Pete Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 8 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Uh oh, now Beane is going to go to that studio and yell “we don’t need WR, it’s not fantasy football, I know what to do, you don’t” 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted 11 hours ago Author Posted 11 hours ago On 10/15/2025 at 6:22 AM, Kirby Jackson said: I’ve always liked Meyers and think he’s a good receiver. He’d be a really good number 2. You need another 400-500 yard receiver? He’s going to get you 800-900. You need a 1100-1200 yard receiver? He’s going to get you 800-900. Lol, he feels like the “Final Boss of JAG WRs.” He is the “Thanos of Everybody Eats.” 🤣🤣 If you were to take the top 32ish WRs in the NFL off the board and then start ranking guys 33 to last, he would be near the top of the list (and all other Bills WRs would check in after him). This just occurred to me: is the Bills receiving corps the trash mob you have to fight your way through to get to the final boss of the JAGs? 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 9 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: This just occurred to me: is the Bills receiving corps the trash mob you have to fight your way through to get to the final boss of the JAGs? 1 Quote
boyst Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 17 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: This just occurred to me: is the Bills receiving corps the trash mob you have to fight your way through to get to the final boss of the JAGs? i wonder what it was like to be a Falcons fans when Peerless Price went to play for them? or Alvin Harper to the Bucs? I remember Langston Walker Hype, and Terrel Owens hype here... but are we in denial to think Amani Cooper or Beasley 2.0 was different? Quote
Gregg Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 22 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: This just occurred to me: is the Bills receiving corps the trash mob you have to fight your way through to get to the final boss of the JAGs? I think Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis, and Lou Piccone at their current ages could do a better job than the WR's the Bills currently have. Good job Beane. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 35 minutes ago, boyst said: i wonder what it was like to be a Falcons fans when Peerless Price went to play for them? or Alvin Harper to the Bucs? I remember Langston Walker Hype, and Terrel Owens hype here... but are we in denial to think Amani Cooper or Beasley 2.0 was different? I think there’s certainly truth here but we are in a unique situation. I wouldn’t say that the Bills WR room “needs upgrading.” I would say “it is a bottom 3 group in the NFL and maybe last.” The best WR on the team is Shakir. He’s a good player. He’s a top 5-10 slot option and tough after the catch. He’s maybe a top 45-50ish WR. The next best WR on the team is Josh Palmer. Is he one of the 60-70 best receivers in football? Keon is probably somewhere between 80-105. These guys we are talking about aren’t elite (with the exception of AJ Brown or Garrett Wilson and those are extreme LONG shots). Olave is probably in the 25ish range. Meyers is in the 35ish range. Shaheed is in the Shakir range but a different player. Bourne is playing like a very good WR. I think we are crazy to expect these guys to come in and dominate. At the same time, pretty much every guy we have listed is, as good, or better than our best. That isn’t overvaluing them. It’s more of an indictment on how bad the room currently is. If you put any of the names mentioned on one side, Palmer on the other and Shakir in the slot, you aren’t great there. You’re barely acceptable (sans the stars). At the same time if you have the 25th, 47th and 63rd best receivers in football (or whatever) starting, that’s a big step up from 47th, 63rd and 92nd. If you ever added 2 of them….. Edited 10 hours ago by Kirby Jackson 2 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago the giants are in on waddle and or Olave apparently. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25261153-chris-olave-jaylen-waddle-reportedly-among-giants-trade-targets-nfl-deadline Quote
boyst Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think there’s certainly truth here but we are in a unique situation. I wouldn’t say that the Bills WR room “needs upgrading.” I would say “it is a bottom 3 group in the NFL and maybe last.” The best WR on the team is Shakir. He’s a good player. He’s a top 5-10 slot option and tough after the catch. He’s maybe a top 45-50ish WR. The next best WR on the team is Josh Palmer. Is he one of the 60-70 best receivers in football? Keon is probably somewhere between 80-105. These guys we are talking about aren’t elite (with the exception of AJ Brown or Garrett Wilson and those are extreme LONG shots). Olave is probably in the 25ish range. Meyers is in the 35ish range. Shaheed is in the Shakir range but a different player. Bourne is playing like a very good WR. I think we are crazy to expect these guys to come in and dominate. At the same time, pretty much every guy we have listed is, as good, or better than our best. That isn’t overvaluing them. It’s more of an indictment on how bad the room currently is. If you put any of the