ajzepp Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Of course you are correct, BUT.....I think that we will have SOOO much cap space in 07 (and perhaps more early picks), things can work out really well. AJ, we need to draft a bunch of strong, young linemen that can play football and give them a year to gain experience. If we do this, the wins will follow. 651968[/snapback] I totally agree....as pro-TD as I was, I am still dumbfounded how he can ignore the lines the way he did. Even if you just think about the four teams that beat us in the Superbowl those years....those lines were utterly DOMINANT. If Marv, Jauron, and Modrak can get our walls built up, I think it bodes well for our cap space next season (well, what's left of it after we build the lines, that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Nope...aside from being pissed. 651977[/snapback] You're not allowed to be pissed at the new old regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Who would that be? 651972[/snapback] ha ha, no need for you and I to rehash old debates about EM, Bill.....we should just agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Me too. The Bills had too much leverage in this to accept only a 5th. Oh well, nothing we can do about it now aye? 651974[/snapback] 10.1 ypc doesn't exactly command much, right? Parlay that with age, whining, quitting on one's team in a dolphin game and an obscene cap figure, and it takes away some leverage, or so one would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 ha ha, no need for you and I to rehash old debates about EM, Bill.....we should just agree to disagree 651983[/snapback] I know, but I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I know, but I couldn't resist. 651990[/snapback] lol....maybe we should start up with Bledsoe too, while we're at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I come here to find out about the Moulds trade and I see this quote and that Marv performed sexual favors for a pick... gotta love being a Bills fan!!! Hooray for old man porn!!! 651920[/snapback] Wait a minute pal you are on the wrong site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 10.1 ypc doesn't exactly command much, right? Parlay that with age, whining, quitting on one's team in a dolphin game and an obscene cap figure, and it takes away some leverage, or so one would think. 651985[/snapback] Well, it apparently commanded about $6 million for this year - only about $1mil less than the Bills were due to pay him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Ich, all these mental images of catheters and wrinkly foreskin and making me want to vErp. 651930[/snapback] eewww acheap shot, take it is bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 If they get a 5th, I am thinking that it will be packaged with an 07 pick. 651921[/snapback] Huh????? For a guy who gets 10.1 ypc and is on the downside of his career????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Did we just trade our best player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I think Moulds is still a above average receiver, but one of the best, not sure about that anymore....I can think of several guys off the top of my head who are better right at this moment: Ward, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, TO, Branch, Moss, Burress, Santana Moss, Fitzgerald, Boldin... Not saying EM isnt good, just saying he is not elite anymore. And I wish him the best. He was one of my favs. 651953[/snapback] No way is TO, Randy Moss, Santana Moss, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Deion Branch, Plaxico Burress, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, or Hines Ward better than Moulds. He's a former Bill, and we love him too much to say he's not as good as them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball'n Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Did we just trade our best player? 652004[/snapback] Not our best the past few years.. but Big leader in lockerroom and in feild.. Moorman is our best player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Did we just trade our best player? 652004[/snapback] ...and possibly get a 5th round pick for him? Is that an indictment of the Bills' talent level, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a player to be named later Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I just keep getting the feeling that with Donahoe we won alot of battles but not the war. Sure we made all the flashy deals but when it came down to it we got nothing. Maybe Marv doesn't think its not worth it to take up the whole teams time bargaining for a mid level pick as opposed to a higher mid level pick. OR maybe we got a 4th or a 3rd who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball'n Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I just keep getting the feeling that with Donahoe we won alot of battles but not the war. Sure we made all the flashy deals but when it came down to it we got nothing. Maybe Marv doesn't think its worth it to take up the whole teams time bargaining for a mid level pick as opposed to a higher mid level pick. OR maybe we got a 4th or a 3rd who knows. 652013[/snapback] I think they gave us the number 1 pick overall. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Did we just trade our best player? 652004[/snapback] No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So still no official word yet on compenstation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball'n Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Compenstation has not come in yet. Hope for 4th, but most likely 5th. Maybe a very small chance for 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So still no official word yet on compenstation? 652021[/snapback] It's none of your business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 It's none of your business. 