Charlie Kirk shot in Utah (Pronounced Dead)

[B-Man]

 

 

LARRY CORREIA:

 

You know what’s sad? I’ve seen two kinds of liberals today. The first is just stupid evil trash, dancing in the blood, and celebrating murder. They’re basically demons.

 

Then there’s the ones who are still somewhat decent people trying to be human. Only before they can make a statement first they have to write this giant list of criteria and addendum of “Charlie Kirk said mean things and I disagree” and ***** paragraphs of ***** bull#### about how he was super bad and filled with hate, that way the other libs can know they are still pure and untainted so they don’t get eaten too, and ONLY THEN can they come out and declare assassinating people over politics is bad. (Even if they are racist sexist transphobic hate mongers who attack “marginalized communities”, and I want you vapid ***** to imagine I read that part in the most unctuous, smarmy, self righteous tone possible)

None of you ***** pussies can just come out and say murder is bad. Oh no. Gotta make sure your tribe of abusive weirdos doesn’t turn on you first.

 

You ***** cowards. I saw a bunch of these today.

 

Sad part is these kind of people are so up their own ass in the tribal virtue signaling, and so used to these group think purity tests, that they probably don’t even think of it anymore. Placating the bullies is reflex, because you are scared you don’t want to be the next one to get eaten. Look in your heart and you know it’s true.

 

***** pathetic, the lot of you.

 

https://www.facebook.com/larry.correia/posts/pfbid0aP3vy8au6zVvP1tewn1t6i5oN9D3KtVBj5A8k5aDZahGvQ3L2fNrSsT9er95RHDpl

 

Well said.

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Kirk was routinely posting against H1B and other legal job seeking. 

 

What do you know about the H1B?

I know a lot about it.

 

Let me see your knowledge of the H1B without copying and pasting something on Google you looked up.

I work with Immigration Attorney's all the time so I know the process and the other bits of information.

[ComradeKayAdams]

5 hours ago, LeviF said:

With respect to @ComradeKayAdams for being somewhat correct, it started way before Clinton. But they are unable to state when exactly it happened because it violates the leftist religion.

 

Can you elaborate, please? What part of my “leftist religion” is preventing me from seeing your truth? If this is a reference to immigration policy, I can tell you that my own personal position is fairly nuanced and “centristy” and not quite what the Democratic Party or even progressives believe.

 

I can give you an exact day, if you’d like, on which I believe the Democratic Party broke their commitment to the American working class: December 8, 1993. This was the day that President Clinton officially signed off on NAFTA. It’s admittedly a bit arbitrary and symbolic, however, because I could have easily zeroed in on other issues. If I want to be a policy pedant, I would probably say soon after World War 2 when the United States had its best opportunity to implement socialized health care and chose to forgo it.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

What do you know about the H1B?

I know a lot about it.

 

Let me see your knowledge of the H1B without copying and pasting something on Google you looked up.

I work with Immigration Attorney's all the time so I know the process and the other bits of information.

* grabs popcorn*

[Figster]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Lunatics that kill don't deserve a political alliance with anyone in my humble opinion. Defying our Democracy in this manner has no place in politics IMO.

[sherpa]

13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Kirk was routinely posting against H1B and other legal job seeking. 

 

Not part of any administration, anymore than you are.

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

Lunatics that kill don't deserve a political alliance with anyone in my humble opinion. Defying our Democracy in this manner has no place in politics IMO.

But the killer made it political?

 

Charlie was killed specifically because of his Political believes.

[Figster]

1 minute ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

But the killer made it political?

 

Charlie was killed specifically because of his Political believes.

Until you have the shooter it's impossible to know what motivates them.

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I showed you the previous link with the number of jobs available and you discredited it.  So I found the same data, from the same website but this one was a few weeks newer.  

At this point, you're being disingenuous.

 

And you don't know what you're talking about again.  What do you do for a living that gives you all this labor statistics knowledge?

 

The reason why, specifically in heavy manufacturing, as to there are shortages is because the new generation of American's do not want to do this type of work anymore.  These people are still working, but they prefer a more lighter manufacturing with temperature controlled plants, no weekends, no shift work etc.....