names mentioned on one side, Palmer on the other and Shakir in the slot, you aren’t great there. You’re barely acceptable (sans the stars). At the same time if you have the 25th, 47th and 63rd best receivers in football (or whatever) starting, that’s a big step up from 47th, 63rd and 92nd. If you ever added 2 of them….. That becomes the issue because then it's a numbers game. Throwing 2 mediocre wide receivers on the roster to elevate the position group doesn't raise the bar on the field like we needed to do We need to find a way to get a top 30 receiver on the outside will elevate the game put us in a position to have a stronger on-field presence. We don't want to take cook off the field, we don't want to take Kincaid off the field, so we have three other positions available to play with that starts to cause trouble. I suppose knocks and Shakir are somewhat interchangeable for down and distance. One of the additions would be a top end wide receiver, the trade Target. But then we have to leave room for the number two number three guy, whether that's Coleman, Palmer, or creating a different lineup and going heavy with someone the likes of Jackson Hawes. As much as I want to improve our wide receiver unit at any cost I don't want to do it with a middling guy who doesn't give us increased talent and only creates a position to fill. I have high standards in hopes for this and Christian Olave is about the floor of my ceiling. Garrett Wilson would be a fever dream, Jacoby Myers might be a little bit better than Olave. But regardless it is it bad situation we put ourselves in. Edited 9 hours ago by boyst 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Sal Mairoana on some potential trade candidates. in short, CB's Alontae Taylor, Tariq Woolen, Eric Stokes wr' Chris Olave, Rasheed Shaheed, jakobi meyers or wait for Gabe davis to get healthy https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/10/16/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-include-jakobi-meyers/86689724007/ Edited 9 hours ago by MikePJ76 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 22 minutes ago, boyst said: That it comes the issue because then it's a numbers game. Throwing 2 mediocre wide receivers on the roster to elevate the position group doesn't raise the bar on the field like we needed to do We need to find a way to get a top 30 receiver on the outside will elevate the game put us in a position to have a stronger on-field presence. We don't want to take cook off the field, we don't want to take Kincaid off the field, so we have three other positions available to play with that starts to cause trouble. I suppose knocks and Shakir are somewhat interchangeable for down and distance. One of the additions would be a top end wide receiver, the trade Target. But then we have to leave room for the number two number three guy, whether that's Coleman, Palmer, or creating a different lineup and going heavy with someone the likes of Jackson Hawes. As much as I want to improve our wide receiver unit at any cost I don't want to do it with a middling guy who doesn't give us increased talent and only creates a position to fill. I have high standards in hopes for this and Christian Olave is about the floor of my ceiling. Garrett Wilson would be a fever dream, Jacoby Myers might be a little bit better than Olave. But regardless it is it bad situation we put ourselves in. I’m assuming that Samuel or another receiver goes out in the deal (maybe even Coleman if they are fed up with him). It should just be a roster “swap out” with everyone getting bumped down a spot. It’s not perfect and I 100% agree it’s a bad situation. It doesn’t “solve” the problem but it does improve the situation (at least some). 1 2 Quote
boyst Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 18 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Sal Mairoana on some potential trade candidates. in short, CB's Alontae Taylor, Tariq Woolen, Eric Stokes wr' Chris Olave, Rasheed Shaheed, jakobi meyers or wait for Gabe davis to get healthy https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/10/16/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-include-jakobi-meyers/86689724007/ CB+WR+Davis Just now, Kirby Jackson said: I’m assuming that Samuel or another receiver goes out in the deal (maybe even Coleman if they are fed up with him). It should just be a roster “swap out” with everyone getting bumped down a spot. It’s not perfect and I 100% agree it’s a bad situation. It doesn’t “solve” the problem but it does improve the situation (at least some). 1000% up for letting Coleman go find a new home. I'd even be up for sending someone to Carolina for Tetirlltoroeoeoio the guy who's name I can't pronounce. 1 Quote
Pete Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 25 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Sal Mairoana on some potential trade candidates. in short, CB's Alontae Taylor, Tariq Woolen, Eric Stokes wr' Chris Olave, Rasheed Shaheed, jakobi meyers or wait for Gabe davis to get healthy https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2025/10/16/buffalo-bills-trade-rumors-include-jakobi-meyers/86689724007/ I like all the above, except Meyers. Repeat after me Beane- No more slot receivers. No more Slot Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I’m thinking Randy Moss. Maybe Megatron. Or how about both? Quote
