Kelce and Taylor are engaged

[SoTier]

I do not understand the negativity so many posters feel towards Swift.   I get that some might dislike Kelce because he's a Chief, but it seems that most of the animus is aimed at Swift.   She is a supremely talented young woman who has made it to the very top of her profession in a cut throat industry.  She also is a tremendous inspiration for girls and young women all over the world.

[90sBills]

11 minutes ago, boyst said:

That's not an insult, seriously. That'd be like the best thing ever for a swiftie. It's highest honors.

 

You're assuming me and many others don't like swift. I don't dislike her or like her, I don't know her. But what I do know about her I dislike. She's a liar, a hypocrite, and a weirdo. I don't like Kelce because he and his brother are Chad's. They're douchey chads. Jason can't keep his temper and has a drinking problem (he's said near as much). Travis is a douche supreme who pushes his coach and is a poor sport.

 

For those simple reasons I think the Kelces are butter soft jokes.

Where did I say this? I never said you liked or not liked her. That’s not my business and frankly I don’t care. 
 

I commented on your multiple posts making character assumptions about two celebrities that you don’t know. You seemed emotionally invested with your vitriol is my observation. 
 

With each response you’re making more assumptions about me. Now I’m a Swiftie apparently haha. Like I said, assumptions and insults come naturally for you. I hope that you’re a young person. If you’re a middle aged+ adult it would be terribly sad to engage strangers like this in real life. 

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, SoTier said:

I do not understand the negativity so many posters feel towards Swift.   I get that some might dislike Kelce because he's a Chief, but it seems that most of the animus is aimed at Swift.   She is a supremely talented young woman who has made it to the very top of her profession in a cut throat industry.  She also is a tremendous inspiration for girls and young women all over the world.

This is true. Compared to others like the Sabrina Carpenter girl or many others she is a good role model.

However, like many acts, she has wore her tooth a little long off the stage. That's where the unfavorable opinion largely comes from

[Another Fan]

32 minutes ago, SoTier said:

I do not understand the negativity so many posters feel towards Swift.   I get that some might dislike Kelce because he's a Chief, but it seems that most of the animus is aimed at Swift.   She is a supremely talented young woman who has made it to the very top of her profession in a cut throat industry.  She also is a tremendous inspiration for girls and young women all over the world.

I wouldn't say I ever liked Taylor but I respected her.  She went from I think bullied girl to top of the music world.  Some of her music I think is still catchy as well like Shake It Off.  

 

That being said the combination of seeing her like everywhere and with the Kelce's who can come across as attention seeking as well.....  I'm just sort of like over them.   That being said this skit was really funny

 

 

Edited August 27 by Another Fan

[Logic]

14 minutes ago, boyst said:

This is true. Compared to others like the Sabrina Carpenter girl or many others she is a good role model.

However, like many acts, she has wore her tooth a little long off the stage. That's where the unfavorable opinion largely comes from

Your 10th post in a 4 page thread. We get it. You're not a fan.
 

[stuvian]

I wonder if they'll have kids and if so whether a surrogate will be employed and if Kelce gets a say in the matter 

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

I do not understand the negativity so many posters feel towards Swift.   I get that some might dislike Kelce because he's a Chief, but it seems that most of the animus is aimed at Swift.   She is a supremely talented young woman who has made it to the very top of her profession in a cut throat industry.  She also is a tremendous inspiration for girls and young women all over the world.

 

She's an icon and probably the modern-day Olivia Newton-John. I get tired of seeing her on NFL game days, but I respect her talent. 

Edited August 27 by Roundybout

[WotAGuy]

40 minutes ago, Logic said:

Your 10th post in a 4 page thread. We get it. You're not a fan.
 

Why is no one calling him out for saying Butkus was a tight end?   That’s much, much worse than calling Swift a weirdo. 

[SoTier]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

the main  character syndrome is him.

 

lol fragile male ego? nah, nothing about me is fragile but i got lots of ego. it's funny because lots of celebs go to games and don't get shown on tv... and her avoiding paparazzi and doing all of this weird stuff to do so is sad. not for her but for society. it's pathetic that parents let their children worship these people, it's even more sad that adults do, too. diseny adults are the only worse thing.

 

lists are tedious... i can't come up with the list in the top of my head but the guy doesn't block. but i bet i could list 40 te's that blocked and played better. from butkus to gonzalez to gates to winslow... just 4 right there wihout including many many others due credit.

