CincyBillsFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: I think Joe Burrow is really good. I also have traditionally rooted for Joe Flacco. However, with what Joe has been able to do in Cincy I have to ask...is Burrow really THAT good? I am hoping that we get the Flacco that we played the year before when he was in Indy. One thing that they haven't mentioned while talking about the 470 yards and 4 TD's is that Flacco also threw 2 INT's and he lost a fumble. Burrow is likely to have had less TO's to go along with his high end production. 1 Quote
finn Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 48 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: One thing that they haven't mentioned while talking about the 470 yards and 4 TD's is that Flacco also threw 2 INT's and he lost a fumble. Burrow is likely to have had less TO's to go along with his high end production. Yeah, but you're comparing an ancient Flacco to a guy who is his prime. I think Burrow might be overrated. Think of what Allen could do with those receivers. Either one would instantly be the best WR on the team. By not getting him a true WR1 since Diggs, Beane has done a disservice not just to Allen and the Bills but to the entire NFL community, who haven't had the pleasure of seeing what the best QB in the league can really do. It's like Usain Bolt running with a weight vest. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said: One thing that they haven't mentioned while talking about the 470 yards and 4 TD's is that Flacco also threw 2 INT's and he lost a fumble. Burrow is likely to have had less TO's to go along with his high end production. I remember "Tiny Hands, Frosted Tips" used to have issues holding onto balls as well...except maybe his center's... Edited 1 hour ago by Big Turk Quote
Shortchaz Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, finn said: Yeah, but you're comparing an ancient Flacco to a guy who is his prime. I think Burrow might be overrated. Think of what Allen could do with those receivers. Either one would instantly be the best WR on the team. By not getting him a true WR1 since Diggs, Beane has done a disservice not just to Allen and the Bills but to the entire NFL community, who haven't had the pleasure of seeing what the best QB in the league can really do. It's like Usain Bolt running with a weight vest. I think it speaks to limitations of even a “high powered” offense. You’re unlikely to score on every drive regardless of your prowess. I think this is the argument many posters have been making for a better defense. i.e. One high paid receiver is unlikely to improve your offense absolutely if you’re already a great offense. You only have x amount of possessions. Edited 1 hour ago by Shortchaz Quote
Big Turk Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: I think it speaks to limitations of even a “high powered” offense. You’re unlikely to score on every drive regardless of your prowess. I think this is the argument many posters have been making for a better defense. i.e. One high paid receiver is unlikely to improve your offense absolutely if you’re already a great offense. You only have x amount of possessions. The Bills are the #1 ranked offense in the NFL. I mean at some point people just have to accept they can be good in ways that they don't agree with and score a crap ton of points without having to throw 50 yard bombs. Edited 56 minutes ago by Big Turk Quote
Scott7975 Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, Big Turk said: The Bills are the #1 ranked offense in the NFL. I mean at some point people just have to accept they can be good in ways that they don't agree with and score a crap ton of points without having to throw 50 yard bombs. Sigh. I don't know why people keep saying "50 yard bombs." Most people are just talking about having an intermediate game of anything from 10-20ish yards. Notice in the KC game they had some downfield explosive plays. Those weren't 50 yard bombs. It was however, what most people were talking about. Throwing balls behind the los to Shakir is only going to work so long. I'm surprised they got away with it as many times as they did against KC considering they do it about 5 times a game. The team needs to be able to turn it on when they are down. Twice they haven't been able to this year and its why we are in a division race that has a good chance of not breaking our way like it did last season. Pats are good and they have the softest schedule in the league. They aren't Miami that are going to lose their last 6 to give us the division back. The offense is good when we have a lead or within a score. Not so much when you are down multiple scores and lack time. 1 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 31 minutes ago, Big Turk said: The Bills are the #1 ranked offense in the NFL. I mean at some point people just have to accept they can be good in ways that they don't agree with and score a crap ton of points without having to throw 50 yard bombs. That’s fine but let’s see if this recipe finally works in the playoffs when it actually matters. Would be nice to stretch the field with someone other than an often injured TE Quote
finn Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago 37 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: I think it speaks to limitations of even a “high powered” offense. You’re unlikely to score on every drive regardless of your prowess. I think this is the argument many posters have been making for a better defense. i.e. One high paid receiver is unlikely to improve your offense absolutely if you’re already a great offense. You only have x amount of possessions. It depends on what you mean by "great." I don't think this offense is great at this point, do you? Very good, balanced, efficient at times, but not great. And that's just my point. With two and possibly even one top receiver, this very offense has the potential for true (like historical) greatness. It has the offensive line, the back, the tight ends, and certainly the quarterback. All it lacks (putting aside the coordinator) is at least one elite wide receiver. They wouldn't need to score on every drive, just one or two more times a game than they are now. That is what I mean by Beane letting us all down by settling for Shakir and a bunch of backups. I get it, he has a lot of holes to plug on defense. I don't even blame him, really, although I think a historic offense could just outscore everyone. But it's a bit sad to think what we're missing. Quote
Buffalo Ballin Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago We want a better defense to eat clock. That's all that is. Quote
BigAl2526 Posted 4 minutes ago Posted 4 minutes ago On 11/3/2025 at 1:55 PM, Success said: This can be the start of a nice run for us in the next month+. No one is "easy" (Miami rarely is, though the record w/ them is lopsided), but every team that we play until the Pats is a team we should beat. I think the silver lining of New England being real competition is that it will help prevent any let-ups. We're in a tight division race & every week matters. The pressure is still on for sure. Quote
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