ISRAEL V IRAN: Trump just warned everyone should evacuate Tehran

[BillsFanNC]

 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

 

Leadership?? He's just a stupid idiot 

 

 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Good news for Ukraine...if true 

 

 

 

[SectionC3]

38 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you remember referring to Trump’s Greenland and Canada comments as saber rattling? About how he was planning to invade? Add Panama to that mix. It all made you look like a melodramatic queen. As does the post above. 
 

You are the Jim Cramer of PPP. 

Or it makes Trump the TACO man.  Kind of like his stance on tariffs.  And the border wall.  And repeal and replace.  So much for walk softly and carry a big stick.  Now it's wear a diaper, be a fake tough guy, and don't get anything done.  

[BillsFanNC]

As POTUS heads into the Situation Room this morning, a reminder that Central Command confirmed Iran is a quick sprint away from *10* nuclear bombs during testimony on Capitol Hill last
week. Trump has repeatedly and consistently said Iran can’t have a single one. 

“The IAEA uses 90% enrichment as the benchmark for weapons-grade uranium,
and it considers 25 kg of 90% enriched uranium enough to construct a simple nuclear weapon. The IAEA estimates current Iranian stockpiles to include over 400 kg of 60% enriched uranium - almost double of what it was just six months ago. This is mere steps from reaching the 90% threshold for weaponization. Should the Regime decide to sprint to a nuclear weapon, it is estimated that current stockpiles and the available centrifuges across several enrichment plants are sufficient to produce its first 25 kg of weapons-grade material in roughly one week and enough for up to ten nuclear weapons in three weeks.” -General Erik Kurilla, Commander U.S. Central Command June 10, 2025

[ComradeKayAdams]

13 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Peace talks? Iran was never going to give up it's pursuit of a nuclear bomb. Negative never if the motivation was from Israel. Netanyahu IS pursuing a regime change and it is primarily a result of the eventual threat of Nuclear weapons. The regime in Iran and threat of a Nuclear bomb go hand in hand. You can't remove that threat while the regime and Khamenei are still in power.

 

If the energy infrastructure was a primary target he could have easily done the damage you discuss. It's not, as he will lose what support he has if he took those actions. You keep calling out Gaza, so I imagine your beef is more about Palestine. Which I would focus more of your conversation towards. The Iran leaders have been oppressing and killing their own for decades. It is one of the worst regimes in the world. They deserve less than no sympathy and if ultimately the threat of a nuclear bomb was just noise to justify overthrowing Khamenei it's doing the world a favor.      

 

Israel’s attacks on Iran’s fossil fuel infrastructure are already expanding, bruh… The civilian death toll on both sides is increasing. The people of Tehran are being threatened with evacuation recommendations. So yeah…this thing is escalating beyond the limited strikes on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

 

Instigating an internal regime change in Iran with limited external force is just so unbelievably harebrained! The permutations of outcomes are far too numerous to predict, but I can’t seriously envisage new Iranian leadership taking power AND doing so following negligible collateral damage to Iranian civilians. I especially can’t envisage this new leadership group also being friendly with Israel and the U.S. while also having strong support among Iran’s citizens. The current Iranian theocracy remains too deeply entrenched in power despite decades of draconian (and inhumane) sanctions. Iranians may not like their rulers, but they also haven’t been successful in overthrowing them and are simultaneously not too fond of American imperialists, either (not since the 1950’s).

 

If you have concrete evidence that Iran was violating the JCPOA behind the IAEA’s back, then please post it here. Israel has been the proverbial boy who cried “Nuke!” for decades now towards Iran. If we want to discuss Iran’s incorrigibility during peace talks, we first have to examine the reasonableness of demanding they not have nuclear energy to meet their power grid and medical research needs.

 

I bring up the Gaza genocide because it is incredibly germane to this discussion. As I had made perfectly clear, the question of hasbara integrity is crucial to determining whether Israel’s initial attack on Iran was justified. Curious how Israel has banned international war journalists in Gaza, no? Curious how Israel is implementing a total siege in the West Bank at the same time as these attacks against Iran, no? This is what Israelis do…they use various forms of subterfuge to steal land and natural resources (and financial resources, in the case of the U.S.) from others. It’s been their modus operandi since the New Yishuv.

