Darius Slay claimed on waivers by Buffalo

[Kelly to Allen]

3 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I would love this.

 

I really hope they sign a vet cb like this for depth in the playoffs 

[Shortchaz]

15 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Agree. Not to mention— the Bills can’t set some negative precedent and let these players manipulate the waiver system like this. 

I tend to agree in principle, but am also of the mind to take the high road. 
 

just for the football gods.

[BigAl2526]

Since Buffalo put Slay on the "reserved did not report" list, I wonder if they will release him after Buffalo plays Philadelphia.  There is no reason for Buffalo to keep him there indefinitely besides spite.  At the same time, I don't especially want to help a future opponent.

[Sierra Foothills]

13 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

If anything rosenhaus is more worried the bills will hold it against him 

 

Rosenhaus won't hold it against the bills

 

Look at the schefter tweet - at the end someone added something along the lines of " slay is honored an organization such as the bills would claim him"

 

The added quote likely wasn't from slay 

 

Yes. Rosenhaus is a players agent. There's no emotion in anything he does. He's a reptile, a pragmatist. He represents Greg Rousseau and Jordan Poyer.

 

He couldn't care less about the outcome but he's certainly happy to have his name in the news.

 

12 hours ago, mjt328 said:

As revealed by many sources, it's against NFL rules for him to contact Slay or his agent before putting through the waiver wire claim.  Beane had no way to know Slay would rather retire than play for an 8-4 perennial Super Bowl contender... outside of tampering and taking the risk of getting caught/punished by the league.  We did things by the book, and end up losing a player (Ingram) for following the correct procedure.

 

Meanwhile, (based on the information that has come out) the Eagles likely did tamper with Slay.  They will never get officially caught or punished, and will almost certainly end up with him on their roster before the year's end anyway.

 

All true. And even if Beane knew what the slimy play was, why should he go along with it? Phaq Slay, Phag the Steelers, and Phaq the Eagles. Not on our watch.

 

The Bills have been bitten in the playoffs due to a lack of CB depth. They had the opportunity to improve at the position and worst case, prevent the Eagles, who we play in 3 weeks and could face in the Super Bowl, of a player they covet and know how to use.

 

12 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

You really believe that BB put in a claim for Slay with the intention of waiving Ingram without running the scenario by McD?

 

Exactly. It's preposterous to think this, as it's preposterous to think that McDermott and Beane are at odds.

 

There's a nuclear stupid bomb that's hit this topic.

 

10 hours ago, BRH said:

After hearing what he said, I wish him a merry Christmas and a happy new year at home with his family while he remains on our reserve/did not report list and explains to his wife that he just gave up $2.5M in prorated signing bonus in order to do that.

 

I didn't have to hear what the player said. I couldn't care less.

 

To the player: You're not entitled to dictate the terms of your employment. You made a slimy play and you lost.

Eat it.

 

5 hours ago, paulmm3 said:

For me there should be absolutely nothing emotional in the decision not to release Slay. Nothing against him, no hard feelings. But we're not giving another team trying to win the Super Bowl (Eagles) a player they can use for free. It's just good strategy to force Slay to report to Buffalo or to retire.

 

As I said before (actually any 3 pages of a 40 page topic captures all that needs to be said but seeing as we're going around in circles, I have just as much right as anyone), the people who hate Beane so much that they can't even think straight anymore would have a field day in 3 weeks if Slay picked off Josh for the Eagles.

 

"We could have claimed him! He was on waivers! Wah! Wah! Wah!

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Sierra Foothills

[paulmm3]

I don't see a reason to release Slay after we play the Eagles on the 28th. We could see them again in the Super Bowl, however unlikely that may be. And we shouldn't give them any resources they can use to beat us at any point when we still might play them again. Can you imagine losing the Super Bowl to the Eagles on a Darius Slay interception because we decided "nah, he's not that important to Philadelphia and the chances we both make the Super Bowl are tiny, let's just be nice and let him go where he wants."

 

I'd be okay with releasing Slay and letting him go to the Eagles after it's assured there is zero chance we will see the Eagles again this year. If we don't qualify for the playoffs or are eliminated before the Eagles are.

Edited 8 hours ago by paulmm3

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Since Buffalo put Slay on the "reserved did not report" list, I wonder if they will release him after Buffalo plays Philadelphia.  There is no reason for Buffalo to keep him there indefinitely besides spite.  At the same time, I don't especially want to help a future opponent.

 

There absolutely is a reason to keep him on the list besides spite...

 

When you claim a player on waivers, you take on the contract of the team that waived him (in this case, the Steelers). 

 

Had Slay not been claimed, he would then become a Free Agent and that contract would remain on the Steelers books. But since we claimed him, The Steelers are now free and clear of contractual obligations.

