he "looked" in college against a crap Maryland team. They had some good backers'? That's great, what he did in college means as much as what I did in college

I just hope Marv realizes we are the ones with the upper hand here, this guy walks next year regardless, and there are other backs in this draft that can be had. No need to give too much, I say a 3rd and 4th, and I liked the idea of swapping 2nd rounders and giving them a higher 3rd.

We also have plenty of holes to fill, and we can't exactly be throwing away our first day draft picks. I'm firmly against anything involving 1st rounders, no swap, nothing. Here's the problem, anything more than a pair of 3rd's like we got for McGahee and we look stupid, how can we give up as much or more to a guy who's produced half as much as Willis had and is coming off a whopping 80 carry season. I tell AJ Smith we'll give him a 3rd and a 4th, and if he doesn't like it he can shove it up his a$$ and watch Turner walk next year for nothing. No need feeding AFC powerhouses with more picks for guys they are going to lose anyways.

Not sure, don't really care either way. It's a message board, feel free to express your thoughts. But, in regard to all of this " He's an unproven backup", these college kids are more unproven. Is he great? Probably not, but he could be. But what we do know is that he's better than ANYONE we have on the roster and with him it's one less thing we need to address in the draft. For the right price, I'd love him, but anything that involves a 1st round pick or swapping picks is absurd, you can't trade away a PROVEN back like McGahee for a pair of 3rds and then trade for a guy like Turner for more than that. It's things like that that will make ESPN continue to rip the moves we make

No, no Gladiators for me, some Blood Diamond and Grandma's Boy

ha no but close, blockbuster

Whoa posted and left to come back to this, guess I started quite a stir. It's just what I was told, had no confirmation, so I asked, all of you guys flipping balls over these "rumor" threads need to relax, this is a message board, probably a good place to talk about stuff like this. Stop crying.

16 million guarenteed...Buddy of mine told me Len Pasquarelli reported deal is about done. Our 1st and 4th rounder this year for Turner, he'll sign a contract worth around 37 million....Please tell me it's a farce

I like Turner, think he's a good back but a 1st and a 3rd is wayyyy too much. No way I want this deal done, I'd rather draft Lynch or AP. I really hope we don't get fleeced again

I"m all for Marshawn Lynch, even more so than Peterson but, have we shown any real interest in either of these guys? I know we've met with guys like Robert Meachem, what about Marshawn? Is this a realistic possibility or just us Bills fans being hopeful

Adam Carriker #6?

Look I think Arizona's Chris Henry is a hell of a specimen, but despite all of his size and speed, he's done nothing in his college career that would make anyone think he'll be better than Willis, say what you want about his YPC watch the games, he didn't exactly have enormous holes to run through. Us Bills fans, pff, spoiled by Thurman's greatness? We've now run out of town two good RBs(Travis Henry, Willis) who at the time we all ripped apart as being overrated and blah blah. I really hope this deal works out

Im sorry I'm not excited about this deal. Mark my words, Mcgahee will have a career year for Baltimore. And what did we get? A LOW 3rd rounder and a 7th rounder, and probably another low 3rd rounder next year? How can Wes Welker and Thomas Jones' fetch you a 2nd rounder but McGahee can't manage that? If we sign Corey Dillon i'll kill myself, you know things are bad if your almost hoping Chris Brown comes to play. And on top of this huge hole we now have at RB, we still need loads of help at CB, LB, DL, WR, TE......I love the Bills and always will but this is hard to swallow, I get the whole "Get 3 picks for a guy who wouldnt be here next year anyways" but who's to say that? McGahee said he would have liked to stay if the price was right, I swear, if we give some bum FA runner a contract somewhat to as much as Willis gets from the Ravens I'm done

Crowell played MLB in college and it's still up in the air whether he'll make the move inside or not. The OLB class seems to be a little bit deeper in terms of players that we're looking for and need for the cover 2, so why not just wait on drafting a linebacker in the first(And Willis will ABSOLUTELY be there at 12) and pick up the DL/CB or trade down for more picks? It makes alot more sense. I like Willis and wouldn't mind drafting him with our 1st rounder, but no way at 12. I don't care how much we like him.

The OL works as a unit, if you lack chemistry at one spot they all suffer. Nobody on the Raiders OL can be fairly assessed from last years play. Walker is a major improvement, how much? We'll find out. End of story

I agree it's funny that everybody called Ralph out for being too frugal and saying he won't spend any money, and as soon as he does now we overpaid for everybody. Look around the NFL, the money being tossed around is sick, whatever we sign guys for,that's their going rate. End of story. Love the Dockery pick, he's young, and brings a new element to our line. As for Walker, look, I remember him coming out of Cal,l and the story was for a guy 6 foot 8 and 340 some odd pounds, he just doesn't play like it. Playing for the Raiders probably doesn't help, but, this guy has underchieved for the most part and giving him 5 years and 25 million worries me. Is he another Mike Williams? Minus the top 5 hype? Now we'll see what McNally can do, Marv has given him plenty to work with. I just hope Walker and do his part.