Brandon Beane - failing Josh Allen

[Walking Tall]

17 minutes ago, VW82 said:

Prove it

Strong comeback. 🙄

15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

ill wait for the game tape but like i said in another thread i can pretty much guarantee youll see bad route combos, poor wr play, and allen leaving pockets to buy wrs time to get free 

 

tape will not be kind to the offense this week

Remember that play when Allen rolled to his left to evade pressure….and kept looking and scanning the field for a good 5 to 7 seconds before he had to run.

 

Nobody could get open. That was screaming for a huge play but his receivers couldn’t oblige.

Edited 8 hours ago by Walking Tall

[PauleeeWalnuts]

13 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Hairston
Sanders
Coleman
Bishop
Kincaid
Torrence
Elam
Cook
Rousseau
Basham
Epenesa

^ That is 6 seasons worth of 1st and 2nd round picks. Kincaid is decent (probably average for his draft slot). Torrence is up and down, but part of a good unit. Cook is a top-10 back and outplayed his draft spot. Rousseau is okay. The rest are busts, or haven't made an impact yet.

That is a really bad drafting track record over 6 years, and it's kind of crazy the Bills have had consistent success with that.

This, he rarely hits on his early round picks which is why this roster is so poor. This team is in serious trouble in a year where they probably had their best shot since 13 seconds 

[Buffalo716]

23 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

He'd have teh same anchor chain on Garret that he has on Rousseau.

He wants his defense to contain everything and keep the play in front of him.

He has absolutely minimized certain players by not cutting them loose.

 

Considering he's gotten like 10 sacks out of Jordan Phillips, I get he likes a contained pocket but there's no way he's neutralizing Myles Garrett in my own opinion Simon

[billvernsays]

What if Beane realized that picking in the 1st round isn’t that easy and that he’s better off grabbing value and finding gems later in the draft. Leading to a strategy of early trade backs and taking the boring consensus play with our 1st pick every year. Let’s see how that might have worked out for us…… 
 

E.G. Will Johnson and Ladd McConkey. 

vs TJ Sanders and Keon Coleman. 
 

That’s not even considering the extra draft value, we can only dream I guess. 

[Gunsgoodtime]

7 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

I'm with you on this. I suspect he has a lot to say about which prospects get drafted. 

I stepped back and looked at it as a whole.  In my mind, Beane has no escape, he is literally in charge if drafting the players, even if McDermott tells him who to draft.  Either way, he has no out imo.  McDermott...He has 1 out, that Beane was fully in charge of drafting and he had nothing to do with it.  I don't  believe that.. Even if that is true, McDermott still has piles of problems for year after year that can't be blamed on Beane.  They both need to go in order for the Bills to move forward and not backwards imo.  They have not changed and obviously are not willing to change their strategy, which to most seems very flawed.  They used an entire draft on Defense and tons of fa money, again.  How is that looking?  How about the WR core that has been criminally mismanaged for years with the best qb the team has ever saw! Look at our safeties, CBS, how can you justify that?  It's unbelievable the talent on this team

[JBI$111]

Yes, since he lucked out and drafted him, every year he fails to provide adequate weapons for Josh and most all the money and capital continues to go to the defense. His scouting department obviously doesn't know how to judge talent either because their draft choices have been quite frankly, mostly pathetic.

 

Ask Beane how he feels now about beating up Jeremy White on the radio when he called him out about not drafting top round wide receiver talent for years.

 

And to add insult to injury, we have such a mediocre bloated over the cap roster currently. No easy way out except blowing this ***** up and getting rid of the coaches and the GM. I've had it with the lot of all of them as they continue to go round and round in circles clueless about how to get us over the hump. The constant mistakes in every aspect continue to pile up, get worse and it's hard to just ignore it anymore. 

 

The drafting really has been a huge problem for a long time along with mediocre coaching and no innovation or change.

