John from Riverside Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds? Eric Moulds has been one of the best players on our team for a long long time....he is going to count what....TEN MILLION against the cap next year? What are we going to do? If he goes how do we replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds? Eric Moulds has been one of the best players on our team for a long long time....he is going to count what....TEN MILLION against the cap next year? What are we going to do? If he goes how do we replace him? 379823[/snapback] Sign someone else for less money who'll be almost as productive. In case you hadn't noticed, the New England Patriots won the Super Bowl, not the Eagles of Terrell Owens, or the Vikings of Randy Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds? Eric Moulds has been one of the best players on our team for a long long time....he is going to count what....TEN MILLION against the cap next year? What are we going to do? If he goes how do we replace him? 379823[/snapback] Eric would be well advised to take whatever money the Bills are willing to pay him and retire here. I fear for his safety and the mental stability of some fans if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 TD has said he wants Moulds to retire a Buffalo Bill. How many receivers at his age actually do anything after leaving their regular team? I think he knows this and will take a pay cut if necessary. He still has Evans, Reed, and Parrish to Mould into a NFL players. Parrish will never be a number 1 or number 2 receiver. He is just to small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds bleeds red white and blue. He'll take a REASONABLE paycut or sign a long term backloaded salary with the intensions of retiring (ala favre, bledsoe [w/NE in theory]) before the contract escalades. Now, if he's offered a 1 year, vet minimum, then of course he'll walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udonkey Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 If necessary, can we hope that Lee Evans would be ready to step into the #1 spot with Roscoe Parrish stepping up to #2 or #3? I'm sure that there will be another speedy WR to bring in during next year's draft to return kicks and/or compete for a #3 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds? Eric Moulds has been one of the best players on our team for a long long time....he is going to count what....TEN MILLION against the cap next year? What are we going to do? If he goes how do we replace him? 379823[/snapback] we are doomed!! How can we survive without another overpaid, underproductive, injury prone, big name player??!! oh- the humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 we are doomed!! How can we survive without another overpaid, underproductive, injury prone, big name player??!! oh- the humanity 379925[/snapback] injury prone? Are you f-in kidding me? 1996 Buffalo Bills 16 5 20 279 14.0 47 2 4 1 11 1997 Buffalo Bills 16 8 29 294 10.1 32 0 1 0 18 1998 Buffalo Bills 16 15 67 1368 20.4 84 9 22 8 54 1999 Buffalo Bills 14 14 65 994 15.3 54 7 13 6 44 2000 Buffalo Bills 16 16 94 1326 14.1 52 5 23 4 62 2001 Buffalo Bills 16 16 67 904 13.5 80 5 13 5 42 2002 Buffalo Bills 16 15 100 1292 12.9 70 10 14 6 64 2003 Buffalo Bills 13 13 64 780 12.2 49 1 10 1 35 2004 Buffalo Bills 16 16 88 1043 11.9 49 5 12 2 53 '99 - misses 2 games with a hammy injury '03 - bad groin limits him but he still plays... yep, moulds sure sounds injury prone, TD what are you waiting for, cut him! all of those seasons where he played 16 games show that yes, in fact, moulds is injury prone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Parrish will never be a number 1 or number 2 receiver. He is just to small. 379842[/snapback] That is what they told about another 5" 10" guy named Steve Tasker....He went on to have a great football career with the bills.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 we are doomed!! How can we survive without another overpaid, underproductive, injury prone, big name player??!! oh- the humanity 379925[/snapback] In his career he has never missed more than 3 games in any season. In the last 5 years in the league, he's averaged 83 receptions and 1069 yards. That is neither injury prone or underproductive. In fact he has top 5 WR numbers and has been loyal to the Bills over his career and in my opinion isn't overpaid considering everyone knows that he will renegotiate. Eric Moulds is excellent. He's the reason that Peerless and Evans had so much success. Give the guy his props and pay him. He has earned the right to retire a bill if he is willing to be reasonable. t-r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 If necessary, can we hope that Lee Evans would be ready to step into the #1 spot with Roscoe Parrish stepping up to #2 or #3? I'm sure that there will be another speedy WR to bring in during next year's draft to return kicks and/or compete for a #3 spot. 379855[/snapback] Evans is list at 5' 10" and Parrish at 5' 9" 170 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds bleeds red white and blue. He'll take a REASONABLE paycut or sign a long term backloaded salary with the intensions of retiring (ala favre, bledsoe [w/NE in theory]) before the contract escalades. Now, if he's offered a 1 year, vet minimum, then of course he'll walk. 379848[/snapback] The question is how much will the bills be willing to pay him and how much would Eric agree to take a paycut.... If he is going to compliment a Lee Evans next year, then as per the standard for a 2nd WR on the team, he should be getting a 3M+ salaray per year... Will Eric agree to reduce his salaray from 10M to 3M ? And if EM gets cut what is the money he is likely to get in the FA