 

i could give a crap about her being a female, stop with the whiteknighting glory. i don't actually believe she writes all of her songs, fwiw.

 

and to end this out... i did not know snowflake was still a thing. is it? no cap, skibidi ohio...

 

I think you protest too much.

 

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

OK, fine. Do you NOT think that the Chiefs are getting favorable calls  because of the Swift/Kelce scenario? This is the ONLY facet of the subject that bothers me. How about you? Are you of the opinion that the Chiefs have not received any favorable calls from the refs due to this scenario?

 

Since the Chiefs seemed to be getting favorable calls from the refs before Kelce and Swift got together, it's hard to make this claim stick.   When the Pats were dominant, they seemed to always get favorable calls.  I remember when the Dolphins were dominant in the AFC in the 1970s, the refs seemed to always favor them, especially when they played the Bills.  Are good teams favored by the referees?  As Bills fans, our answer is "yes", but maybe this is all perception.  Do Jests or Fish fans think that the Bills are favored by the referees? 

 

AFAIK, there's never been a study of whether referees do favor better teams over lesser teams or if it's all perception.

[YoloinOhio]

[Bill from NYC]

9 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

 When the Pats were dominant, they seemed to always get favorable calls.  

This is true. It is also true that Brady was very appealing to many women. Men are already NFL Fans. Can you imagine the money that the NFL would bring in by attracting more women? Well, it is already happening, and I am NOT blaming Taylor Swift. She is simply a means for the NFL to increase advertising profits.

 

If you are so sure that the NFL is 100% legit, I envy you. Unfortunately, I'm not a starry eyed person who thinks that everything is on the up and up.

[boyst]

10 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

I think you protest too much.

 

 

Since the Chiefs seemed to be getting favorable calls from the refs before Kelce and Swift got together, it's hard to make this claim stick.   When the Pats were dominant, they seemed to always get favorable calls.  I remember when the Dolphins were dominant in the AFC in the 1970s, the refs seemed to always favor them, especially when they played the Bills.  Are good teams favored by the referees?  As Bills fans, our answer is "yes", but maybe this is all perception.  Do Jests or Fish fans think that the Bills are favored by the referees? 

 

AFAIK, there's never been a study of whether referees do favor better teams over lesser teams or if it's all perception.

Taylor was signed to big machine records when no one else would sign her. Toby Keith label. When he died she didn't even say a word in appreciation or acknowledge his passing. Further, her father owned a stake in the label and recordings. Yet, when the catalog was sold, as is common in music, she went on a campaign to vilify the new holder and make herself out to be a slave to the process. She rerecorded all of her songs on her own label and got every angsty teen in the world to hate the guy, Scooter Braun. The little children went full re are to go after and protest anything held by shamrock because their cult leader told them to. So on their little iPhones and wearing their freshly imported Adidas and Nike they rallied against corporatalism. 

 

Because

... Swifties are as stupid as they come.

 

She can go f herself. 

[Tenhigh]

11 hours ago, Logic said:

Your 10th post in a 4 page thread. We get it. You're not a fan.
 

Ironically your 10th post in the same thread. We get it, you have a teenage girl's taste in music.

[muppy]

**throws Red and gold confetti** MAZEL TOV

 

I haven't read the thread. I wonder which designer will win the lotto and be named her wedding dress designer

 

Books will be made about her wedding wardrobe. She'll probably have at least 4 outfit changes

 

she can afford it I don't hate it or her really

 

but he has waaaay too much KC Chiefs stink on him for my taste

 

to each his own.

 

Hey Tay Tay  NICE RING  I will say that. I wonder what the band to go with it will look like

 

Inquiring minds want to know!

[muppy]

15 hours ago, boyst said:

hypocrisy, look at me/main character syndrome, among other things i cannot mention here because someone would be offended or bring politics in to it.

 

i mean, this is a woman who rides in containers to avoid being seen by the public, flies her jet 15 feet to avoid crossing a 2 way street marrying a man who pushes his coach when he does not get his way, taunts and shoves opponents when they better him, is way over celebrated for his value and not even being a top 40 TE of all time.

you know a ton about a woman you claim not to  not care much about.

 

I think you're a jealous Uber  successful woman hater

 

she is  pretty, Rich successful,  in love and happy

 

What is not to like? except her taste in men being suspect

 

SMH

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 27 by muppy

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

Ironically your 10th post in the same thread. We get it, you have a teenage girl's taste in music.

Let's keep at this. 