The people are there, they just don't want to do it.

I am not being disingenuous, I’m trying to figure out how what you posted clearly states there are more jobs than unemployed people. 
 

Nothing in this: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf shows that. 
 

And yeah, heavy manufacturing jobs are horrible. They’re unsafe, unskilled and don’t pay much. We should embrace automation for this kind of work. 

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

What do you know about the H1B?

I know a lot about it.

 

Let me see your knowledge of the H1B without copying and pasting something on Google you looked up.

I work with Immigration Attorney's all the time so I know the process and the other bits of information.

I freely admit I don’t know the hardcore specifics of H1B. I used it as an example of conservatives like Kirk being opposed to foreign immigration and employment in the United States. 
 

Im a city planner. I find this stuff more interesting than anything. 

[B-Man]

 

 

AGAIN.............................Back to the Charlie Kirk Thread.

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

AGAIN.............................Back to the Charlie Kirk Thread.

 

 

 

Sure is weird we do this for Kirk and not the two Minnesota lawmakers that were murdered in their beds by a right winger. 
 

Wonder why. 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I am not being disingenuous, I’m trying to figure out how what you posted clearly states there are more jobs than unemployed people. 
 

Nothing in this: https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf shows that. 
 

And yeah, heavy manufacturing jobs are horrible. They’re unsafe, unskilled and don’t pay much. We should embrace automation for this kind of work. 

 

You are being disingenuous because twice, twice now I told you that your data doesn't include retirees and stay at home parents.  

That's about what, 17 million-20 million or so people?  It completely skews your data dramatically.  You know it would so you keep ignoring it.

The difference between the people open for work and jobs available is about 200,000 difference.  What happens when you just remove retirees?  You know the answer but are being disingenuous.  

 

All major companies use automation so I have no idea what you're talking about.  We aren't living in the year 2100 where we have fork lifts driving themselves and loading pallets and we don't have an automated machine to fix a broken down press section.

 

What do you mean they don't pay much?  Our entry level Engineers start out at about $82,000.

Our hourly staff many times makes more than their Managers because they get OT and Managers don't.  We have hourly operators making $130,000 everywhere.

And I recruit from other heavy manufacturing companies and I know how much those are paying.

Our entry level operators in the bigger operations are making like $22 an hour just starting out.

You have so much misinformation man.

9 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

AGAIN.............................Back to the Charlie Kirk Thread.

 

 

 

 

Yeah I not derailing this thread anymore.  Not going to break his narrative.

This is Charlie's thread.

[Roundybout]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You are being disingenuous because twice, twice now I told you that your data doesn't include retirees and stay at home parents.  

That's about what, 17 million-20 million or so people?  It completely skews your data dramatically.  You know it would so you keep ignoring it.

The difference between the people open for work and jobs available is about 200,000 difference.  What happens when you just remove retirees?  You know the answer but are being disingenuous.  

 

All major companies use automation so I have no idea what you're talking about.  We aren't living in the year 2100 where we have fork lifts driving themselves and loading pallets and we don't have an automated machine to fix a broken down press section.

 

What do you mean they don't pay much?  Our entry level Engineers start out at about $82,000.

Our hourly staff many times makes more than their Managers because they get OT and Managers don't.  We have hourly operators making $130,000 everywhere.

And I recruit from other heavy manufacturing companies and I know how much those are paying.

Our entry level operators in the bigger operations are making like $22 an hour just starting out.

You have so much misinformation man.

If you want an example - ports. Countries like China have fully automated ports for loading and unloading ships. It’s much faster. The U.S. will never have this because of the Longshoremen’s Union fighting against it. 
 

$22 an hour isn’t dick nowadays. 

[Buffalo ill]

26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

 

 

The reason why, specifically in heavy manufacturing, as to there are shortages is because the new generation of American's do not want to do this type of work anymore.  These people are still working, but they prefer a more lighter manufacturing with temperature controlled plants, no weekends, no shift work etc.....

The people are there, they just don't want to do it.

