Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Monday at 05:02 PM Posted Monday at 05:02 PM Wow, Trump cutting green energy so his big pocket donors can charge more sticking it to the little guy
sherpa Posted Monday at 05:28 PM Posted Monday at 05:28 PM Surely you can't be serious. "Energy prices, particularly the cost of electricity, have skyrocketed since President Biden took office, outpacing inflation and putting a dent in Americans’ wallets. Since January 2021, electricity prices have soared 29.4% — 50% more than overall inflation — rising 13 times faster than the previous seven years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Meanwhile, in those seven years before Biden took office, electricity prices rose just 5%." https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/ As an aside, there is a lot going on in the electricity supply chain, and way more to play out, so we will see. The recent heavily publicized threat of data centers sucking up residential supply is really not necessary, as recent agreements among other alternative energy companies have indicated. 1 2
All_Pro_Bills Posted Monday at 05:52 PM Posted Monday at 05:52 PM 35 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Wow, Trump cutting green energy so his big pocket donors can charge more sticking it to the little guy They're really reaching. And I would think Democrats should stay on message and be blaming global warming for price increases. And Reich, the great economist is an idiot. He mentions big oil donors and electricity costs. Oil and electricity generation have nothing in common. From the US EIA: Petroleum was the source of about 0.4% of U.S. electricity generation in 2023. Residual fuel oil and petroleum coke are used in steam turbines. Distillate—or diesel—fuel oil is used in internal-combustion engines such as diesel-engine generators. Residual fuel oil and distillates can also be burned in steam turbines and gas turbines. This was from 2023. Its certain that number hasn't gone higher since. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us.php 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Monday at 05:56 PM Posted Monday at 05:56 PM This topic is so timely for me, I came up on my electric bill from June of 2019 when cleaning out my files and it was 190, last year is was 285 and I had better windows put in since then and then this year is just under 300. So it is up this year but the big jump was from Biden. 3
B-Man Posted Monday at 06:00 PM Posted Monday at 06:00 PM 29 minutes ago, sherpa said: Surely you can't be serious. 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: 2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: So, all three of you have effectively destroyed Tiberius's reason for starting this weak thread, He will STILL come back and argue................guaranteed.
SectionC3 Posted Monday at 08:58 PM Posted Monday at 08:58 PM 3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This topic is so timely for me, I came up on my electric bill from June of 2019 when cleaning out my files and it was 190, last year is was 285 and I had better windows put in since then and then this year is just under 300. So it is up this year but the big jump was from Biden. Because increases were paused during COVID. Now the BBB is going to make electricity even more expensive. Great stuff.
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 09:04 PM Posted Monday at 09:04 PM 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Because increases were paused during COVID. One of your weakest hoaxes yet. From the link found in the second post in this thread which is also cited and bolded therein: Since January 2021, electricity prices have soared 29.4% — 50% more than overall inflation — rising 13 times faster than the previous seven years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Meanwhile, in those seven years before Biden took office, electricity prices rose just 5%. Great stuff. Something about Epstein. 1 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted Monday at 11:50 PM Author Posted Monday at 11:50 PM 6 hours ago, sherpa said: Surely you can't be serious. "Energy prices, particularly the cost of electricity, have skyrocketed since President Biden took office, outpacing inflation and putting a dent in Americans’ wallets. Since January 2021, electricity prices have soared 29.4% — 50% more than overall inflation — rising 13 times faster than the previous seven years, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Meanwhile, in those seven years before Biden took office, electricity prices rose just 5%." https://nypost.com/2024/04/12/us-news/electricity-costs-soar-under-biden-administrationenergy-prices-soar-under-biden-administration/ As an aside, there is a lot going on in the electricity supply chain, and way more to play out, so we will see. The recent heavily publicized threat of data centers sucking up residential supply is really not necessary, as recent agreements among other alternative energy companies have indicated. Everything is the sitting president's fault, deal with it 1
JDHillFan Posted Tuesday at 12:19 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:19 AM 24 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Everything is the sitting president's fault, deal with it On 5/12/2023 at 8:52 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Not Biden;'s fault Congress can't pass serious immigration reform On 2/20/2023 at 9:48 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Yes, the inflation has been bad and Biden is the leader during these tough times for that. Not in anyway his fault On 7/5/2021 at 10:45 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: That’s Biden’s fault? How? On 7/17/2021 at 9:49 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: It’s Biden’s fault that people are showing up at border? Ok On 1/9/2023 at 9:24 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: You know its not Biden's fault people want to come here. On 11/7/2023 at 7:06 PM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Everything bad in the world is Biden's fault. Brilliant! F'n moron On 11/16/2021 at 9:01 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Inflation is Biden's fault?? What Phony Baloney On 9/19/2022 at 11:34 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: It's Biden's fault? Batsh it nuts there! On 9/19/2022 at 11:18 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: you are still arguing Biden is at fault for Putin's invasion of a peace loving nation? That's batshit crazy! 🦇 sh it On 6/20/2022 at 11:02 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Labor shortage is Biden's fault? On 3/29/2022 at 2:57 PM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Ya, that's Biden's fault. Warped much? On 3/28/2022 at 9:10 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: It's not Biden's fault prices are high. On 5/9/2022 at 3:01 PM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Can you back up the point that the gas prices are Biden's fault? Links and such? 2 1
