Pats game snap counts

[PoundingDog]

13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What I find interesting is that the Bills had 70 snaps on offense to the Patriots 52. In a game whose final score was as close as it was I wouldn’t have thought the disparity would be that large. I guess that’s what happens when the Bills defense gives up two touchdown runs in excess of 50 yards. 

The point is it becomes the way the Bills win games - time consuming drives that wind up with points and defense plays quick time intervals, preferably forcing opponents go passing (may include scoring). 

 

The 2nd half the Patriots had 7:20 minutes of possession in 30 minutes of football. 

[Pete]

1 hour ago, Success said:

It looked like Hairston had a great game.  I'm excited about his future.

 

He blew contain on the long TD run.  AJ did too.  Besides that, Hairston playing every snap, and playing decent is awesome news!  I can’t wait to watch the all 22 and see how he did play to play 

[SoCal Deek]

37 minutes ago, PoundingDog said:

The point is it becomes the way the Bills win games - time consuming drives that wind up with points and defense plays quick time intervals, preferably forcing opponents go passing (may include scoring). 

 

The 2nd half the Patriots had 7:20 minutes of possession in 30 minutes of football. 

I’ve no doubt that’s ‘the point’ however it’s hard to believe that part of the strategy is spotting the opponent 21 points before ball control kicks in. I mean, yikes! 

[Dillenger4]

3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

Knox more snaps than Kincaid is interesting.  

They seem to be easing Kincaid back in. We didn't really need him yesterday as much as we will going forward. Healthy for the Playoffs baby!

[Brand J]

Looks like Hancock has fallen out of favor. Too bad Landon Jackson had to get injured. Would’ve liked to see if he progressed with playing time.

[Shaw66]

3 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

Actually no. Kincaid is a glorified WR and is used as such - probably with his hamstring and knee injuries recently, they don't want to put too much strain on him other than free running. 

 

Many want to get rid of Knox here but he's truly a 50-50 guy in terms of blocking/receiving (well maybe better in blocking than receiving). So he gets more one-one opportunities. I think he stays beyond this season. This is what you supposed to get with Knox and Hawes, and Cook on the field. The D has to worry about run or pass from the TEs. If Josh sees the Knox can beat the LB/S across from him in routes, he can audible to pass. Hawes is more of a surprise passing at this point.   

I agree with this. And the Bills knew they wanted to run the ball, so you'd prefer Knox and Hawes.  Kincaid didn't fit the game plan as well. 

 

This is another example of the kind of versatility that McDermott likes.  He has three tight ends. He can play with one, he can play with two, and he can play with three.  He can play combos that maximize run ability, he can to maximize pass effectiveness.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I thought they might play Taron less, but he amazingly shut down Diggs from the slot.

Diggs doesn’t get a lot of snaps anymore I wonder how happy he’s gonna be with that going forward.  He seems like an ‘if the team is winning it’s all good but if not watch out’ type guy 

 

He’s gotten the third most wr snaps in that offense most of the year 

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Success said:

It looked like Hairston had a great game.  I'm excited about his future.

 

 

I don't know what you were watching but he made the key mistake on the long Henderson run second half, lost his concentration thought the play was over and drifted inside losing contain. And he gave up 4 completions on 4 targets in coverage for 51 yards, the most on the team.

 

That isn't to clown him he is a young kid still learning and he has had better days but he had a pretty rough go yesterday by all accounts.

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Diggs doesn’t get a lot of snaps anymore I wonder how happy he’s gonna be with that going forward.  He seems like an ‘if the team is winning it’s all good but if not watch out’ type guy 

 

He’s gotten the third most wr snaps in that offense most of the year 

 

They started the year rotating him inside and outside but the past 6 weeks he has played overwhelmingly from the slot and comes out in a lot of their 12 and 21 personnel looks. I think Stef can still play. But he really struggles to separate vertically now as we saw his final year here. Where his route running still shows up is on those little technical routes inside where he can set DBs and linebackers up and then stop his feet and get horizontal separation.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

48 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

They seem to be easing Kincaid back in. We didn't really need him yesterday as much as we will going forward. Healthy for the Playoffs baby!

Kincaid really wasn’t getting a ton of snaps when healthy either but he is hilariously efficient when he’s on the field so you’d never guess that haha 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

20 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Diggs doesn’t get a lot of snaps anymore I wonder how happy he’s gonna be with that going forward.  He seems like an ‘if the team is winning it’s all good but if not watch out’ type guy 

 

He’s gotten the third most wr snaps in that offense most of the year 

Good point. 
 

also, all he does is run 5-yard routes from the slot. Lot of money to pay a guy for that.

[BearNorth]

4 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

I think you are underselling Hawes.  He is 13 of 16 targets for 161 and 3 TDs.  Those are amazing numbers for a 3rd TE.

PFF as of today has Hawes ranked #2 among tight ends to perennial all-pro George Kittle.  He is also ranked #2 among TE's in pass-blocking, #6 in run blocking; and is also in the top 10 TE's in receiving grade.  He has outsnapped Kincaid 412 to 273; Knox is ranked 23 among TE's and had 567 snaps.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

7 hours ago, Success said:

It looked like Hairston had a great game.  I'm excited about his future.

 

 

6 hours ago, Pete said:

He blew contain on the long TD run.  AJ did too.  Besides that, Hairston playing every snap, and playing decent is awesome news!  I can’t wait to watch the all 22 and see how he did play to play 

One promising thing with Hairston has been that physically he has the athleticism to recover. One negative that we’ve seen repeatedly is that he struggles at the point of the catch to track and make a play of the ball. The recovery speed is nice, but he’ll need to work on finishing the play. We say this a handful of times this year (Waddle, Higgins, was it #9 this week?) 

 

I’ve also been slightly surprised at his willingness to tackle. He’s had his fair share of struggles but I think he’s going to be a good starter for years to come 

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

4 completions on 4 targets in coverage for 51 yards

Was one of those the 30 yarder that should have been an incompletion? Without that it’s 3 for 21. I thought he was fine. 

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

Knox more snaps than Kincaid is interesting.  

 

Interestingly Knox has outsnapped Kincaid in all but one game this year.