Will Josh Allen want to stick around for a rebuild?

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

The Josh we hear this year hasnt, been the Josh we know and love.  Sorry but  people,and their priorities change.  To think anything else is whistling through the graveyard and wishful thinking.

 

Josh strikes me from day 1,a guy who was gonna play 10 years, 13 most. Then retire back in California 

 

Going back to the day we drafted him what makes you think he wanted to play 10 or 13 years? 

 

He literally said his favorites were Tom Brady and Brett favre both guys who pushed it to the absolute physical limit 

 

I wouldn't have those guys as my icons if I just wanted to Coast for 10 years get money and retire 

 

Those are typically guys you idolize when you have a fire.. and again as I said there are ebbs and flows two football seasons games and careers 

 

I've seen you absolutely meltdown with the Oklahoma Sooners and I was always telling you you're overreacting 

 

Josh wants to retire after 10 years well that means he'll retire as a bill next year lol

 

But he's also not going to go to the Hall of Fame if he does... Which again I think he certainly has that drive 

 

He was mad when he won the MVP because we didn't win the Super bowl... That fire just didn't disappear in 4 months 

 

It's a long season and he's feeling the grind.. he's also the guy who bounces back

Edited 58 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

The Josh we hear this year hasnt, been the Josh we know and love.  Sorry but  people,and their priorities change.  To think anything else is whistling through the graveyard and wishful thinking.

 

Josh strikes me from day 1,a guy who was gonna play 10 years, 13 most. Then retire back in California 

I see Josh like John Elway in that play as long as he can and hopefully win a ring before it's over.

[SoonerBillsFan]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

Going back to the day we drafted him what makes you think you wanted to play 10 or 13 years? 

 

He literally said his favorites were Tom Brady and Brett favre both guys who pushed it to the absolute physical limit 

 

I wouldn't have those guys as my icons if I just wanted to Coast for 10 years get money and retire 

 

Those are typically guys you idolize when you have a fire.. and again as I said there are ebbs and flows two football seasons games and careers 

 

I've seen you absolutely meltdown with the Oklahoma Sooners and I was always telling you you're overreacting 

 

Josh wants to retire after 10 years well that means he'll retire as a bill next year lol

 

But he's also not going to go to the Hall of Fame if he does... Which again I think he certainly has that drive 

 

He was mad when he won the MVP because we didn't win the Super bowl... That fire just didn't disappear in 4 months 

 

It's a long season and he's feeling the grind.. he's also the guy who bounces back

We will see.

Just now, The Jokeman said:

I see Josh like John Elway in that play as long as he can and hopefully win a ring before it's over.

Will we get a WCO in here?  Elway didnt win squat until he went from pure gun slinger to WCO. 

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, KHAN said:

The whole "We're wasting Josh" thing is a bit over dramatic. they have won 5 straight divisions and at least 1 playoff game every year since 2020. 

 

They've got issues, and I'm all ears for Beane and McD being out of rope soon if they don't get out of this up and down cycle their in right now.

 

But lets not pretend the last 8 years have been a total loss winning on average 12 games for the last 5 years.

it's very difficult to not win a lot of games scoring as many TDs as we have since Allen's been QB

 

it's equally difficult to have zero hardware under those same conditions

 

once you square that circle you can understand the angst

[SoCal Deek]

The story line is obvious. Once the Bills open their new stadium, he requests and gets traded to the Rams to replace a then retired Stafford to play under the ‘other Sean’ in Southern California to be closer to Hollywood, and home for him and the new wife. 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We will see.

Will we get a WCO in here?  Elway didnt win squat until he went from pure gun slinger to WCO. 

 

I get it it's been a frustrating season 

 

Josh is also a person who 5 days ago was laughing maniacally while trucking his way into the end zone 

 

That passion and love is still there.. like any professional who starts getting paid the most money 

 

It does SAP some of the consistent joy out of the game because it is a job you have to be business-like and take it seriously 

 

The balance is still finding that Joy.. which Josh did even have 5 days ago 

 

I don't think it's a lost cause

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We will see.

Will we get a WCO in here?  Elway didnt win squat until he went from pure gun slinger to WCO. 

Time will tell, maybe if Shanny Jr and Lynch get booted from San Fran in a few years or if we go hard for Kurt Kubiak.

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

The story line is obvious. Once the Bills open their new stadium, he requests and gets traded to the Rams to replace a then retired Stafford to play under the ‘other Sean’ in Southern California to be closer to Hollywood, and home for him and the new wife. 

 

The bills would never trade him.. we have his contract rights 

 

This is the sorry sap stuff that I talk about.. people who have this mindset literally don't think Buffalo should have nice things

 

Saying this stuff to people who live in Buffalo would literally start fights at bars.. it's easy to say that when you're living in beautiful California but you're basically saying that the City of Buffalo doesn't deserve Josh Allen and he doesn't like us

 

If he forces it I would trade him to the freaking panthers

Edited 52 minutes ago by Buffalo716

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

The story line is obvious. Once the Bills open their new stadium, he requests and gets traded to the Rams to replace a then retired Stafford to play under the ‘other Sean’ in Southern California to be closer to Hollywood, and home for him and the new wife. 

