Only one of the current top 4 QB's has beaten the other three in the same season.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Neo said:

Jackson was not terrible when Allen beat him.

 

Mahomes was not terrible when Allen beat him.

 

Burrow was playing when Allen beat him.

I”d listen to Stafford.   But, I’m a biased “pro Stafford” guy.

 

 

 

This, by the way, is classic internet self gratification.   Someone says “the following took place” with historical significance.    Others line up and say “well, yes, but he farted in high school and one of his shirt buttons was untucked.”

 

Allen beat Jackson, Mahomes and Burrow.   I don’t care if Burrow’s babysitter wouldn’t let him watch South Park when he was eleven years old.

 

Point out your trees.   I’ll enjoy the forest.

 

The OP said currenly, meanin his season.  Non of these guys are top 4.

 

Mahomes was 1-3 and had 5 TDs and 5 INTs when  he rolled into that Bills game.  Solid decline.                                                           

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Too easy:  Stafford, Maye, Goff.

 

"Currently{, Jackson is terrible, Hahomes is clearly strugglig.  Burrow hardly plays.  In his only game of consequence this year, he gave the win away.

Key is their status when Josh played against them 

 

The Bills played Lamar in week 1 and if not for Josh’s heroics Lamar would have been the MVP of the game 

 

when the Bills played Mahomes, the chiefs we’re riding on a hot streak from him and Josh silenced him. 
 

Burrow was playing at a high level and took a 21-10 lead into the 4th quarter before Josh decided to wear his cape and out dueled him 

 

the threeQBs may not be ranked in the top five today but when we played them they were one of the hottest QBs entering that game 

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Top 4:

 

Allen

Mahomes

Burrow

Jackson.

 

That QB... is Josh freaking Allen.

When you have THE onlyQB in the NFL,  a pretty good team, this is bound to happen 👍

Edited 17 hours ago by Don Otreply

[Neo]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The OP said currenly, meanin his season.  Non of these guys are top 4.

 

Mahomes was 1-3 and had 5 TDs and 5 INTs when  he rolled into that Bills game.  Solid decline.                                                           

 

No, he said top four.   We’ll pick teams tomorrow.  I’ll take his four.   You take your four.  Well ask any GM in football if they want Allen, Mahomes, Jackson and Burrow or any four you name.   You’re pointing to three, four, or six week stretches where this guy struggled or that guy struggled.  That’s an obvious truism that doesn’t address, let alone negate, his point.

 

”Tom Brady is the greatest.   Wait, Eli Manning beat him in a Super Bowl.”

Edited 16 hours ago by Neo

[MJS]

8 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:

Has Josh Allen ever beaten Josh Allen? 🫣

Yes, but he changed his name to Josh Hines-Allen.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

Impressive. Mahomes did do this last year though. 

 

Beat Jackson on opening night. Beat Burrow a week later. Then beat Josh in AFCCG.

[Mr. WEO]

13 hours ago, ganesh said:

Key is their status when Josh played against them 

 

The Bills played Lamar in week 1 and if not for Josh’s heroics Lamar would have been the MVP of the game 

 

when the Bills played Mahomes, the chiefs we’re riding on a hot streak from him and Josh silenced him. 
 

Burrow was playing at a high level and took a 21-10 lead into the 4th quarter before Josh decided to wear his cape and out dueled him 

 

the threeQBs may not be ranked in the top five today but when we played them they were one of the hottest QBs entering that game 

 

"hot streak"?  they had 1 quality win over Detroit and were off to their worst start since 2021.  Burrow had played in 3 games, finished 2 of them and averaged 150 YPG and completed 55% of his passes, 4 TDs. That's not "a high level".  

 

Ok, sure Lamar was a top 4 QB this year in week 1.  Then he wasn't again.  Burrow played 1 game "at a high level" then literally threw the win away twice, on successive plays.

 

The topic is "current" top 4 QBs.  None of those 3 are currently.  

 

11 hours ago, Neo said:

 

No, he said top four.   We’ll pick teams tomorrow.  I’ll take his four.   You take your four.  Well ask any GM in football if they want Allen, Mahomes, Jackson and Burrow or any four you name.   You’re pointing to three, four, or six week stretches where this guy struggled or that guy struggled.  That’s an obvious truism that doesn’t address, let alone negate, his point.

 

”Tom Brady is the greatest.   Wait, Eli Manning beat him in a Super Bowl.”

 

Read the title of the thread....

[ddaryl]

19 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:

Has Josh Allen ever beaten Josh Allen? 🫣

Yes this has happened on September 23 2024

[finn]

A gratifying stat, but I always resist the notion that one quarterback beats another. Yes, there is some willpower involved--willing one's team to victory, coming back in the fourth quarter and all that--and I don't want to discount that. But head to head doesn't account for myriad other variables, especially coaching, injuries and teammates, that affect the outcome in ways the quarterback can't control. Allen has outplayed Mahomes every time he's faced him, except for the first playoff game (when, IMHO, McDermott held him back), yet his team lost. Does that mean Mahomes is better anyway, as the stat you cite implies? 

 

So I think the stat has some merit but has to be considered in the context of many other factors. (All of which I am happy to manipulate to make Allen come out on top. 😀)

[SoMAn]

How do you put Burrow and Jackson in the top 4 when they've missed multiple games this season? Are you going by legacy rankings or perception going into the season? That means squat today.

 

Drake Maye is statistically a top 4 QB. Maye's team beat Allen's this year. 

So, if it makes you feel better to think Josh is top dog, ok, but don't forget he also lost to Tua, Penix, and the Houston backup.