652029[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 No. 652020[/snapback] Traded him to NO? wtf? i thought he was going to houston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 WGR reported it's a "day two pick". So it's either 4th or 5th. The Bills are expected to make an official announcement shortly, which will hopefully contain the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Traded him to NO? wtf? i thought he was going to houston? 652031[/snapback] Oh NO...I mean NO to NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The folks on the Texans Board are reporting it is a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The folks on the Texans Board are reporting it is a 5th. 652055[/snapback] They've been reporting its a 5th for the last two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundy249 Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I am confused..we traded moulds for NO? So we basically replaced our crappy team with a different crappy team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhockey Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Sirius 2-minute drill just reported that it is indeed a 5th....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalanche Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Sirius Just Stated it's a 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Good job Marv, way to buckle. Very sad, a 5th rounder is essentially worthless to us. So the Texans get a Pro Bowl WR and we get...a backup punter. We didnt even get a swap of 4ths or a 2007 pick...wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Good job Marv, way to buckle. Very sad, a 5th rounder is essentially worthless to us. So the Texans get a Pro Bowl WR and we get...a backup punter. We didnt even get a swap of 4ths or a 2007 pick...wow... 652069[/snapback] Well I'm just hopeful this was the best option available to the Bills...Ill tell you what, if I'm an Eagles fan I am PISSED...they could not pony up a 4th for a WR upgrade they SO desperately need? Wow!!!! Well at LEAST this 5th is the top 5th rounder...almost like getting a lower end 4th.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhockey Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I'm seriously trying to give Marv and staff the benefit of the doubt this offseason and i know it's been discussed ad nauseum on this board, but this team just seems to be circling the drain. There is no interest/excitement at this point, the Bills are a joke to most media outlets, and things just seem to get worse, which is hard to believe. I know that none of that matters until we see the draft and the resulting product on the field, but it just seems to me that Marv is learning on the job and that the team lacks a clear plan. Maybe it's just a purge until Marv gets his own people in, but this is getting painful and Buffalo just gets less and less attractive for players and coaching personnel. Sorry, just thinking outloud and venting a bit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Yeah we could package our 5ths if this is the case to move back up into the 4th. Would have much rather gotten the 4th though. A little dissapointed, but it's time for this team to get younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Ill tell you what, if I'm an Eagles fan I am PISSED...they could not pony up a 4th for a WR upgrade they SO desperately need? Wow!!!! 652080[/snapback] The Eagles historically tend to get rid of old, washed up players rather than sign them to big contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The Eagles historically tend do get rid of old, washed up players rather than sign them to big contracts. 652086[/snapback] True, but boy it does not seem that EM's new deal with Houston is a cap killer....and the Eagles have plenty of room under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CircleTheWagons Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Well I'm just hopeful this was the best option available to the Bills...Ill tell you what, if I'm an Eagles fan I am PISSED...they could not pony up a 4th for a WR upgrade they SO desperately need? Wow!!!! Well at LEAST this 5th is the top 5th rounder...almost like getting a lower end 4th.... 652080[/snapback] But the Eagles may not have been willing to meet Moulds' salary expectations. I think there was only one bidder willing to pay Moulds ... so Marv either does the deal or Houston waits until he is cut. I'm impressed we got anything for Moulds - good job Marv! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Yeah we could package our 5ths if this is the case to move back up into the 4th. Would have much rather gotten the 4th though. A little dissapointed, but it's time for this team to get younger. 652083[/snapback] Could not agree more.... I'm glad this is over finally so we as fans can move on and think about the future... I look at it this way plain and simple: If the Bills can get a solid player with the 5th pick, for example, a solid receiver/OL/TE or whatever, someone who WANTS to be here and turns out to contribute, even if that guy isn't a superstar, couple that with the cap savings AND Marv uses these savings to get the Bills another good player, then it is ALL worth it and bye bye EM!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The guy was unhappy as a Bill and it was time to part ways. The 5th rounder is better than nothing. If the Eagles wanted Moulds, they had the chance to pony up a 4th rounder and obviously didn't want to. Somebody remind me again what the Eagles got for TO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I wonder how many TBD'ers are going to grow affectionate to the Texans ala the Cowboy man-love that gushed here when the Druid one moved there. Goodbye Eric Moulds. At least we know you weren't in it for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 The guy was unhappy as a Bill and it was time to part ways. The 5th rounder is better than nothing. If the Eagles wanted Moulds, they had the chance to pony up a 4th rounder and obviously didn't want to. Somebody remind me again what the Eagles got for TO? 652094[/snapback] A bad case of trench mouth in the national press. That's what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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