JimBob2232 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/jaguars/index.html After the Bills cut OT Mike Williams this offseason, the Jaguars signed him and gave him a $1.4 million bonus. But Williams weighed almost 400 pounds as recently as early June. The Jaguars are very disappointed in him and might opt to cut their losses in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/jaguars/index.htmlAfter the Bills cut OT Mike Williams this offseason, the Jaguars signed him and gave him a $1.4 million bonus. But Williams weighed almost 400 pounds as recently as early June. The Jaguars are very disappointed in him and might opt to cut their losses in camp. 721589[/snapback] The Bucs must be awfully disappointed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemhoff Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Here we go again... Seriously, 400lbs. I cannot believe that they gave him that much in a SB. Funding Big Mike's trips to Ponderosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 WORST.....DRAFT PICK.....EVER! thank you Comic Book Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 A few years ago one of the preview magazines had worst first picks in the entire draft-Walt Patulski "won". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 He's pulling out all the cupcakes to get his name up there with Ryan Leaf, Tony Mandrich, etc. in biggest bust ever superstardom. 721601[/snapback] I disagree. While he was the 4th pick taken in a Draft he was not nearly as highly touted as Mandarich (one of the best OL prospects ever) and Leaf (considered by some as the top pick over Manning). Shoot. I'd say even Akili Smith, Steve Entman (sp? U of Wash DL), and Desond Howard were bigger busts... That said, Mike Williams was thought of by most to be a "safe" as a ROT for a decade. He is a big (in more then one way) bust. Too bad b/c you can tell he is a really good guy that just did not have it mentally (toughness) to make it in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDRupp Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I disagree. While he was the 4th pick taken in a Draft he was not nearly as highly touted as Mandarich (one of the best OL prospects ever) and Leaf (considered by some as the top pick over Manning). Shoot. I'd say even Akili Smith, Steve Entman (sp? U of Wash DL), and Desond Howard were bigger busts... That said, Mike Williams was thought of by most to be a "safe" as a ROT for a decade. He is a big (in more then one way) bust. Too bad b/c you can tell he is a really good guy that just did not have it mentally (toughness) to make it in the NFL. 721603[/snapback] I see now that you were kidding a bit, so apologies for replying to my own posts but I believe you are right. He is trying BIG(Mike)-time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyBillsFan Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 4 Buffalo Mike Williams T Texas 36 Buffalo Josh Reed WR Louisiana State 97 Buffalo Coy Wire SS Stanford 139 Buffalo Justin Bannan DT Colorado 176 Buffalo Kevin Thomas CB Nevada-Las Vegas 215 Buffalo Mike Pucillo C Auburn Prospect Profile Mike Williams Position: Offensive Tackle College: Texas Height: 6-6 Weight: 375 Hometown: The Colony, Texas Career Notes | Agility | High School | Personal | Stats ANALYSIS Positives: Wide-body type with a thick chest and big arms … Has that quick twitch movement ability coming out of his stance, showing nimble feet and good hand rise and explosion … Hits defenders instantly coming off the ball, delivering power behind his arm swipes … Gains position and sustains blocks with a wide leg base and arms extended … Has the leg drive to steer and pin-block the defender … Shows very good knee bend for a player his size … Shows the agility to pull and accelerate at the point of attack … Uses his hands properly to turn the defender and makes smooth adjustments in space to cut off and wall off the linebackers … Very quick to set and extend his hands, delivering a forceful punch and jab on the pass rusher … Has the lateral slide needed to recover when changing direction … Competes and works hard in the weight room … Works well with the offensive guard in picking up stunts with ease … Shuffles his feet well setting up in pass protection. Negatives: Needs to get his weight to the 340-pound area in order to maintain stamina … Relies more on power than technique, lacking the true explosion you would want from someone his size coming off the snap … Needs to improve his footwork a bit, as he seems hesitant redirecting to inside moves … Will punch and jab at defenders rather than trying to push off … Has good trap-block ability, but has not been used much to pull … Overextends at times, but has the quickness to recover. CAREER NOTES Physical, athletic and intelligent lineman who developed into one of the nation's premier offensive tackles in 2001 … Dominating blocker who is unbelievably light on his feet for his size … "The sky's the limit for Mike and he has a chance to be one of the great ones," offensive coordinator Greg Davis said … Moved into the starting lineup at right tackle in the later part of his sophomore year … Has allowed only two quarterback sacks in 28 career starts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 