[SoonerBillsFan]

7 minutes ago, SoMAn said:

How do you put Burrow and Jackson in the top 4 when they've missed multiple games this season? Are you going by legacy rankings or perception going into the season? That means squat today.

 

Drake Maye is statistically a top 4 QB. Maye's team beat Allen's this year. 

So, if it makes you feel better to think Josh is top dog, ok, but don't forget he also lost to Tua, Penix, and the Houston backup.

They are considered the current top 4 in the NFL.  That said, that QB from NE is rising pretty fast...so we need to add his name to the list.

[Neo]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

"hot streak"?  they had 1 quality win over Detroit and were off to their worst start since 2021.  Burrow had played in 3 games, finished 2 of them and averaged 150 YPG and completed 55% of his passes, 4 TDs. That's not "a high level".  

 

Ok, sure Lamar was a top 4 QB this year in week 1.  Then he wasn't again.  Burrow played 1 game "at a high level" then literally threw the win away twice, on successive plays.

 

The topic is "current" top 4 QBs.  None of those 3 are currently.  

 

 

Read the title of the thread....

 

 

Playing Whac-A-Mole with the LAMP infected would certainly grow my post count, but come at the cost of sanity.

 

Any meaningful reading of the word current, in the context of best quarterbacks in the NFL, would allow for, or even require, Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson.

 

I’ll let you hang your “I’m relevant” hat on the astute grasp of the obvious that not everyone is at their best every down, quarter, game or even season.   That’s how you get, I suspect, to 50 thousand posts.  What insight and I’m grateful.

 

The original post, and title, are certainly interesting, unexpected, and infrequent.     I will recognize LAMP instincts and nod approvingly as you point out any athlete at any time in any sport can have up or down performances.

 

I will leave the last word to you, suspecting you covet it.     

 

PS …. My Hyundai Genesis passed a Ferrari in the shop for an oil change on my way to work.    I currently have the better car.   True?  Perhaps in some oddly disinteresting way.    It is, however, an opportunity for me to interject on some Ferrari discussion board, throwing darts at things like gorillas fling poo, all the while building my post count.

 

PSS … you didn’t name your four QBs for my hypothetical GM review.  You’re welcome to add the word “current,” a debatable point, perhaps, but one that doesn’t change the outcome.

 

PSSS … there’s another topic today that begins with “When Kincaid plays the entire game the Bills are 7-1”.   Quick, go tell him that Kincaid has never played an entire game.   It’s a posting opportunity!

 

Adieu!

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Neo

[ganesh]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

"hot streak"?  they had 1 quality win over Detroit and were off to their worst start since 2021.  Burrow had played in 3 games, finished 2 of them and averaged 150 YPG and completed 55% of his passes, 4 TDs. That's not "a high level".  

 

Ok, sure Lamar was a top 4 QB this year in week 1.  Then he wasn't again.  Burrow played 1 game "at a high level" then literally threw the win away twice, on successive plays.

 

The topic is "current" top 4 QBs.  None of those 3 are currently.  

 

 

Read the title of the thread....

hot streak was for the Chiefs...The chiefs had won 5 of their last 6 before walking into Highmark Stadium.  I believe they scored 30+ points in every one of these games.

[Mr. WEO]

30 minutes ago, ganesh said:

hot streak was for the Chiefs...The chiefs had won 5 of their last 6 before walking into Highmark Stadium.  I believe they scored 30+ points in every one of these games.

 

i guess if youn want to eliminate the 0-2 start, they might look a little jotter..

 

But we all know the narrative of the Chiefs coiong into the Bills game wasn't "this is one of the hottest teams in the NFL", it was "what's wrong with the Chiefs?".  This has proven to be the real Chiefs for this year as they will miss the playoffs and the Offense looks totally lost.

 

3 hours ago, Neo said:

 

 

Playing Whac-A-Mole with the LAMP infected would certainly grow my post count, but come at the cost of sanity.

 

Any meaningful reading of the word current, in the context of best quarterbacks in the NFL, would allow for, or even require, Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson.

 

I’ll let you hang your “I’m relevant” hat on the astute grasp of the obvious that not everyone is at their best every down, quarter, game or even season.   That’s how you get, I suspect, to 50 thousand posts.  What insight and I’m grateful.

 

The original post, and title, are certainly interesting, unexpected, and infrequent.     I will recognize LAMP instincts and nod approvingly as you point out any athlete at any time in any sport can have up or down performances.

 

I will leave the last word to you, suspecting you covet it.     

 

PS …. My Hyundai Genesis passed a Ferrari in the shop for an oil change on my way to work.    I currently have the better car.   True?  Perhaps in some oddly disinteresting way.    It is, however, an opportunity for me to interject on some Ferrari discussion board, throwing darts at things like gorillas fling poo, all the while building my post count.

 

PSS … you didn’t name your four QBs for my hypothetical GM review.  You’re welcome to add the word “current,” a debatable point, perhaps, but one that doesn’t change the outcome.

 

PSSS … there’s another topic today that begins with “When Kincaid plays the entire game the Bills are 7-1”.   Quick, go tell him that Kincaid has never played an entire game.   It’s a posting opportunity!

 

Adieu!

 

 

 

 

 

Hey--looks like you can now put Phil Rivers in your top 4 "current" QBs!

 

Well played!

[boyst]

Jackson isn't a top QB. On paper he gets there and he does play well but the illusion is wearing thin.

 

Mahomes is doing all he can with no one on offense and a mid OL. He's still top 8... Maybe 10

 

Burrow is as elite as ever but his availability is not right

 

QB's don't face each other disirregardless.