Lol.  I work in a paper mill with hundreds of US citizens doing shift work in miserable conditions.  We tolerate it because for the area it pays well. Though everyone hates management and the way they are trying to run it into the ground.

[nedboy7]

1 hour ago, JFKjr said:

 

I think you're exactly on the right track here for a number of reasons:

 

1. The shooter had access to the roof. People familiar with the campus and its buildings say there would be NO access to the roof from the inside without getting an official person to unlock it for you, if you're authorized to be up there. Of course you could access it externally with some help and secrecy, which would involve a bit of pre-planning.

2. A suspicious plane left the Provo airport within an hour of the shooting, it illegally turned off its radar transponder (whatever they call it), and returned an hour later.

3. There were several people within the crowd who appeared to be serving as decoys/distractions.

4. There were several people on the ground who appeared to be giving odd signals.

5. It would be easy enough for a 'crazy' person to simply shoot him straight up from the crowd. This has the appearances of a targeted hit.

 

So I don't think the political left was responsible for it.

 

They are responsible for their reactions to it though.

 

 

 

Just watched footage. It’s a coordinated hit.  Israel? 

[BillsFanNC]

Roundy is being accused of being disingenuous in debate?

 

[Royale with Cheese]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

Lol.  I work in a paper mill with hundreds of US citizens doing shift work in miserable conditions.  We tolerate it because for the area it pays well. Though everyone hates management and the way they are trying to run it into the ground.

 

OMG do we work for the same company?

 

You have what...8 shutdowns/outages a year with one very long one?

 

I will be in Savannah, GA in a few weeks for the IP closure.

 

But back to the thread, we have the people do to the work, we just got to get the motivated to do this type of work.

This is why Charlie was against the H1B.  Not to mention, they're very expensive and you aren't guaranteed to get approval.

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Roundy is being accused of being disingenuous in debate?

 

 

Yeah I know.  We have automated ports here too.

But also, shipping/receiving/logistics is not the same as heavy manufacturing maintenance and operations staff lol.

 

I don't know how but we have to figure out how to get these people to do this work again.

 

You don't need a degree for any of these fields too and can make a very comfortable living.  Something else Charlie was a strong proponent for.

Edited September 11 by Royale with Cheese

[Orlando Buffalo]

Ezra says it about perfectly. the people cheering his murder are disgusting human beings and seem proud of being too stupid to recognize that they are the same as Hitler and Pol Pot. 

 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Roundy is being accused of being disingenuous in debate?

 

I asked for a simple source showing that jobs available were higher than unemployed people. 
 

 

You have never once attempted to make a coherent argument on this forum and you constantly detail any other conversations with nonsense like this. 

[nedboy7]

You all are too busy freaking out over some dumbasses reactions rather than thinking about who pulled this off 

2 hours ago, JFKjr said:

 

I think you're exactly on the right track here for a number of reasons:

 

1. The shooter had access to the roof. People familiar with the campus and its buildings say there would be NO access to the roof from the inside without getting an official person to unlock it for you, if you're authorized to be up there. Of course you could access it externally with some help and secrecy, which would involve a bit of pre-planning.

2. A suspicious plane left the Provo airport within an hour of the shooting, it illegally turned off its radar transponder (whatever they call it), and returned an hour later.

3. There were several people within the crowd who appeared to be serving as decoys/distractions.

4. There were several people on the ground who appeared to be giving odd signals.

5. It would be easy enough for a 'crazy' person to simply shoot him straight up from the crowd. This has the appearances of a targeted hit.

 

So I don't think the political left was responsible for it.

 

They are responsible for their reactions to it though.

 

 

 

Trump ally and right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer chimed in as well via a post on X, writing: “The best way President Trump can reinforce Charlie’s legacy is by cracking down on the Left with the full force of the government.”

 

Weird statements before we know who did this right?  Especially if it’s a foreign entity.  Which makes one wonder….

 

@Tommy Callahan you probably believe this is a good time to throw the liberals into prisons?  Why the eye roll?  You think that is a fake tweet? 

Edited September 11 by nedboy7