T master Posted Tuesday at 12:20 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:20 AM 7 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Wow, Trump cutting green energy so his big pocket donors can charge more sticking it to the little guy Well mine has went up well over $100 a month since Biden put in pace "The Green New Deal" and the price of batteries for my Dewalt drills and such have went from what were $60 to now be $150 and you have to buy the battery now separate from the tool when you use to get at least 1 battery with the tool . Oh and I bet all of the Pilot & Loves truck stops that I stop at now that have EV charging stations bigger than most of the fuel islands on the car side has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of electricity going up seeing as the electrical grid has to be completely upgraded because of the added draw . Oh and then all the new housing that is going up that has to have a bigger electrical service built into the house so they can charge their EV's which has driven the cost of Electrical things such as wire up . I remember just say 7 years ago when a 100' role of 12/ 2 with ground was like $70 and now it's near $175 . But yah it's all because of Trump when all this BS was put in place before he was ever elected . So go peddle your boat load of BS to someone that will stand and listen to it because your so FOS that it's all his fault I had to put on my hip waders just to reply to your post ... 30 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Everything is the sitting president's fault, deal with it B**L S**T !!! 1
reddogblitz Posted Tuesday at 12:34 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:34 AM 13 minutes ago, T master said: Well mine has went up well over $100 a month since Biden put in pace "The Green New Deal" and the price of batteries for my Dewalt drills and such have went from what were $60 to now be $150 and you have to buy the battery now separate from the tool when you use to get at least 1 battery with the tool . Oh and I bet all of the Pilot & Loves truck stops that I stop at now that have EV charging stations bigger than most of the fuel islands on the car side has absolutely nothing to do with the cost of electricity going up seeing as the electrical grid has to be completely upgraded because of the added draw . Oh and then all the new housing that is going up that has to have a bigger electrical service built into the house so they can charge their EV's which has driven the cost of Electrical things such as wire up . I remember just say 7 years ago when a 100' role of 12/ 2 with ground was like $70 and now it's near $175 . But yah it's all because of Trump when all this BS was put in place before he was ever elected . So go peddle your boat load of BS to someone that will stand and listen to it because your so FOS that it's all his fault I had to put on my hip waders just to reply to your post ... B**L S**T !!! Yes it is. Deal with it. If not, where does the buck stop? 1
T master Posted Tuesday at 01:00 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:00 AM (edited) 25 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Yes it is. Deal with it. If not, where does the buck stop? I do deal with it like you every single month when my electric bill comes in higher than it was 8 years ago because of all the "New Green Deal" BS that was forced down our throats and is the exact cause for these higher prices for everything electric but those that wanted this need a scape goat and the Orange man is it . What I don't dig is when people lie about it being the fault of someone else, and when someone else is left to try and clean up the mess but blamed for it . At the very least grow a set of balls and admit who is at fault to begin with and the reasons for it . That is exactly what this administration is trying to do is fix what the prior 4 years of decisions have screwed up terribly, so if we now are made to tighten our belts a bit because of those prior decision's then it's all Trumps fault for trying to turn the tide ? That is basically the crux of the problem in America today NO ONE wants to have to sacrifice anything because we have all been way to F N spoiled for way to long and every one feels that simply because we are Americans we are entitled to all the good the country has to give and shouldn't have to sacrifice in any & are always way to quick to blame the ones fixing and not those making the problems . That is in and of it's self why the TDS or the immense hatred of Trump is so rampant, because he has the balls to try to really do things to make a change and those that have been setting the political path in the direction it has been going for years don't like it because he WILL NOT CONFORM to their ways . Hence all of the B**CHing form the entitled and the ones handing out & receiving all of the entitlements in DC . Hell even the young folks started to realize it and voted for Trump but he can't change in his short 2 terms what nearly 100 years of F N up has put in place . But he has taken a lot of the blame or flack for all of these career politicians decisions long before he ever came into the picture ... It's time we all wake up and see what has been happening in DC and look at things with some common sense and elect those that will run this country like a business which it is instead of their own pet project !!! Edited Tuesday at 01:00 AM by T master
PetermansRedemption Posted Tuesday at 01:17 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:17 AM Glad I got rooftop Solar when I did.
