Mikie2times Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I'm not sure why you would have this thinking at all. Because 86% of non religious people support abortion. Apparently the other 14% on this forum.
SCBills Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I wonder what % of people are religious that support banning abortions. If it wasn't a religious issue I would expect that to be fairly neutral right? I honestly try to view it through a moral lens. And it’s simple to me.. if the baby feels pain, recoils in the womb when having the procedure done etc., we should probably not be so barbaric to think that’s ok. Before that point, while I disagree, life isn’t perfect and I get it that people would choose to end their pregnancy. After that point, of course there are horribly difficult decisions to be made and in those instances where the life of the mother is in danger or the baby will have severe fetal abnormalities.. I get it, and there should be exceptions. A religious person who believes life begins at conception believes that anytime after that point is murder. So it’s pretty gross to me when people use Charlie Kirk’s comment about his daughter against him. Thats the view of millions of pro-life Americans. Pro-choice people can disagree, but I’d view them as perpetuating evil for thinking an elective abortion at 24 weeks is ok. Edited September 12 by SCBills 1 3
JDHillFan Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, T.E. said: Extreme leftism, which is now the base of the Democratic Party. A group of nutjobs whose stupid ideology cant stand up to scrutiny, so they label speech as violence and consistently attempt to silence and censor their political opposition. Not only speech is violence, but many on the left have gone with “silence is violence” in the past. A very weak group of people out there. 1
JaCrispy Posted September 12 Posted September 12 9 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You should try reading the constitution. Its protections apply to people, not simply to citizens. Ok but what does it say about visas?
Royale with Cheese Posted September 12 Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: Did you purposely not post the poll where it said that 41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable?
gobills404 Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, muppy said: When a Muslim commits terrorism y’all say it doesn’t reflect on all Muslims. When a tranny shoots up a school it doesn’t reflect on the trans community. When a black guy stabs a random white woman to death it has nothing to do with race. And yet everytime a “homegrown, straight, white male” does something y’all jump at the opportunity to lie about how violent we are. Why is that? Edited September 12 by gobills404 1 1 1
T.E. Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Logic said: You can say "Antifa Tyler" all you want, but that doesn't make it true. I know 6th grade name calling is your favorite president's forte, but that doesn't mean its a viable strategy. He wrote Antifa slogans on the ammunition he used to kill a famous conservative media figure. I know that the main feature of liberalism is constantly lying to yourself and everyone else around you to keep your contradictive and ridiculous political opinions afloat, but you can save the fantasy that this psycho wasn't a leftist for Bluesky.
BillsFanNC Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 Yup. You can twist perceptions....reality won't budge. A couple weeks ago a trans person shot up a church in Minnesota. The MSM said the shooter being trans had nothing to do with it. A video was released of a black man murdering a white woman and then bragging about killing someone white. The MSM said race had nothing to do with it. The MSM will though now say that "white" and "young man" had everything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Mikie2times said: Because 86% of non religious people support abortion. Apparently the other 14% on this forum. 41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable. Its in the same link you provided. That goes against Christian principals. Why aren't you accepting that abortion can be both? Clearly it is.
Mikie2times Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Did you purposely not post the poll where it said that 41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable?
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 12 Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: So it's not a religious issue? To some it is religious. I think the issue is a couple things. A woman's right to control her body weighed against the rights of the unborn child to live. The argument being when does the child cross over to being an individual human being? At birth? Before that? I've got no medical, ethical, or legal answer to any of that. There are lots of different perspectives. The wife of a guy in my group at work a few years ago was pregnant when she was diagnosed with a brain tumor. The doctor said the necessary treatment would harm the fetus. Because of religious convictions she said no to the treatment, gave birth 6 months later, and died two weeks after. That I say is conviction to your beliefs. But in the context of their marriage I also wonder iif it was the best choice to leave her husband to care for two children plus a new baby.
T.E. Posted September 12 Posted September 12 Just now, gobills404 said: When a Muslim commits terrorism y’all say it doesn’t reflect on all Muslims. When a tranny shoots up a school it doesn’t reflect on the trans community. When a black guy stabs a random white woman to death it has nothing to do with race. And yet everytime a “homegrown, straight, white males” does something y’all jump at the opportunity to lie about how violent we are. Why is that? They don't have the capacity to understand hypocrisy or double standards and never have. It's a feature of their cult. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 12 Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: The one that’s taught in the public schools, and universities, and echoed by the mainstream media. The one that’s doesn’t believe in biological truth, or that nuclear families matter…The ideology that causes white people to hate themselves, while causing black people to be infantilized, because of its quiet racism. Charlie Kirk opposed all of this, and that’s what the killer thought was so hateful. Kirk didn’t want people to buy into this false dogma, because he knew, like many others, that buying into it would prevent human beings from moving past our human imperfections, and realizing our true potential. 👍 Ok, whatever
T.E. Posted September 12 Posted September 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Ya, whatever Nobody cares about a three-hour skirmish after your side spent an entire summer engaged in deadly riots just months prior. Edited September 12 by T.E.
Mikie2times Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: 41% of Republicans find abortion acceptable. Its in the same link you provided. That goes against Christian principals. Why aren't you accepting that abortion can be both? Clearly it is. I didn't say it was a political issue, I said it was a religious issue, which is why I put up a religious poll. Most democrats are religious. 70% of the United States is. Those that are not religious overwhelmingly don't support it. I said it was a amendment rooted in religion more than moral grounds. Which it is.
Pokebball Posted September 12 Posted September 12 24 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I mean, I think women should have the right to do what they want with their body? The right to life movement is not on moral grounds, it's on religious grounds. We are supposed to have clear separation of church and state. So now we are seeing rights taken away for religious reasons right? When does life begin?
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, T.E. said: Nobody cares about a three-hour skirmish after your side spent an entire summer engaged in deadly riots just months prior. Ya, no big deal, just a coup attempt on national legislature, but Democrats are bad, or something, blah blah 1 minute ago, Pokebball said: When does life begin?
Lost Posted September 12 Posted September 12 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Aaaaand scene. The next spin will be that the kids friend was also a Groyper and just covering for him.
Brandon Posted September 12 Posted September 12 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Ok but what does it say about visas? I don't know about visas, but the phrase 'right of the people' does not always extend to everyone in the country. The most obvious example is with regard to 2nd amendment rights for those in the country illegally. Form 4473 asks this question specifically.
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