2026 Cap

[davefan66]

Those contracts with void years can be extended, which from what I read will extend the cap hit further freeing space.

 

If so, Bosa, Oganjobi and possibly McGovern would be the targets to extend. 
 

No way is Milano extended. Jones probably won’t be either.

[BillsFan2313]

18 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

So where can the Bills create cap space.  

1) Cut Knox.  Savings $9.6 mill

 

2) Restructure, Taron Johnson, Dawkins, and Oliver.  All carry dead cap less than their 2026 cap hit but only about $3 mill per player.  A restructure likely creates more space

 

3) Cut Bass - cap savings 2.9 mill

 

4) Cut Rapp - Cap savings 3.5

 

5) Cut Samuel - Cap Savings $6.3

 

6) 

 

Yeah, we can get to $40 million in space pretty easily

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Oddly, I feel like they extend Torrence before they even think of re-signing Edwards or McGovern. Beane likes to pay his picks. 

No doubt. It’s just a feeling. I think that he gets a deal bigger than Robert Hunt just got (5 years $100M and $63M guaranteed). They can get a lot for him. I suggested dealing him and a pick for Higgins. It potentially better balances the Bills and Bengals. They’d plug Anderson into that spot. 

7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

I'm not sure that's true for a contract that is expired.  For example with Tre White, he was still under contract and by giving him a June 1 designation the Bills saved about $10 mill (if memory serves).  How Milano, Bosa, McGovern etc.. all are on expiring contracts.  

That’s what over the cap says anyways. It’s posted earlier in the thread.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Instead of cutting Samuel we should be starting him. Get Colman off the field and give him to the guy that can actually play in this league 

[LABILLBACKER]

18 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

He'd have to come back this year AND finish strong to sniff a 3rd, I think. For exactly the reasons you mentioned. 

 

It's a criticism way down the list at this point, but part of Beane's over-commitment to his own draft picks means we never deal a guy when his value will actually net us something positive in return. Isn't it kinda weird that in 8 seasons he's NEVER moved one of his draft picks for a sizable return in trade? 

I could understand that strategy if he was actually good at drafting players, but he's not. Not even Cooper moved the needle much.

[GroteStreet]

51 minutes ago, ngbills said:

These extensions are starting to look bad - Milano, Knox, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau, Oliver, Johnson and even Shakir. The Cook deal is one of the best and they resisted doing it. Imagine this a O right now without Cook. They knew going into the season what the plan was and still treated Cook like an interchangeable piece. The cap mngt, free agents, trade deadlines make me wonder what beane is doing. 

beane wonders what beane is doing.

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too

what's the deal with IR'd players whose contract expires? Does the team say it's been nice having you?

 

Bass comes with a $6MM dead cap hit - BTW

Edited 1 hour ago by BearNorth

[quincy]

Torrence is durable and hasn't missed a start since being drafted. 

 

it would be so ironic that we trade a player who stays on the field compared to the Oliver's, Benford's, Milano's, just to name a few, who have been extended.

 

Having said that I think a trade of Torrence is a possibility because of all the previous accumulated mismanagement of the McBeane era. 

[Flipnmi]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I believe that if extended though the Bills can spread that cap hit out. For example if they bring back McGovern and Bosa they can take those “void year hits” and roll them into the new deal. They can also designate Jones and Milano as post-June 1 and save about $7M for next year. 

Milano's contract expires at the end of this year after he restructured this summer and his 2026 cap figure is a void year. Conclusion = no cap 2026 savings available unless he is resigned and the void money is rolled into a new deal as you have stated. Obviously this scenerio is highly unlikely in this case. 

[Uncle Stucky]

1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

You had me at cut Samuel and gain money

Knox should go to jail for that contract. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Uncle Stucky

[tigerthelion]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

These extensions are starting to look bad - Milano, Knox, Bernard, Benford, Rousseau, Oliver, Johnson and even Shakir. The Cook deal is one of the best and they resisted doing it. Imagine this a O right now without Cook. They knew going into the season what the plan was and still treated Cook like an interchangeable piece. The cap mngt, free agents, trade deadlines make me wonder what beane is doing. 

Yeah, i was thinking about Shakir yesterday and I am starting to think that extension was too much money.  He is a good player, but can disappear too easily, especially when nobody else requires much attention by the opposing defense.

Edited 59 minutes ago by tigerthelion

[VW82]

Serious question: do you guys want Bills to turn over every rock to create 2026 space? 
 

I ask because that just kicks the can down the road. Eventually you have to pay the piper. I’m starting to wonder if we’re not better off taking our lumps sooner to get out of this regime and starting over in 2027 with a clean slate. 
 

This would involve Terry prematurely firing McBeane with multiple years left on their extensions and any new FO taking a step back year in year one. Probably not going to happen because it’s impossible to justify to a broader fan base after years of winning. 
 

I’m just finally losing confidence enough in leadership where this scenario makes some sense, especially because we’re basically F’d next couple years with cap in terms of meaningful improvements unless we F ourselves even further in 2027 and beyond.

[Pecker]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I am no capologist but was messing around on there last night. I expect Milano, Knox, Taron, Jones and Samuel to all be gone. A couple of them will carry a post-June 1 designation. 
 

edit: I forgot Rapp and Bass too

They just restructured Johnson.  What a stupid move that was. 

[Kirby Jackson]

42 minutes ago, Flipnmi said:

Milano's contract expires at the end of this year after he restructured this summer and his 2026 cap figure is a void year. Conclusion = no cap 2026 savings available unless he is resigned and the void money is rolled into a new deal as you have stated. Obviously this scenerio is highly unlikely in this case. 

I was just using over the cap. They are saying that the hit cap be split with post June 1. 🤷🏻‍♂️