Yeah Josh isn't the least "California like" California born QBs I've seen since Elway (minus his not wanting to play for the Colts).

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

I get it it's been a frustrating season 

 

Josh is also a person who 5 days ago was laughing maniacally while trucking his way into the end zone 

 

That passion and love is still there.. like any professional who starts getting paid the most money 

 

It does SAP some of the consistent joy out of the game because it is a job you have to be business-like and take it seriously 

 

The balance is still finding that Joy.. which Josh did even have 5 days ago 

 

I don't think it's a lost cause

No, Josh should be smiling and happy as he’s getting pounded into the turf many times last night.  Clearly because he isn’t smiling then, he must want to go play for LA or San Fran.

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

The bills would never trade him.. we have his contract rights 

 

This is the sorry sap stuff that I talk about.. people who have this mindset literally don't think Buffalo should have nice things

 

If he forces it I would trade him to the freaking panthers

Na move him to the Raiders for a better draft pick and gotta feel they'd give up more.

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

The bills would never trade him.. we have his contract rights 

 

This is the sorry sap stuff that I talk about.. people who have this mindset literally don't think Buffalo should have nice things

 

Saying this stuff to people who live in Buffalo would literally start fights at bars.. it's easy to say that when you're living in beautiful California but you're basically saying that the City of Buffalo doesn't deserve Josh Allen and he doesn't like us

 

If he forces it I would trade him to the freaking panthers

Relax 716. I’m not saying any of that stuff. Professional football is a BUSINESS and his wife has a career too! Ya don’t think this has been discussed at the Allen dinner table, you’re kidding yourself. That same discussion would go on at anyone’s table. No slight of anywhere or anybody intended. 

[Slack_in_MA]

58 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Rebuilds take 5 minutes these days. It’s not some 5 year process

What a dopey comment. Might be somewhere in between.

[BananaB]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Na move him to the Raiders for a better draft pick and gotta feel they'd give up more.

Beane once said he trade himself before he’d traded Josh. Sure would solve a lot of Josh’s problems if he made that happen

Edited 48 minutes ago by BananaB

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Relax 716. I’m not saying any of that stuff. Professional football is a BUSINESS and his wife has a career too! Ya don’t think this has been discussed at the Allen dinner table, you’re kidding yourself. That same discussion would go on at anyone’s table. No slight of anywhere or anybody intended. 

You do realize a majority of celebs work more in Canada than California?

[SoCal Deek]

Jack Eichel says hello. 

Just now, The Jokeman said:

You do realize a majority of celebs work more in Canada than California?

You do realize that both Josh and Hailee have families in California, right? I see Hailee at breakfast with her Dad from time to time. 

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, BananaB said:

Beane once said he trade himself before he’d traded Josh. Sure would solve a lot of Josh’s problems if he made that happen

I'm not really advocating it, just gonna say if it ever did happen I'd send Josh to one of the more inept owners in the league.

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Jack Eichel says hello. 

You do realize that both Josh and Hailee have families in California, right? I see Hailee at breakfast with her Dad from time to time. 

Yeah and even today Josh's family always been willing to travel to Buffalo for a game. 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Relax 716. I’m not saying any of that stuff. Professional football is a BUSINESS and his wife has a career too! Ya don’t think this has been discussed at the Allen dinner table, you’re kidding yourself. That same discussion would go on at anyone’s table. No slight of anywhere or anybody intended. 

 

I don't think you're sliding me I'm just saying the people in Buffalo are proud.. 

 

All the stuff that people in the city have gone through forever from the loss of jobs.. all the sports heartbreak.. the blizzards.. even recently the tops massacre 

 

This is a city that prideful and tough and embraces people who are willing to embrace this place that we know doesn't have all the Glam and glitz of the rest of the world ... I'm not throwing hands with people at a bar if they had your opinion.. but I have seen fights break out because people have trashed Josh Allen

 

People who have little money are willing to donate to Josh's causes because we love him.. the city has rallied around Josh to the point where he is The shining light of Buffalo 

 

He's literally the best thing that's happened to the city in a long time... I'm talking the actual City and region... Even Jim Kelly was not embraced as much... 

 

Josh is a superhero to all the kids at the Cancer wards and to all the kids in the city

 

And he's the hope of all the 75 and 80 year old men who have never seen that Lombardi trophy hoisted by the bills

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I'm not really advocating it, just gonna say if it ever did happen I'd send Josh to one of the more inept owners in the league.

Yeah and even today Josh's family always been willing to travel to Buffalo for a game. 

And in another year or so they’ll be traveling across country to see their grandchild. I’m guessing they’d prefer that grandchild to be much closer than WNY. It’s just how life goes. 

[todd]

Josh isn't leaving. The cap hit of his contract and his commitment to WNY won't let him. Enough of that crap. He's staying. Other changes to the GM and Coach I'm open to after last night, but josh is going nowhere.