Hirly5 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Steve Smith just threw Nate under the bus. He said that Nate isnt as good as Nate thinks he is. His basis was that alot of corners think they are good but they always have safety help. He implied that Nate was one of those guys. Smith also listed some of the top corners. He had Champ, Dre Bly, Delta O'Neil. Smith also called Fred Smoot overrated. Sounds like players in the league think "The Playmaker" is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Ouch. Hopefully that'll help us save a couple mil on his contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Steve Smith ate Fred Smoot for lunch. Just destroyed him. The guy has a right to say such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 NC is not one of the top corners, thats no big secret...and Steve Smith throwing someone under the bus? Nah, he never runs his mouth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 with the year Steve Smith had, he can say whatever he wants about opposing DB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hmmm. That is an interesting observation coming from Smith. And I bet it stems from that game we hosted against Carolina, when Smith was held pretty much in check. Recall that Nate entered that game being heavily criticized after a subpar perfromance against the Chargers. The Carolina game did witness the defense's conversion more to a zone coverage, which worked well for them defensively in that game, since the Panthers weren't prepared for it. However, the scheme proved less successful in subsequent weeks, most notably the very next week against Chris Chambers and the Dolphins. While I tend to agree that Nate is a bit overrated, he is still an above average player at a position, where good players are hard to come by. Thus, I hope that we can re-sign him. Also, with the DL's inability to put pressure on opposing QBs without blitzing, there's no CB alive who wouldn't have had some pretty bad games this year in Nate's shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 That game that we hosted Nate had safety help on every play. The rest of the year I could not understand why the rest of the league was not double teaming Steve Smith every play as he was the entire passing offense. I think Nate is entirely overrated. With that said I franchise him and see if anyone bites. If not pay him the tag and draft a young corner while developing what we have. Signing McGee long term was an excellent move and gives us some lattitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 That's odd. Chad Johnson was giving him rave reviews on WGR yesterday from Detroit. You'd think CJ would be more likely to run off at the mouth than Smith. Especially since he was practically shut down by Nate when we played Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 What I'd like is for somebody who REALLY knows what they're talking about to break down Nate's play last year and tell me what you saw. Seriously. I don't claim to hold myself out as an expert, and I certainly don't have the time to watch film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dear Marv, Please dont let Nate go from being an overrated player to an overpaid player. He gets burned more than an albino in Equidor. heh. I made that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 It's actually nice to hear a objective point of view from a player with no particular interest either way. If Smith says that I tend to believe his opinion more than fans on this board or anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 That game that we hosted Nate had safety help on every play. The rest of the year I could not understand why the rest of the league was not double teaming Steve Smith every play as he was the entire passing offense. As I recall, Smith made a point of mentioning that after the game. "Troy Vincent's out there breast-feeding him," etc., etc. I think Nate is entirely overrated. With that said I franchise him and see if anyone bites. If not pay him the tag and draft a young corner while developing what we have. Signing McGee long term was an excellent move and gives us some latitude. 591231[/snapback] I'll give Nate more credit than you did, even considering the subpar season he had. But I'm with you on the franchise tag (and trade, if necessary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Above average corner, perhaps even good. Shut-down Nate is not. Johnson, who apparently gave him kudos had what? 9 grabs for 126 and a TD off Clements this year? Chris Chambers had almost DOUBLE that in Miami #2 He's better than what we'd replace him with but I don't know if that makes him worth 8 mil per. Especially since, to me, he really seemed to mail in the 2nd half of the season. He was absoultely invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 If the choice is between keeping Nate and fixing either of the lines, then ... "So long, Nate. Good luck!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Above average corner, perhaps even good. Shut-down Nate is not. Johnson, who apparently gave him kudos had what? 9 grabs for 126 and a TD off Clements this year? Chris Chambers had almost DOUBLE that in Miami #2 He's better than what we'd replace him with but I don't know if that makes him worth 8 mil per. Especially since, to me, he really seemed to mail in the 2nd half of the season. He was absoultely invisible. 591441[/snapback] Compare that to Chad's 2004 performance against the Bills when Nate held him to 2 catches and 10 yards receiving. To me Nate is definately among the top 10 CBs in the leage and deserves franchise money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Steve Smith just threw Nate under the bus. He said that Nate isnt as good as Nate thinks he is. His basis was that alot of corners think they are good but they always have safety help. He implied that Nate was one of those guys. Smith also listed some of the top corners. He had Champ, Dre Bly, Delta O'Neil. Smith also called Fred Smoot overrated. Sounds like players in the league think "The Playmaker" is overrated. 591139[/snapback] Nate deserves one more chance as far as I'm concerned. I thought his play this year wasn't as good as last year, but everyone deserves a second chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Yet another reason to like Steve Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Still think he's the best we have for now, for this year. Give a new staff one year to elevate McGee and King's game, and get backup safeties in here. Franchise Nate. Git 'er done, ML! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 As I recall, Smith made a point of mentioning that after the game. "Troy Vincent's out there breast-feeding him," etc., etc. 591392[/snapback] Thank God for good ol' Troy back there. That comment pretty much removed any credibility from Smith's opinion. Nate is an ideal young player to invest in. He had a down year last year, but he'll bounce back. He has had a great start to his career, his game is well rounded and he makes plays. Imagine what he could do with a pass rush from the front 4 for one time in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thank God for good ol' Troy back there. That comment pretty much removed any credibility from Smith's opinion. Nate is an ideal young player to invest in. He had a down year last year, but he'll bounce back. He has had a great start to his career, his game is well rounded and he makes plays. Imagine what he could do with a pass rush from the front 4 for one time in his career. 591597[/snapback] I fully agree, but what do you think went wrong last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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