SEASON Earned first-team All-America honors from The NFL Draft Report, the American Football Coaches, Walter Camp Football Foundation and Football News, adding second-team accolades from the Associated Press and The Sporting News … First-team All-Big 12 Conference choice … Shared UT's Outstanding Offensive Lineman Award … Earned a spot on Playboy's prestigious All-America team … Collected 131 key blocks (67 knockdowns, 64 pancakes) and was responsible for 18 touchdown runs, 34 explosive plays (run or pass of 12-plus yards) and 24-of-25 third-and-short conversions … Cleared the way for UT's seventh consecutive 1,000-yard rusher (Cedric Benson, 1,053 yards) … Helped pave the way for seven individual 100-yard rushers (Ivan Williams: 103 at Houston, 152 vs. Texas Tech; Benson: 131 at Oklahoma State, 100 vs. Colorado, 157 at Missouri, 108 at Baylor, 213 vs. Kansas) … Allowed only one sack as he helped lead a UT offense that led the Big 12 Conference and ranked sixth nationally in scoring offense (39.2 ppg) … Started every game at right offensive tackle. New Mexico State - Shared Player of the Game honors as he posted five knockdowns and nine pancakes, clearing a rush lane used by tailback Ivan Williams for a 4-yard touchdown run as the offense generated 399 yards. Houston - Added nine knockdowns and five pancakes … Cut blocked defensive tackle Lee Ingersoll on a 92-yard touchdown bomb from QB Chris Simms to B.J. Johnson as the team amassed 534 yards. Texas Tech - Collected two pancakes and nine knockdowns … Flattened safety Kevin Curtis as Simms skipped around the right side for a 1-yard scoring run and the Long- horns totaled 433 yards, but suffered a right knee sprain (anterior cruciate ligament). Oklahoma State - Added eight knockdowns and seven pancakes for an offense that picked up 241 yards rushing … Leveled linebacker Dwayne Levels on Simms' 27-yard scoring strike to Brock Edwards. Missouri - Had a season-high 10 pancakes and delivered three knockdowns … Brought down linebacker Jamonte Robertson on an 8-yard touchdown toss from Simms to Roy Williams as the offense accounted for 421 yards. Kansas - Helped the offense generate a season-high 606 yards as he made seven pancakes and six knockdowns. Texas A&M - Had six knockdowns and seven pancakes … Took down defensive end Rocky Bernard twice in the fourth quarter with touchdown-resulting blocks on runs of 5 and 11 yards by Cedric Benson. Colorado (Big 12 Championship) - Left in the second quarter with a shoulder sprain. Washington (Holiday Bowl) - Made seven knockdowns and five pancakes … Leveled nose guard Larry Tripplett on a 1-yard scoring plunge by Ivan Williams as the offense amassed 592 yards. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2000 SEASON All-Big 12 Conference second-team choice by the Houston Chronicle, earning honorable mention from the league's coaches … Played in every game, starting the final 10 regular-season contests and the Holiday Bowl at right tackle … Shared UT's Outstanding Offensive Lineman Award … Second among the offensive linemen with 36 pancakes and 38 knockdowns as he allowed only one quarterback sack … Helped set the tone for UT to rush for 1,206 yards (201 ypg) during the final six regular-season games and paved the way for a Longhorns offense that averaged 38.6 points per game (eighth NCAA), 439.0 yards per contest (14th NCAA) and a school-record 293.5 passing yards per game (14th NCAA) … Was a key member of a young line that opened holes for UT's sixth consecutive 1,000-yard rusher (Hodges Mitchell/1,118 yards). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1999 SEASON Played in every game, including the Cotton Bowl, on the offensive line and on special teams … Started four contests at right tackle … Earned his first career start at Rutgers due to Leonard Davis' ankle injury … Also started vs. Rice, Baylor and Kansas State … His run blocking helped pave the way for Hodges Mitchell to post the fifth-highest rushing total (1,343) in school history … Provided relief to an offensive line that helped produce four of the top 30 total offense outputs in school history (Texas Tech/504; Oklahoma/553; Baylor/ 586; Stanford/558) … Played more than 650 snaps during the season. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1998 SEASON Played in all 12 games, including the Cotton Bowl, either on offense, goal-line defense or on special teams as a true freshman … Saw action in eight games at offensive tackle and all 12 on special teams … Aided the offensive line in paving the way for Ricky Williams to lead the nation in rushing for the second straight year with a UT-record 2,124 yards (No. 6 on the NCAA all-time list). