Bills hosting Gabe Davis for visit

[JP51]

12 hours ago, Simon said:

 

Judging guys' capabilities on past production just shows there's a difference between math and football.

If we signed Jerry Rice, would he immediately be the best WR on the team? 🤷‍♂️

I think we saw (and McBeane) saw Gabe in decline when we didnt try to resign him.. of course the money he signed for was insane... I think ankle and foot issues have compromised him a bit... when he left his performance was questionable and his ability to stay healthy was even more concerning... as he comes back to us now potentially for a workout... Injured...  that said, vet min deal for PS or insurance... fine.. spending even 3 or 4 WR money on him... hard pass... 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

800k. WR 4/5. One year. 

[SCBills]

Joe Buscaglia casually floating that he won’t be surprised if the Bills trade a receiver that helps them with the cap.
 

This in response to a tweet listing various teams monitoring the WR trade market. 
 

Could open up a spot for Gabe Davis and/or Tyrell Shavers. 

[boyst]

5 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Joe Buscaglia casually floating that he won’t be surprised if the Bills trade a receiver that helps them with the cap.
 

This in response to a tweet listing various teams monitoring the WR trade market. 
 

Could open up a spot for Gabe Davis and/or Tyrell Shavers. 

I think I'd take Davis over Shavers as WR4.

But, I like what Shavers offers the team a lot more across the board. 

 

Davis doesn't play ST.

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, boyst said:

I think I'd take Davis over Shavers as WR4.

But, I like what Shavers offers the team a lot more across the board. 

 

Davis doesn't play ST.

If we went into the season with Coleman, Palmer, Shakir, Gabe & Moore (or Samuel), we might not have a WR1 but that’s an incredibly deep group of WR2/3 types. 
 

Also, Josh in speaking about Keon, mentioned how they plan to use him all over the field.. inside, outside etc. 

 

Another pure outside WR could be helpful if they plan on playing Keon all over.    
 

Also, moving Samuel (if that’s what Joe B is referring to) lessens the logjam of guys who play more in the slot given Shakir + RB’s and TE’s. 
 

As you point out though.. where is the ST’s help in that room, unless Shakir, Coleman and/or Moore replace Codrington as punt returner.  
 

I prefer Gabe over Shavers as he’s proven it here.  Preseason has a ton of guys like Shavers and I don’t know that he doesn’t make it back to our PS.. every team has a guy like him.  But I also don’t know what more he can do… has to be frustrating.  
 

Edited Wednesday at 02:05 PM by SCBills

[Billl]

20 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Joe Buscaglia casually floating that he won’t be surprised if the Bills trade a receiver that helps them with the cap.
 

This in response to a tweet listing various teams monitoring the WR trade market. 
 

Could open up a spot for Gabe Davis and/or Tyrell Shavers. 

He’s clearly alluding to Samuel, but who is going to take on that contract for a guy with chronic lower body issues and minimal production?

[yall]

2 minutes ago, Billl said:

He’s clearly alluding to Samuel, but who is going to take on that contract for a guy with chronic lower body issues and minimal production?

No one will take that contract.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Billl said:

He’s clearly alluding to Samuel, but who is going to take on that contract for a guy with chronic lower body issues and minimal production?

He still shows flashes of why we signed him when healthy, but your point is absolutely reality.   My guess would be Buffalo sending him on a late round pick swap or something to a team that has cap space and buys into the hope of a healthy Samuel.   Might even require us giving up a higher pick in the swap to move him.. but freeing up cap might be worth it to the FO.  We’ll see. 

[MikePJ76]

Just now, yall said:

No one will take that contract.

Teams with needs this time of year will happily take his contract if he can help them.  
 

I personally do not see them moving a proven veteran even with his warts and I still think they are worried about relying on one of the unproven players among the wr.

[LEBills]

18 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Joe Buscaglia casually floating that he won’t be surprised if the Bills trade a receiver that helps them with the cap.
 

This in response to a tweet listing various teams monitoring the WR trade market. 
 

Could open up a spot for Gabe Davis and/or Tyrell Shavers. 

not sure I see it but would probably exclusively be Elijah Moore. Trading him saves you 1.75 mil.

 

Coleman, Palmer and Shakir won’t be traded. Shavers and the other PS guys all cost the same traded or cut. Maybe they get an asset for Shavers in a trade, but it really won’t help the cap.