market (For example what did Dyson get this year from baltimore ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Guys, are ya really gonna let Obie Wan get you all worked up like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Guys, are ya really gonna let Obie Wan get you all worked up like that? 379945[/snapback] I just hate the fact that E.Moulds doesn't get the credit he deserves. The guy has been money in the league for 5 or 6 years now. When are people going to start giving him his much deserved credit? t-r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 In his career he has never missed more than 3 games in any season. In the last 5 years in the league, he's averaged 83 receptions and 1069 yards. That is neither injury prone or underproductive. In fact he has top 5 WR numbers and has been loyal to the Bills over his career and in my opinion isn't overpaid considering everyone knows that he will renegotiate. Eric Moulds is excellent. He's the reason that Peerless and Evans had so much success. Give the guy his props and pay him. He has earned the right to retire a bill if he is willing to be reasonable. t-r 379941[/snapback] Moulds has played through injuries, but those injuries have turned him into an ordinary WR. He has not produced as an elite WR for a number of seasons. He dropped passes last year, disappeared from games and was not a dominant player. His numbers look awesome to you, but Harrison caught 140 passes and Holt consistently puts 1500+ yards. Moulds has not produced at any where near those levels. Look at the TDs. And this was with Drew locking onto Moulds at every opportunity. Hopefully, JP can get him into the end zone. Unless Moulds "cuts" his base salary to $3 mil from $10 mil next year, he will be gone. There will be no JoBu magic to create dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I'm assuming the reference to PW relates to the fact that Bills fans have been tough on Pat Williams since he left. I really don't mind Phat Pat leaving for greener pastures. I really think he's on the slippery downslope of his career, but even if he's not and makes the Pro Bowl for the next three years, I won't be bothered by that. What bothers me is his mouthiness. He took the money and ran. So what, but then he turned around and tried to blame the Bills organization for his decision. As far as I'm concerned, he only makes himself look selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Moulds has played through injuries, but those injuries have turned him into an ordinary WR. He has not produced as an elite WR for a number of seasons. He dropped passes last year, disappeared from games and was not a dominant player. His numbers look awesome to you, but Harrison caught 140 passes and Holt consistently puts 1500+ yards. Moulds has not produced at any where near those levels. Look at the TDs. And this was with Drew locking onto Moulds at every opportunity. Hopefully, JP can get him into the end zone. Unless Moulds "cuts" his base salary to $3 mil from $10 mil next year, he will be gone. There will be no JoBu magic to create dead money. 380112[/snapback] You think he is average? I don't think he is Randy Moss but he is probabily the most physical wide reciever in the game. He's the best in the NFL at beating the 5 yard bump. How many different DB's talk about how strong he is and how hard he is to line up against? On one hand people praise Travis Henry for playing injured, but if Eric Moulds guts it out he's bad for the team. I can't say that right now he would or should have to accept that big of a pay cut. What if he puts up 100, 1500 10? It wouldn't be the first time. He's got a well rounded offense around him with different weapons everywhere. It is possible. Peyton Manning looks for Marvin Harrison just as quickly as Drew looked for Moulds if not more. Not to mention their offense is 70% pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 You think he is average? I don't think he is Randy Moss but he is probabily the most physical wide reciever in the game. He's the best in the NFL at beating the 5 yard bump. How many different DB's talk about how strong he is and how hard he is to line up against? On one hand people praise Travis Henry for playing injured, but if Eric Moulds guts it out he's bad for the team. I can't say that right now he would or should have to accept that big of a pay cut. What if he puts up 100, 1500 10? It wouldn't be the first time. He's got a well rounded offense around him with different weapons everywhere. It is possible. Peyton Manning looks for Marvin Harrison just as quickly as Drew looked for Moulds if not more. Not to mention their offense is 70% pass. 380171[/snapback] I think Mould is above average and I dig having him on our team, but some things don't help his cause. He has a bad habit of looking for flags before a play is really done, and I freakin' hate that. And he probably would look better if we didn't try the garbage can throw from Bledsoe to the corner of the endzone so many freakin' times. "Oh, look, we're second and goal from the five. I have an idea. Let's throw it up for Moulds." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Since he signed his contract extension back in 2001, Eric has been one of the highest-paid WR's in the NFL. But he hasn't produced at that level, even though his presence opens things up for Evans. So I think he'll take a paycut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 "Oh, look, we're second and goal from the five. I have an idea. Let's throw it up for Moulds." 380176[/snapback] Sounds like a GM issue to me. Yeah. Definitely a GM issue. Sorry. I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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