$55m to run 13

[BillMafia716ix]

Well under Daboll Josh was a turnover machine. I like our run first approach but the passing offense has to be schemed better and it starts with the personnel.

[BillsFan130]

4 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Well under Daboll Josh was a turnover machine. I like our run first approach but the passing offense has to be schemed better and it starts with the personnel.

I think the most simple way of saying the difference between dabs and Brady is:

 

The ceiling is higher with Daboll, the floor is higher with Brady.

 

I would still take the higher ceiling all day long when JA17 is the QB

[BillsShredder83]

2 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

I miss the Daboll offenses. Trubisky could throw these dumb tunnel screens. Seems like were wasting Allen and yup the handling of WR position is malpractice by the front office.

Dont let todays news and yesterdays anger influence you.... Daboll had the most stacked WR room in league. Prime Diggs & Beasley. Jon Brown. Emmanuel Sanders.

 

That team couldnt put up points last year with Daniel Jones & Nabers.  Anyone forgetting Danny Dimes looks like Joe Montana the second he left NY, and Nabers was the top WR outta that draft.... now Danny isnt what he looks like right now (i dont think), but he also isnt as bad as he was with NYG.... its somewhere in between.

 

Anybody thinking Daboll comes in here and lights it up with Keon, Shakir, and Palmer is highhhhhhhh on cracccccccc.

 

No more spinning our tires with our old friends, thats part of the reason we are where we are.  I actually like idea of bringing in a Failed HC, who was once a good Coordinator, but we don't have any evidence that Daboll was ever a good Coordinator.  I dont even want anybody "Good", I want someone elite at both coordinator spots

[Haslett_Stomp]

Anyone recall when the offense was putting up great numbers statistically under Dorsey yet almost every play seemed like a struggle to execute?

[TheFunPolice]

Anyone buy the story that McDermott really wanted/wants WR help and is frustrated with Beane?

 

I think this is the offense McDermott wants in terms of philosophy. Low event football. 

 

It works a lot especially because there is a lot of awful football played around the league. 

 

[BananaB]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

This is what happens when you have a $14m QB.  We don’t, so we should rely on that guy to overcome weaknesses elsewhere.  But we play slow and under center and make no effort to attack in that way.  

Colts drafted everyone but Downs who’s been kicked around the league a bit.  The WRs were day 2 picks. It’s got nothing to do with money. 

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

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[mannc]

1 hour ago, BananaB said:

Colts drafted everyone but Downs who’s been kicked around the league a bit.  The WRs were day 2 picks. It’s got nothing to do with money. 

Downs was a Colt draft pick.

[BananaB]

20 minutes ago, mannc said:

Downs was a Colt draft pick.

Just adds to my point. Don’t follow many teams,  for some reason I thought he bounced around the league a bit

Edited 2 hours ago by BananaB

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think the most simple way of saying the difference between dabs and Brady is:

 

The ceiling is higher with Daboll, the floor is higher with Brady.

 

I said this myself just a few weeks ago but it's not really true anymore. The Atlanta and Miami offensive performances were as bad as anything we got under Daboll or Dorsey. Well I guess the Jags 9-6 loss really stands above the rest but that was an outlier of all outliers. Brady's offense has been fully dissected and studied by DCs across the league and without the element of surprise/unpredictability the bottom has dropped out in a hurry.

[Chicken Boo]

7 hours ago, Brand J said:

He hasn’t been utilized as a superstar QB this season, nor is he consistently playing like one. I’m all for a shakeup offensively. You think the Colts have better pieces on offense than we do? I don’t, yet they’re putting up numbers under Steichen. Get a coordinator in here who excels in the passing game and watch the offense elevate to higher ground.

 

Aside from QB, the Colts absolutely have better pieces on offense.

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, Brand J said:

 

If Josh was throwing to Tyler Warren, Alec Pierce, Josh Downs, and Michael Pittman Jr, with Joe Brady calling plays, it’d be much of the same.

 

No. It really wouldn't. The Bills receivers are the worst in the NFL. There are downfield shots called in this offense. Josh keeps coming off them and going underneath because there is nobody open. Give Brady the Colts weapons this offense looks very different. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, mannc said:

Downs was a Colt draft pick.

 

Since 2018:

 

Colts Round 1 WR: 0

Colts Round 1 TE: 1

Colts Round 2/3 WR: 5

Colts Round 2/3 TE: 1

 

Bills Round 1 WR: 0

Bills Round 1 TE: 1

Bills Round 2/3 WR: 1

Bills Round 2/3 TE: 1

 

 

The Colts are actually the perfect example of if you don't want to spend a first on receivers you have to keep throwing day 2 picks at them. It was a successful model for the Steelers for years too. 

 

Since Beane has been GM here no team in the entire NFL has drafted fewer WRs in the first two days of the NFL draft. Just one. Keon Coleman (and that one is a bust). 32/32. And now we have the worst receiving corps in the league. Is it any wonder???