 

Curtis Samuel would be the holy grail with 7.34 mil in savings if traded. I would be stunned if other teams wanted to trade for the guy with his injuries. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

Coleman, Palmer, Shakir, Gabe, Shavers is what I think we will roll with, Unless we keep a 6th which I think would be shenault.

[yall]

3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Teams with needs this time of year will happily take his contract if he can help them.  
 

I personally do not see them moving a proven veteran even with his warts and I still think they are worried about relying on one of the unproven players among the wr.

Healthy? Sure.

 

But his constant injuries (currently nursing one now) will turn off any team looking for immediate help.

[MikePJ76]

2 minutes ago, yall said:

Healthy? Sure.

 

But his constant injuries (currently nursing one now) will turn off any team looking for immediate help.

He is going to be a lot better than wr most teams will make available, if Buffalo does make him available.

 

in a perfect world Buffalo could find someone with a safety who is a veteran who just isn’t fitting in or gets outplayed by draft picks somewhere and could come here and help right away.

 

 

[boyst]

24 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If we went into the season with Coleman, Palmer, Shakir, Gabe & Moore (or Samuel), we might not have a WR1 but that’s an incredibly deep group of WR2/3 types. 
 

Also, Josh in speaking about Keon, mentioned how they plan to use him all over the field.. inside, outside etc. 

 

Another pure outside WR could be helpful if they plan on playing Keon all over.    
 

Also, moving Samuel (if that’s what Joe B is referring to) lessens the logjam of guys who play more in the slot given Shakir + RB’s and TE’s. 
 

As you point out though.. where is the ST’s help in that room, unless Shakir, Coleman and/or Moore replace Codrington as punt returner.  
 

I prefer Gabe over Shavers as he’s proven it here.  Preseason has a ton of guys like Shavers and I don’t know that he doesn’t make it back to our PS.. every team has a guy like him.  But I also don’t know what more he can do… has to be frustrating.  
 

gaawddd  goign into the draft everyone screaming for a true WR again next year... that'd hurt.

 

we'd draft a safety lol

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

18 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Agree 100% on Mack. Gabe is a poor mans Mack, which is a bit wild to think. I used to think it was the other way around. 

A poor man’s Mack? Hollins has gone over 400 yards once in his career. Has also never had more than 5 rec TDs which was last year. Gabe’s numbers dwarf his and it’s not even close. 
 

edit: also wanted add that Gabe’s 8/201/4TD against KC was the greatest and most clutch showing I’ve ever seen in the playoffs. But it’s taken away from him because the Bills lost. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:56 PM by ChronicAndKnuckles

[LEBills]

3 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

A poor man’s Mack? Hollins has gone over 400 yards once in his career. Has also never had more than 5 rec TDs which was last year. Gabe’s numbers dwarf his and it’s not even close. 

Nastalgia is strong for Mack. Gabe had more yards receiving in the Chief playoff game than Mack Hollins had in 3 of his 9 seasons. 
 

If Gabe had 50 more yards in that game it would be more than 7 of Mack’s 9 seasons lol

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Just now, LEBills said:

Nastalgia is strong for Mack. Gabe had more yards receiving in the Chief playoff game than Mack Hollins had in 3 of his 9 seasons. 
 

If Gabe had 50 more yards in that game it would be more than 7 of Mack’s 9 seasons lol

Exactly. But he’ll never get the proper respect because the Bills lost. Same with Allen, but I’m not gonna derail this thread topic. 

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

Exactly. But he’ll never get the proper respect because the Bills lost. Same with Allen, but I’m not gonna derail this thread topic. 

If we had to play Mack Hollins as our WR2 this year, people would probably feel the same way about him as they do Gabe. 
 

Gabe Davis would be a great WR4 addition to this team and people who are weird about it can’t get over the fact we tried to plug him in as WR2. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

54 minutes ago, Billl said:

He’s clearly alluding to Samuel, but who is going to take on that contract for a guy with chronic lower body issues and minimal production?

Like going down to the car dealership, and saying "what have you got in the 'as is' used category?"

[Billl]

56 minutes ago, LEBills said:

not sure I see it but would probably exclusively be Elijah Moore. Trading him saves you 1.75 mil.

If a team wanted Moore, they could have signed him in the offseason.  He’s got 1 catch for 5 yards on 4 targets so far in the pre-season and is likely to get cut.  Trades have to make sense for both sides, and it’s hard to envision a scenario in which a team is willing to give up draft capital for him.