This is a woman who cries about being yourself, who celebrated being the awkward kid growing up 

 

By all accounts from her classmates until she disenrolled from school she was quite popular. She was a tall cute blonde, of course she was. But she said she was bullied, but I doubt it was any different than any other teenage girl. She said she had eating issues, but what teenage girl didn't? Sure, I get it she's capitalizing on an image. But it's hypocrisy. It's no different than lizzo who body shames people and now is getting surgery to look better and on ozempic to cut her weight. Taylor also got surgery, pretty funny for a woman who is supposed to be all about being your natural self. And then she talks about how she grew up middle class, when she was a rich girl. No different than kid Rock who talks about growing up and knowing the common Man struggle. But he grew up with parents who owned a car dealership in upper middle class at the very least in the suburbs of detroit. Taylor Swift is about as fake as can be 

 

She preaches authenticity and being your sincere self when she is nothing more than a dancing puppet for her own profit

Just now, muppy said:

you know a ton about a woman you don't seem to  care much about.

 

I think you're a jealous successfull woman hater

 

its pretty sad, Rich successful beautiful and in love and happy

 

What is not to like? except her taste in men being suspect

 

SMH

 

 

The day I give a crap about your opinion is the day that I will jump off a bridge. 

[muppy]

5 minutes ago, boyst said:

Let's keep at this. 

This is a woman who cries about being yourself, who celebrated being the awkward kid growing up 

 

By all accounts from her classmates until she disenrolled from school she was quite popular. She was a tall cute blonde, of course she was. But she said she was bullied, but I doubt it was any different than any other teenage girl. She said she had eating issues, but what teenage girl didn't? Sure, I get it she's capitalizing on an image. But it's hypocrisy. It's no different than lizzo who body shames people and now is getting surgery to look better and on ozempic to cut her weight. Taylor also got surgery, pretty funny for a woman who is supposed to be all about being your natural self. And then she talks about how she grew up middle class, when she was a rich girl. No different than kid Rock who talks about growing up and knowing the common Man struggle. But he grew up with parents who owned a car dealership in upper middle class at the very least in the suburbs of detroit. Taylor Swift is about as fake as can be 

 

She preaches authenticity and being your sincere self when she is nothing more than a dancing puppet for her own profit

The day I give a crap about your opinion is the day that I will jump off a bridge. 

you don't just hate Taylor you are a woman hater too

 

testy Testy TESTY

 

I think Ive struck a nerve

 

My Goodness you can write a freaking book about a woman you despise??

 

LOL  you are something else amigo

 

back on ignore you go

Edited August 27 by muppy

[boyst]

Just now, muppy said:

you don't just hate Taylor you are a woman hater too

 

testy Testy TESTY

 

I think Ive struck a nerve

 

LOL

Okay I don't know what to tell you here. How can you have a discussion with someone who just says oh you hate women because you criticize someone? Your thought process and entire basis for saying anything is entirely weak. 

 

 I criticize Taylor Swift with valid points and the best you can say is that I hate women. Yep, you got me. Please just block me. I'm not going to waste time watering down discussion so that you may generalize so poorly. 

[muppy]

11 hours ago, Logic said:

Your 10th post in a 4 page thread. We get it. You're not a fan.
 

he's  a jealous hater. You can tell by the vitriol to a woman he has never met and never will

 

its pathetic

9 minutes ago, boyst said:

Okay I don't know what to tell you here. How can you have a discussion with someone who just says oh you hate women because you criticize someone? Your thought process and entire basis for saying anything is entirely weak. 

 

 I criticize Taylor Swift with valid points and the best you can say is that I hate women. Yep, you got me. Please just block me. I'm not going to waste time watering down discussion so that you may generalize so poorly. 

OH You are wasting time here  including mine. we agree on something.you are full of yourself. 

 

*confetti*

 

valid points okie dokie smokie

 

lol

Edited August 27 by muppy

[boyst]

8 minutes ago, muppy said:

he's  a jealous hater. You can tell by the vitriol to a woman he has never met and never will

 

its pathetic

OH You are wasting time here  including mine. we agree on something.you are full of yourself. 

 

*confetti*

 

lol

Why are you being sexist? What does this have to do with femism/misogyny? 

 

It's watered down arguments like this that show that our society is cooked. 

 

This is a man and woman engaged and because I dislike both ... I hate women?

 

Oh, child... Lol. Have a wonderful day with your confetti. Maybe you can get a glue stick and some stickers to play with too.