SectionC3 Posted Tuesday at 01:25 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:25 AM 23 minutes ago, T master said: I do deal with it like you every single month when my electric bill comes in higher than it was 8 years ago because of all the "New Green Deal" BS that was forced down our throats and is the exact cause for these higher prices for everything electric but those that wanted this need a scape goat and the Orange man is it . What I don't dig is when people lie about it being the fault of someone else, and when someone else is left to try and clean up the mess but blamed for it . At the very least grow a set of balls and admit who is at fault to begin with and the reasons for it . That is exactly what this administration is trying to do is fix what the prior 4 years of decisions have screwed up terribly, so if we now are made to tighten our belts a bit because of those prior decision's then it's all Trumps fault for trying to turn the tide ? That is basically the crux of the problem in America today NO ONE wants to have to sacrifice anything because we have all been way to F N spoiled for way to long and every one feels that simply because we are Americans we are entitled to all the good the country has to give and shouldn't have to sacrifice in any & are always way to quick to blame the ones fixing and not those making the problems . That is in and of it's self why the TDS or the immense hatred of Trump is so rampant, because he has the balls to try to really do things to make a change and those that have been setting the political path in the direction it has been going for years don't like it because he WILL NOT CONFORM to their ways . Hence all of the B**CHing form the entitled and the ones handing out & receiving all of the entitlements in DC . Hell even the young folks started to realize it and voted for Trump but he can't change in his short 2 terms what nearly 100 years of F N up has put in place . But he has taken a lot of the blame or flack for all of these career politicians decisions long before he ever came into the picture ... It's time we all wake up and see what has been happening in DC and look at things with some common sense and elect those that will run this country like a business which it is instead of their own pet project !!! Hmmm. I thought Trump was going to fix all of this stuff. Instead he plays golf, ruminates about windmills, meets with pedos but not their victims, and hides the Epstein files.
JDHillFan Posted Tuesday at 01:34 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:34 AM 15 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Glad I got rooftop Solar when I did. I don’t know anyone that has it. How has it benefited you? Very interested to hear. 1
PetermansRedemption Posted Tuesday at 01:42 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:42 AM (edited) 9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I don’t know anyone that has it. How has it benefited you? Very interested to hear. Massively. But I’m in a very sun heavy state (not NY). Having it in a place that gets 300 days of sun per year, it’s taken my electricity bill down by $100 a month and given me a large tax credit on top of it. That is, I pay $100 less for the solar loan than I would be paying the power company. Once I pay off my solar in a few years it’ll benefit me to the tune of around $4k per year. When we did live in WNY I researched it. Decided it didn’t make sense at that time. Knowing what I know now, actually having solar, it would be like lighting money on fire anywhere that gets minimal sun. Edited Tuesday at 01:43 AM by PetermansRedemption 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 02:26 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:26 AM 5 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Because increases were paused during COVID. Now the BBB is going to make electricity even more expensive. Great stuff. I know it has been responded to but there was no pause in the increase during COVID. Such a comment is simply a lie because you know that is not true.
Big Blitz Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM 2 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Everything is the sitting president's fault, deal with it No surprise coming from these people - delusional
JFKjr Posted Tuesday at 02:50 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:50 AM 5 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Because increases were paused during COVID. Now the BBB is going to make electricity even more expensive. Great stuff. Be sure to buy an EV! 1 1
SectionC3 Posted Tuesday at 04:27 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:27 AM 1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I know it has been responded to but there was no pause in the increase during COVID. Such a comment is simply a lie because you know that is not true. Hoax.
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