 

Part of me is genuinely shocked that the PPP faithful are actually falling for Israel’s latest lies! Then again, the demographics of PPP are ~99% middle-aged/Boomery men with centrist/conservative political leanings. You guys are way too old and fat to be drafted into another disastrous Middle East regime change war. Your investment portfolios, meanwhile, are likely flush with MIC stocks. So it’s likely more a matter of moral turpitude than hasbara propaganda.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Or it makes Trump the TACO man.  Kind of like his stance on tariffs.  And the border wall.  And repeal and replace.  So much for walk softly and carry a big stick.  Now it's wear a diaper, be a fake tough guy, and don't get anything done.  

Having a clown as president during a crisis is not good

[JDHillFan]

8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Or it makes Trump the TACO man.  Kind of like his stance on tariffs.  And the border wall.  And repeal and replace.  So much for walk softly and carry a big stick.  Now it's wear a diaper, be a fake tough guy, and don't get anything done.  

Sounds like you might have been concerned about the invasions of Panama, Greenland, and Canada too.  Very embarrassing but kudos to you for completing a post without mention of J6. I did not see that coming. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

3 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Israel’s attacks on Iran’s fossil fuel infrastructure are already expanding, bruh… The civilian death toll on both sides is increasing. The people of Tehran are being threatened with evacuation recommendations. So yeah…this thing is escalating beyond the limited strikes on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

 

Instigating an internal regime change in Iran with limited external force is just so unbelievably harebrained! The permutations of outcomes are far too numerous to predict, but I can’t seriously envisage new Iranian leadership taking power AND doing so following negligible collateral damage to Iranian civilians. I especially can’t envisage this new leadership group also being friendly with Israel and the U.S. while also having strong support among Iran’s citizens. The current Iranian theocracy remains too deeply entrenched in power despite decades of draconian (and inhumane) sanctions. Iranians may not like their rulers, but they also haven’t been successful in overthrowing them and are simultaneously not too fond of American imperialists, either (not since the 1950’s).

 

If you have concrete evidence that Iran was violating the JCPOA behind the IAEA’s back, then please post it here. Israel has been the proverbial boy who cried “Nuke!” for decades now towards Iran. If we want to discuss Iran’s incorrigibility during peace talks, we first have to examine the reasonableness of demanding they not have nuclear energy to meet their power grid and medical research needs.

 

I bring up the Gaza genocide because it is incredibly germane to this discussion. As I had made perfectly clear, the question of hasbara integrity is crucial to determining whether Israel’s initial attack on Iran was justified. Curious how Israel has banned international war journalists in Gaza, no? Curious how Israel is implementing a total siege in the West Bank at the same time as these attacks against Iran, no? This is what Israelis do…they use various forms of subterfuge to steal land and natural resources (and financial resources, in the case of the U.S.) from others. It’s been their modus operandi since the New Yishuv.

 

Part of me is genuinely shocked that the PPP faithful are actually falling for Israel’s latest lies! Then again, the demographics of PPP are ~99% middle-aged/Boomery men with centrist/conservative political leanings. You guys are way too old and fat to be drafted into another disastrous Middle East regime change war. Your investment portfolios, meanwhile, are likely flush with MIC stocks. So it’s likely more a matter of moral turpitude than hasbara propaganda.

What exactly is Israel's end game here? To drag the US into their war, I guess. The Iranian regime is horrible, but air attacks won't create regime change. Not sure how this one ends 

[TH3]

11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Or it makes Trump the TACO man.  Kind of like his stance on tariffs.  And the border wall.  And repeal and replace.  So much for walk softly and carry a big stick.  Now it's wear a diaper, be a fake tough guy, and don't get anything done.  

Taco is right…getting embarrassed at the G7 so ducks out to a “situation”.

Edited yesterday at 11:52 AM by TH3

[BillsFanNC]

Hysteria is at a fever pitch in the media. It's almost like we have dozens of examples to point to from recent history that when a crisis hits and the media smells vulnerability, the reliably fabricated reporting levels increase.

 

Maybe, just maybe it might be wise to wait to hear updates straight from the orange pie hole....via social media (gasp!) and elsewhere.

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

What exactly is Israel's end game here?

To survive as a people? 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

2 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Taco is right…getting embarrassed at the G7 so ducks out to a “situation”.

And then telling 10 million people to flee the capital city like he was going to nuke them? Having a complete idiot in a leadership position is not good 

Just now, JDHillFan said:

To survive as a people? 

No, in this attack on Iran. What is end game? 

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you remember referring to Trump’s Greenland and Canada comments as saber rattling? About how he was planning to invade? Add Panama to that mix. It all made you look like a melodramatic queen. As does the post above. 
 

You are the Jim Cramer of PPP. 

Well Trump’s Canada comments won the Liberal Party a majority, so thanks for that!

