Lionel Hutz Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Avisan said: Y'all need therapy, and I'm not kidding or trying to be mean The Bills are a very good team that is currently a M.A.S.H. unit on defense. We are 7-4. We have already beat teams that we will be fighting with for Wild Card spots. We're getting in. The Eli Manning Giants got hot and the right time AND lucky AF and got two rings against the GOAT coach/QB combo off of it. This was a very entertaining game for a neutral observer and the Bills had a chance to win it at the end. They pulled off a beautiful hook and ladder play to make it possible. Gabe Davis in-bounds or Dawkins doesn't jump and there's a very good chance of a W. Take a deep breath, schedule an appointment, and stop basing your happiness/self-worth on how a sports team that you aren't on performs. Just getting in the playoffs should not be a marker of success for this team. McD has never won a road playoff game and this team is now 2-3 on the road and we haven’t played a playoff team on the road yet. In fact the only team we’ve beaten that is currently in a playoff spot is the Bucs and this is week 12. If you think this team has any similarities to those Giants teams you have not been paying attention. They had great defenses. Edited 59 minutes ago by Lionel Hutz 2 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: It's not that Bills fans don't deserve Allen, it's that Allen deserves to win a Lombardi, and can't do it with the rosters assembled by Beane. Allen deserves better. Who says that? Warren Moon deserved to win a Super bowl and he didn't .. same with Jim Kelly But Nick foles a career backup has a Super bowl win as a starter That is the NFL.. Jim Kelly didn't deserve better... Josh is getting paid $350 million and he is the most beloved person in Buffalo No he has everything he's ever dreamed of There are plenty of first-round quarterbacks who don't last 5 years... Josh Allen has everything a human being could ever want.. money a beautiful woman an entire city that adores him Edited 58 minutes ago by Buffalo716 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago This team looks exhausted from Super Bowl or bust expectations. It’s one thing to rally when you’re new to a situation and you have belief, but these guys know how long a road this is and how difficult it gets, and to be perfectly honest I don’t think they have the will to rally like they once did. The message is old. The roster is weak. The resolve is fading. The fans are feeling the same thing. 1 2 Quote
JohnNord Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago 38 minutes ago, Rigotz said: I feel like it’s becoming more and more rare than I enjoy watching a Bills game. Maybe it’s the impending doom feeling that we have a unicorn QB and still find a way to mess it up. Its the whole history of the team, the coach, the GM… When they win, I feel relieved. When they lose, I feel devastated. Any tips? What do you all do to disengage and try to actually enjoy this? To be honest, I hate how these games make me feel and how we amplified something something (relatively) insignificant that’s supposed to entertainment into something that negatively affects our mood. 1 1 Quote
Success Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago Just to zag a bit - we definitely DO have points in every season that feel like this. And we literally always finish strong. We're an amazing December team. And we wouldn't feel nearly as low if the Pats weren't having their resurgence - which I agree w/ Newton is kind of fool's gold right now, but they will win the division barring something unusual. I'll still get stoked if we make the playoffs, though - and keep on hoping. Quote
JohnNord Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: outside of Allen, the talent on this team is likely worse than some drought teams This is not true 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Bean and McD need to go. Need to start over. No college coach, NHL, NBA, etc coach or GM/AD would get this long of a leash with a top 3 player for 8 years and no championship. And fans wanting a championship and watching Allen be squandered by an inept HC and GM are not spoiled. John elway didn't win his Super bowls till his like 17th and 18th year in the league John elway The Golden boy.. the guy who left the elway cross Dan Marino's the greatest pure passer ever zero Super bowls To say Josh Allen has to leave us because we don't deserve him is Ludacris.. we do nothing but go to the playoffs every year and give him a chance to win Edited 56 minutes ago by Buffalo716 Quote
Rigotz Posted 56 minutes ago Author Posted 56 minutes ago 32 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Yes. How soon everyone forgets the 17 year drought. I haven’t forgotten. Somehow I enjoyed those years almost as much. Expectations were low, the draft was more fun, and there was always the hope that we would get the next big guy. Now we have him and it feels like we’re blowing it every single year. It’s the added pressure of expectations and disappointment when another year of prime unicorn goes by. 1 Quote
Avisan Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Lionel Hutz said: Just getting in the playoffs should not be a marker of success for this team. McD has never won a road playoff game and this team is now 2-3 on the road and we haven’t played a playoff team on the road yet. In fact the only team we’ve beaten that is currently in a playoff spot is the Bucs and this is week 12. If you think this team has any similarities to those Giants teams you have not been paying attention. They had great defenses. Getting into the playoffs gets you a shot at the big dance. There is no causation for why a head coach would be able to win at home but not on the road, it's fun narrative fodder for talk shows, but it's just that. The Bills have an average defense and y'all act like it's the end of the world. Luck and matchups will determine our odds in the postseason, same as every team every year. Quote
<bills4life> Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: This has way more to do with the mentality of Bills fans than it has anything else We were destitute for 18 years.. Got a sniff of success and became as spoiled as Patriots fans.. you could read it here on posts everyday The fact you can go from beatin and downtrodden to spoiled in a 9-year span is ridiculous It usually takes 20 years of success... This fan base is tremendously good but it also has the flip side that is tremendously masochist and hurt that they would rather say let's trade Josh Then try to just make the team better We go from downtrodden to having a superstar to not thinking we deserve that Superstar Dude this is the NFL.. Buffalo Bills deserve Josh Allen after 65 years Spoiled my a**. What success do you speak of? We haven’t even made it to the Super Bowl, let alone win one. So we won some afc east titles. Big deal. If this is your measure of success you have some extremely low expectations. 1 1 Quote