 

[CincyBillsFan]

I wanted McConkey but understood the logic of the Coleman pick.  But in hindsight McConkey has proven to be a big play clutch WR who would be a huge upgrade to the Bills WR room and the trade that gave KC Worthy made their WR room much better while Coleman is dangerously close to bust territory.  That was a big time screw up by Bean & Company.

 

 

[Simon]

I love hindsight threads; they're the best.

[Spiderweb]

Right now, Josh Allen, and James Cook are the only reasons we have been competitive.... Run Cook and first and send, but use far less talented backs on 3rd and 4th downs? Brady is a putz.... Love to be more colorful but...discretion...

[Virgil]

No one was willing to take a risk on Johnson.  

 

McConkey did not go in the first round, meaning he also wasn't a slam dunk.  You can't play the hindsight game outside of the first round . 

[billvernsays]

Just now, Simon said:

I love hindsight threads; they're the best.

It’s easier to wish for a better past than deal with the current and future reality 

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

No one was willing to take a risk on Johnson.  

 

McConkey did not go in the first round, meaning he also wasn't a slam dunk.  You can't play the hindsight game outside of the first round . 

Actually we could have, since we still would’ve taken Mad Max in the 1st. 
 

We were in an ideal situation to take that risk given the upside of the player. 

[Spiderweb]

Just now, Simon said:

I love hindsight threads; they're the best.

Unfortunately, only Beane ever saw Coleman as the pick over a number of other good players. Call it now, he is in a dead heat with Kelvin Benjamin as one of worst receivers who played for the Bills.w

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, billvernsays said:

It’s easier to wish for a better past than deal with the current and future reality 

 

Maybe vent in an existing thread instead of compelling people to click on a new redundant one that adds little value?

[Mikie2times]

6 minutes ago, Simon said:

I love hindsight threads; they're the best.

Johnson was BPA on just about every board when we picked. McConkey was BPA on several. This is like saying Troy Franklin or Tory Horton or Halati Ngata is hindsight. Sure, usually it is, but it’s not when most fans are calling it out. 

[familykwi]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

I love hindsight threads; they're the best.

I don’t feel this is hindsight.  The Coleman pick was not adored at the time.  Sanders maybe, but Beane has taken MANY early round players that were not clean fits for this team (Epanesa, Ford, Bashum, Oliver, Elam, Coleman, etc) that have provided minimal impact.  Some later picks have over performed, but for their draft but they are not making up for the lack of impact in rounds 1 & 2

[billvernsays]

5 minutes ago, billvernsays said:

It’s easier to wish for a better past than deal with the current and future reality 

Actually we could have, since we still would’ve taken Mad Max in the 1st. 
 

We were in an ideal situation to take that risk given the upside of the player. 

But no GM ever takes two players at the same position early in a draft…….. 

 

other than Big Baller Beane taking Gangster Greg and Boggie Basham in 2021

[MasterStrategist]

38 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

He'd have teh same anchor chain on Garret that he has on Rousseau.

He wants his defense to contain everything and keep the play in front of him.

He has absolutely minimized certain players by not cutting them loose.

Now Groot is comparable to Garret?  

 

Its either we have adequate talent not being utilized correctly OR our talent is subpar.

 

I go with with the latter.

 

McD at his job is WAY better, than ehat Beane brings us at his.  What elite talent do we have again?  Josh and.............

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

Johnson was BPA on just about every board when we picked.

 

Hairston got hurt; you have no idea if he was the wrong pick yet.

 

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

McConkey was BPA on several.

 

Bunkum.

 

I'm stepping out of this utterly pointless thread

[Simon]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

Now Groot is comparable to Garret?  

 

No, McDermott is comparable to McDermott.

He wants his defense how he wants his defense, and his Ends are going to play run first and contain rush second.

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

Hairston got hurt; you have no idea if he was the wrong pick yet.

 

 

Bunkum.

 

I'm stepping out of this utterly pointless thread

Hairston might be fine. That doesn’t take away from the fact that two players were very highly rated and available when we picked and we passed. These are not hindsight picks. These were well known players nearing BPA at the time of our pick.