[JDHillFan]

Just now, Roundybout said:

Well Trump’s Canada comments won the Liberal Party a majority, so thanks for that!

Eventually you will be right about something. I will be first in line to give you credit. 

[Doc]

9 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

 

Glad that's what you got out of what I said.  

 

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

This war never would have happened if Trump was President 

 

This war has been a long time coming.  I was expecting this soon after 10/7.

 

57 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Having a clown as president during a crisis is not good

 

We know.  We lived through the past 4 years...

[LeviF]

This will be such an unforced error by the Trump admin.  All they had to do was ignore the middle east, tell Netandyoohoo to ***** himself, and deport 50 million people. Trying not to doompoast but it's getting hard not to.

1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Part of me is genuinely shocked that the PPP faithful are actually falling for Israel’s latest lies! Then again, the demographics of PPP are ~99% middle-aged/Boomery men with centrist/conservative political leanings. You guys are way too old and fat to be drafted into another disastrous Middle East regime change war. Your investment portfolios, meanwhile, are likely flush with MIC stocks. So it’s likely more a matter of moral turpitude than hasbara propaganda.

 

It's the gaslighting from our "greatest ally" (who has never committed boots on the ground to any of our wars) every time. Not sure what it is about boomers that makes them so susceptible to this propaganda in particular.

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Israel’s attacks on Iran’s fossil fuel infrastructure are already expanding, bruh… The civilian death toll on both sides is increasing. The people of Tehran are being threatened with evacuation recommendations. So yeah…this thing is escalating beyond the limited strikes on Iran’s nuclear infrastructure.

 

Instigating an internal regime change in Iran with limited external force is just so unbelievably harebrained! The permutations of outcomes are far too numerous to predict, but I can’t seriously envisage new Iranian leadership taking power AND doing so following negligible collateral damage to Iranian civilians. I especially can’t envisage this new leadership group also being friendly with Israel and the U.S. while also having strong support among Iran’s citizens. The current Iranian theocracy remains too deeply entrenched in power despite decades of draconian (and inhumane) sanctions. Iranians may not like their rulers, but they also haven’t been successful in overthrowing them and are simultaneously not too fond of American imperialists, either (not since the 1950’s).

 

If you have concrete evidence that Iran was violating the JCPOA behind the IAEA’s back, then please post it here. Israel has been the proverbial boy who cried “Nuke!” for decades now towards Iran. If we want to discuss Iran’s incorrigibility during peace talks, we first have to examine the reasonableness of demanding they not have nuclear energy to meet their power grid and medical research needs.

 

I bring up the Gaza genocide because it is incredibly germane to this discussion. As I had made perfectly clear, the question of hasbara integrity is crucial to determining whether Israel’s initial attack on Iran was justified. Curious how Israel has banned international war journalists in Gaza, no? Curious how Israel is implementing a total siege in the West Bank at the same time as these attacks against Iran, no? This is what Israelis do…they use various forms of subterfuge to steal land and natural resources (and financial resources, in the case of the U.S.) from others. It’s been their modus operandi since the New Yishuv.

 

Part of me is genuinely shocked that the PPP faithful are actually falling for Israel’s latest lies! Then again, the demographics of PPP are ~99% middle-aged/Boomery men with centrist/conservative political leanings. You guys are way too old and fat to be drafted into another disastrous Middle East regime change war. Your investment portfolios, meanwhile, are likely flush with MIC stocks. So it’s likely more a matter of moral turpitude than hasbara propaganda.

I'm a 43 year old, left leaning Trump hater. I'm not buying what Benji is selling, but the Iranian regime, as I said, is among the worst in the world. I feel for those people and know a ton of them who have come here, most with family still in Tehran, and yet they still support what is happening from Israel after watching their freedoms reduced to something out of the Middle Ages under this regime.

 

It is true that the future without Khamenei is uncertain, but it is just as true that the future with him is too. I don't trust Israel, but if these actions can help give those people a chance, then I'm hopeful something good can come from this.

 

I also genuinely do not think Israel has any interest in attacking energy assets that would impact the global system. They have little support for this war as it is, and doing so would all but eliminate it. If you think that is the case, so be it.

[Jauronimo]

OMG THEY'RE TRYING TO START WWIIII!!!11!!! 

[ScotSHO]

13 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I'm a 43 year old, left leaning Trump hater.

 

Imagine defining yourself as "hating" someone.  It does seem popular these days.  What are you going to do when the big beautiful orange tRump is gone?  Turn your ire to the next most popular hate-tee?  Do you have a top 10 list that you could share?