 

It works the same way for us. If we waive him and he goes unclaimed, we are stuck paying him the remainder of that contract for the rest of the year.

 

Considering the Bills and the Eagles were the only teams to put in a claim originally before all this mess - there's no way any team claims him if we waive him. Every other team in the league knows he won't report to any team but the Eagles. And bc of that, the Eagles know that they don't need to put in a claim. They can just sign him and pay week to week vet minimum.

 

If we cut him, we would be stuck still paying for him for the rest of the season. Literally the only way to prevent that is to put him on that list and keep him there, unless he reports.

 

Also, by putting him on that list and keeping him there, we also could recoup a 5 game prorated amount from his 8.9m signing bonus. So not only could we not have to pay the contract we're currently on the hook for, we could stand to make money out of him being there that we could use for others.

 

Long story short, this is the only move. It's not just spite. We'd actually be pretty stupid to waive him.

Edited 8 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Kelly to Allen]

15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

There absolutely is a reason to keep him on the list besides spite...

 

When you claim a player on waivers, you take on the contract of the team that waived him (in this case, the Steelers). 

 

Had Slay not been claimed, he would then become a Free Agent and that contract would remain on the Steelers book. But since we claimed him, The Steelers are now free and clear of contractual obligations.

 

It works the same way for us. If we waive him and he goes unclaimed, we are stuck paying him the remainder of that contract for the rest of the year.

 

Considering the Bills and the Eagles were the only teams to put in a claim originally before all this mess - there's no way any team claims him if we waive him. Every other team in the league knows he won't report to any team but the Eagles. And bc of that, the Eagles know that they don't need to put in a claim. They can just sign him and pay week to week vet minimum.

 

If we cut him, we would be stuck still paying for him for the rest of the season. Literally the only way to prevent that is to put him on that list and keep him there, unless he reports.

 

Also, by putting him on that list and keeping him there, we also could recoup a 5 game prorated amount from his 8.9m signing bonus. So not only could we not have to pay the contract we're currently on the hook for, we could stand to make money out of him being there that we could use for others.

 

Long story short, this is the only move. It's not just spite. We'd actually be pretty stupid to waive him.

 

This is very well put. Not to mention he could obviously change his mind in a couple weeks and the depth could obviously help. There's only upside in keeping him. 

 

Plus it has nothing to do with spite. The bills are under no obligation to help another team. That's silly 

 

 

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[Rochesterfan]

7 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Since Buffalo put Slay on the "reserved did not report" list, I wonder if they will release him after Buffalo plays Philadelphia.  There is no reason for Buffalo to keep him there indefinitely besides spite.  At the same time, I don't especially want to help a future opponent.

 

Sure there is - Philly could be your SB opponent.

 

 

[BlueRed]

What happens if Slay decides to change his mind and report to the Bills next week. I assume the Bills would either need to cut another player from the 53 to make room, or decide to release him then. 
 

If I’m Slay, I may consider this as a 4D chess move to get what he wants because I’m not sure I see the Bills cutting another player to make room for him again …

[Solomon Grundy]

15 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I would love this.

McDermott would never do this

16 hours ago, Steptide said:

Not the worst idea... 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I say Beane has to go. This BBB nickname is BS, Allen is who had saved his job.

 

Get McDermott a GM that can scout a hell of a lot better and let's see what happens.

Isn't McDermott the one who helped bring him here?

[BuffaloBillyG]

8 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Since Buffalo put Slay on the "reserved did not report" list, I wonder if they will release him after Buffalo plays Philadelphia.  There is no reason for Buffalo to keep him there indefinitely besides spite.  At the same time, I don't especially want to help a future opponent.

If this was the Slay of 3-4 years ago that may make some sense. Of course, if he was still that same player he wouldn't be on the waiver wire from Pittsburgh. 

 

The guy isn't that player anymore. In fact, he's been such a shell of himself, it would actually make more sense to let him go, sign with Philly and abuse him in a few weeks when we play the Eagles 

[Not at the table Karlos]

8 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Since Buffalo put Slay on the "reserved did not report" list, I wonder if they will release him after Buffalo plays Philadelphia.  There is no reason for Buffalo to keep him there indefinitely besides spite.  At the same time, I don't especially want to help a future opponent.

Spite is a good enough reason. 

44 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

If this was the Slay of 3-4 years ago that may make some sense. Of course, if he was still that same player he wouldn't be on the waiver wire from Pittsburgh. 

 

The guy isn't that player anymore. In fact, he's been such a shell of himself, it would actually make more sense to let him go, sign with Philly and abuse him in a few weeks when we play the Eagles 

He’s still decent in zone. He lost his man coverage skills.