US Egg Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago Yes, the game was an emotional roller coaster and was still there for the taking until the last seconds. That’s entertainment . 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, <bills4life> said: Spoiled my a**. What success do you speak of? We haven’t even made it to the Super Bowl, let alone win one. So we won some afc east titles. Big deal. If this is your measure of success you have some extremely low expectations. You're making my point if the bills do nothing but win a Super bowl it's destitute and there's nothing But guess what even the '90s bills four straight AFC championships is an extreme accomplishment This board would rather focus on the negative then something good the team accomplishes throughout the season That's the masochism Trade Josh Allen because he doesn't deserve this is the masochism This city has loved him unconditionally and adopted him as a son.. any NFL player would fall in love with that and what it means He's a small town farm boy this is what he dreamed of... We're in the playoffs every year where the ball is in his hands to win Edited 53 minutes ago by Buffalo716 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago Having watched the Bills since 1987 or so yes. As 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Who says that? Warren Moon deserved to win a Super bowl and he didn't .. same with Jim Kelly But Nick foles a career backup has a Super bowl win as a starter That is the NFL.. Jim Kelly didn't deserve better... Josh is getting paid $350 million and he is the most beloved person in Buffalo No he has everything he's ever dreamed of Dan Marino deserved one too, gotta wonder if we'd won one had drafted him instead of Kelly. Eh probably not as butterfly effect of Kelly going to USFL lead us to be in position to draft. But hey had we drafted Jerry Rice instead of Derrick Burroughs...so many rabbit holes to go down. What if we don't trade up for JP Losman and draft Aaron Rodgers following year.... Quote
Buffalo716 Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Having watched the Bills since 1987 or so yes. As Dan Marino deserved one too, gotta wonder if we'd won one had drafted him instead of Kelly. Eh probably not as butterfly effect of Kelly going to USFL lead us to be in position to draft. But hey had we drafted Jerry Rice instead of Derrick Burroughs...so many rabbit holes to go down. What if we don't trade up for JP Losman and draft Aaron Rodgers following year.... My father's been watching since 1960 and he doesn't complain The bills losing the AFC championship and he says oh well good year we'll get them next year He was a college football coach.. I don't get that down because I never saw my father get that down Football players and coaches usually have a high resiliency Edited 48 minutes ago by Buffalo716 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, JohnNord said: This is not true Marshawn Lynch, Lee Evans, Fred Jackson, Stevie Johnson, Kelsey, Poz, Stroud, Whitner, Kyle, McGee, Schobel. I mean I just picked one random year. Forget about the Takeo years or the Mario years. We have had more talent in the drought years multiple times and for long stretches. We just didn’t have a quarterback. 1 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago Just now, Buffalo716 said: My father's been watching since 1960 and he doesn't complain The bills losing the AFC championship and he says oh well good year we'll get them next year He was a college football coach.. I don't get that down because I never saw my father get that down I used to get angry for days on end but that's was my teen age years. Sure I'm angry post game but by tomorrow it'll just be another game. 1 Quote
Preds Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago (edited) Aside from enjoying Josh when he's being Josh and Cook when he's being Cook, there has not been much to enjoy with this team since 13 seconds when McDummy should have been fired. Every day since that point is just another day of Josh's career being wasted by a vastly overrated front office and coaching staff. Edited 46 minutes ago by Preds Quote
T.E. Posted 46 minutes ago Posted 46 minutes ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: This team looks exhausted from Super Bowl or bust expectations. It’s one thing to rally when you’re new to a situation and you have belief, but these guys know how long a road this is and how difficult it gets, and to be perfectly honest I don’t think they have the will to rally like they once did. The message is old. The roster is weak. The resolve is fading. The fans are feeling the same thing. They've never been a terribly strong team from a mental standpoint anyway. A season like this with a bunch of speed bumps is only going to get worse. Edited 39 minutes ago by T.E. 1 Quote
<bills4life> Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: You're making my point if the bills do nothing but win a Super bowl it's destitute and there's nothing But guess what even the '90s bills four straight AFC championships is an extreme accomplishment This board would rather focus on the negative then something good the team accomplishes throughout the season That's the masochism Trade Josh Allen because he doesn't deserve this is the masochism This city has loved him unconditionally and adopted him as a son.. any NFL player would fall in love with that and what it means He's a small town farm boy this is what he dreamed of... We're in the playoffs every year where the ball is in his hands to win The bolded is exactly right. I never said they had to win it. They can’t even get there with a Josh Allen as your qb. That’s a real problem. His stats in the playoffs are the best in history and it still isn’t enough. That’s a real problem. They have accomplished nothing. To insinuate that we are spoiled is absurd. Gut wrenching losses in the playoffs year in and out. I never said trade him, but make no mistake they are wasting him. Tragic really. 1 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago The Bills are cooked. I am too frustrated with how inept it all is to watch the rest of the season. I will pick it back up before the draft. My blood pressure cant handle it. Take er easy boys. Quote
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