boyst Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Pete said: I like all the above, except Meyers. Repeat after me Beane- No more slot receivers. No more Slot Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. I don't mind Meyers because of forward thinking. he's a bit overpriced, though. my thought with the game - mind you i was 2 years early - was that power running is going to make a comeback with defenses getting lighter and faster. IMO the league will continue to go toward bodies on bodies to beat the speed and take advantage of the smaller guys. this will be taken advantage of with larger slots like Myers who is taller than heavier (6'2, 190ish). Coleman is 6'3, 215 and I want him in the big slot role. Even if that means double slots or taking Shakir off the field from time to time. Shakir may only have 2-3 years left on his body the way he plays and taking it across the middle. anyway, that's why I would be ok with Myers as long as we got someone else. It comes down to a numbers game and making a scheme work. we can assume 1 of 2 things 1) we see Cook on the field more because the HC wants it so 2) we don't see Cook on the field more because we just don't. If that means we go to having a bigger slot on the field like Myers to block for Cook than so be it - if scenario 1 becomes true. If that means we have a bigger slot on 3rd down for short yardage situations because Cook isn't on the field than scenario 2 makes it ok. I'd not mind Meyers if we also got a Olave or someone. 1 Quote
Bruffalo Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: I’m thinking Randy Moss. Maybe Megatron. Or how about both? Dez Bryant is available too. 1 Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Gregg said: I think Jerry Butler, Frank Lewis, and Lou Piccone at their current ages could do a better job than the WR's the Bills currently have. Good job Beane. As a kid, I loved Jerry Butler, remember when he lit up the Jets for 255 yards think they called those Hail Mary’s Big Ben Plays back then made a 12 year old Jersey Bills’ fan very happy. 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: I’m thinking Randy Moss. Maybe Megatron. Or how about both? Why not go after Andre Johnson while we're at it. 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Pete said: I like all the above, except Meyers. Repeat after me Beane- No more slot receivers. No more Slot Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. Must get Outside Receivers. I keep going back to, “does adding Meyers and subtracting Samuel/Coleman/Moore” make you better or worse? That’s a rhetorical question. Adding the best receiver on your roster makes you better. Is he ideal? No. Is he absolutely an upgrade? Yes. The Bills have backed themselves into a corner where they have to get better even if it isn’t perfect. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 45 minutes ago, boyst said: That becomes the issue because then it's a numbers game. Throwing 2 mediocre wide receivers on the roster to elevate the position group doesn't raise the bar on the field like we needed to do We need to find a way to get a top 30 receiver on the outside will elevate the game put us in a position to have a stronger on-field presence. We don't want to take cook off the field, we don't want to take Kincaid off the field, so we have three other positions available to play with that starts to cause trouble. I suppose knocks and Shakir are somewhat interchangeable for down and distance. One of the additions would be a top end wide receiver, the trade Target. But then we have to leave room for the number two number three guy, whether that's Coleman, Palmer, or creating a different lineup and going heavy with someone the likes of Jackson Hawes. As much as I want to improve our wide receiver unit at any cost I don't want to do it with a middling guy who doesn't give us increased talent and only creates a position to fill. I have high standards in hopes for this and Christian Olave is about the floor of my ceiling. Garrett Wilson would be a fever dream, Jacoby Myers might be a little bit better than Olave. But regardless it is it bad situation we put ourselves in. This is probably true overall but I really do think having even just one more pretty good wr could move the needle a good amount. Even that would be much better than nothing imo but obviously the better the guy you can get the better it is the depth is pretty dreadful if Palmer goes down which was a huge issue Monday night. Shavers/moore were about as bad as you could get at route adjustments it was like they’ve never played football before lol 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I keep going back to, “does adding Meyers and subtracting Samuel/Coleman/Moore” make you better or worse? That’s a rhetorical question. Adding the best receiver on your roster makes you better. Is he ideal? No. Is he absolutely an upgrade? Yes. The Bills have backed themselves into a corner where they have to get better even if it isn’t perfect. I agree Meyers replacing Moore is an upgrade to me but is he going to be at his playing on the outside? No so to me it's the whole square peg in a circle hole. Quote
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