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AGILITY TESTS 5.3 in the 40-yard dash … 30-inch vertical jump … 8'5" broad jump … Bench presses 225 pounds 29 times … 435-pound bench press … 500-pound squat … 365-pound power clean … 33 1/2-inch arm length … 9 1/4-inch hands … Right-handed. HIGH SCHOOL Two-way lineman at The Colony (Texas) High … Named the District Defensive Player of the Year as a senior … Earned second-team Texas 5A All-State honors that season … Did not allow a sack as an offensive tackle as a senior … Recorded 67 tackles and six sacks as a defensive tackle in 1997 … Also caused three fumbles and recovered three fumbles as a senior at that position … Posted 75 tackles during his sophomore and junior seasons combined … Member of the track team. PERSONAL Youth and Community Studies major … Works at youth football camps during the summer … Father ran track at Arkansas State … Born Michael D. Williams on Jan. 11, 1980 in Dallas, Texas … Resides in The Colony, Texas. STATS BLOCKING STATS YEAR GM SGP PLAYS KB TDB DWF PRS SKA High Grade Game 2000 11 82.0 773 74 8 14 4 1 90 percent vs. Oklahoma State 2001 12 85.4 866 131 18 22 1 1 97 percent vs. Texas A&M TOTAL 23 83.8 1639 205 26 36 5 2 97 percent vs. Texas A&M BLOCKING STATISTICS … Based on review of game film by our scouting department … SGP-season grade percentage … GM-games played … PLAY-amount of snaps played in … KB-key blocks (pancake/ knockdowns) … TDB-touchdown resulting blocks … DWF-downfield blocks … PRS-pressures allowed … SKA-sacks allowed … High Grade Game-best graded game for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 hmmmm, a cut o-lineman? maybe the bills should look into picking him up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 4 Buffalo Mike Williams T Texas 36 Buffalo Josh Reed WR Louisiana State 97 Buffalo Coy Wire SS Stanford 139 Buffalo Justin Bannan DT Colorado 176 Buffalo Kevin Thomas CB Nevada-Las Vegas 215 Buffalo Mike Pucillo C Auburn . 721647[/snapback] Hell of a draft for ol'Whitey, eh? And they rip Marv? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 hmmmm, a cut o-lineman? maybe the bills should look into picking him up? 721648[/snapback] Us no, but watch Mullarkey and the 'Fins pick him up. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Us no, but watch Mullarkey and the 'Fins pick him up. PTR 721658[/snapback] I hear the Bucs are unhappy with Ross Verba... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I disagree. While he was the 4th pick taken in a Draft he was not nearly as highly touted as Mandarich (one of the best OL prospects ever) and Leaf (considered by some as the top pick over Manning). Shoot. I'd say even Akili Smith, Steve Entman (sp? U of Wash DL), and Desond Howard were bigger busts... That said, Mike Williams was thought of by most to be a "safe" as a ROT for a decade. He is a big (in more then one way) bust. Too bad b/c you can tell he is a really good guy that just did not have it mentally (toughness) to make it in the NFL. 721603[/snapback] I have trouble considering Emtman a bust. Blowing out both knees was out of his control. He never had a chance to show over a period of time how good or not good he would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 I disagree. While he was the 4th pick taken in a Draft he was not nearly as highly touted as Mandarich (one of the best OL prospects ever) and Leaf (considered by some as the top pick over Manning). Shoot. I'd say even Akili Smith, Steve Entman (sp? U of Wash DL), and Desond Howard were bigger busts... That said, Mike Williams was thought of by most to be a "safe" as a ROT for a decade. He is a big (in more then one way) bust. Too bad b/c you can tell he is a really good guy that just did not have it mentally (toughness) to make it in the NFL. 721603[/snapback] woah there. emtman was a spectacular rookie before getting hurt. he would have been a great player if not for the injuries, which as every nfl knows is an arbitrary thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 The thing that kills me about this is, after the Jags signed him, Tom Donahoe went on national sports radio and called it "a great signing". Yea. It was a great pick, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 hmmmm, a cut o-lineman? maybe the bills should look into picking him up? 721648[/snapback] Yeah! I hear he was a high 1st rounder.....I'm hearing BIG potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 It's players like MW that give pro footballers & athletes in general a bad name. How much money????? 1.4mil to eat big & wave the NFL goodbye. People talk about character....the character that is important is the ability for self-motivation. I really don't care if a guy has an ego or likes to party or is a bit of a prick. As long as he loves to play & is intrinsically motivated, I want him to play for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 It's players like MW that give pro footballers & athletes in general a bad name. How much money????? 721731[/snapback] Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 4 Buffalo Mike Williams T Texas 36 Buffalo Josh Reed WR Louisiana State 97 Buffalo Coy Wire SS Stanford 139 Buffalo Justin Bannan DT Colorado 176 Buffalo Kevin Thomas CB Nevada-Las Vegas 215 Buffalo Mike Pucillo C Auburn 721647[/snapback] What a pathetic draft; this ranks right "up" there with John Butler's final effort as Bills' GM. When you look at the players Buffalo drafted in 2000 and 2001, it's not very hard to understand why they have struggled over the past six years. I really hope Josh plays to his potential this season, to salvage something out of this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 maybe Tampa Bay would be interested in signing him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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