thenorthremembers Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM 4 minutes ago, Homelander said: Keep going. Them being wrong, doesnt make what is going on in LA right. 1
Homelander Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM Posted yesterday at 02:08 PM 6 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Today, I just learned that intervening when foreigners who shouldn't have been here in the first place after their protests are overwhelming local police is "fascism". Par for the course when it comes to the TBD TDS squad. Things like this and last week's attacks are campaigning for the Republican side in 2026 better than anything that they could say. No one wants that chaos no matter how much the media tries to change the narrative. Keep em coming guys. Yeah, protests are 'overwhelming' LA - never mind this place has handled multiple championship parades without breaking a sweat. If a few signs and chants shake your worldview, maybe the problem isn’t the protestors. 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Its literally no use responding to them anymore. They've lost all rationality or common sense. They have no sense of morality and side with lawlessness. Says the intellectually dishonest guy who suddenly goes blind when faced with actual insurrection and inconvenient facts. Just now, thenorthremembers said: Them being wrong, doesnt make what is going on in LA right. Them being wrong doesn’t make you right - especially when your outrage only shows up for the narratives you’re told to care about.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 02:13 PM Posted yesterday at 02:13 PM 36 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: bs. my paying 10k more without everyone else above me having their rates increased. would be spit in the ocean on the deficit. totally futile. waste of money. conversely, increasing the tax on everyone over $250 or $400 k would make a dent and is the answer along with cutting spending. Who doesn't like money? People that don't have it? I didn't steal anything unlike the president who you apologize for. Ironically, you’re exactly like Trump. Both of youruse the tax code to justify windfall earnings (relative, of course). The difference is Trump embraces it, you dance around like Mr Bojangles pretending you don’t see your own hypocrisy. At the same time, you’re complaining that other wealthy/wealthier people, certainly the vast majority liberals based on education and income levels as you frequently point out, need to do more in order to convince you that it’s appropriate for you to contribute more. This is the typical über wealthy liberal response. “We have major problems! You should do more!”. As for the dollar amount, $10,000 doesn’t sound like it would put a dent in your country club lifestyle, but if you want to be cautious, maybe consider $5,000. Find a stout number and move on. I’m not here to judge. 1 1
thenorthremembers Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM Posted yesterday at 02:16 PM (edited) 8 minutes ago, Homelander said: Yeah, protests are 'overwhelming' LA - never mind this place has handled multiple championship parades without breaking a sweat. If a few signs and chants shake your worldview, maybe the problem isn’t the protestors. Says the intellectually dishonest guy who suddenly goes blind when faced with actual insurrection and inconvenient facts. Them being wrong doesn’t make you right - especially when your outrage only shows up for the narratives you’re told to care about. Calling me intellectually dishonest and then calling harboring criminals, shooting fireworks at police, throwing bricks at and firebombing cars a "few signs and chants" Your hypocrisy never ends man. Edited yesterday at 02:17 PM by thenorthremembers 1 1 1
Homelander Posted yesterday at 02:19 PM Posted yesterday at 02:19 PM 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: Calling me intellectually dishonest and then calling harboring criminals, shooting fireworks at police, throwing bricks at and firebombing cars a "few signs and chants" Your hypocrisy never ends man. What’s actually intellectually dishonest is pretending every protestor is a violent criminal just because you need a villain. No one - literally no one - is defending bricks or firebombs. But reducing an entire movement to a few bad actors (probably bankrolled by the same people who fund groups like the Proud Boys) isn’t just lazy - it’s propaganda. You know it, you just don’t care 1
thenorthremembers Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM 4 minutes ago, Homelander said: What’s actually intellectually dishonest is pretending every protestor is a violent criminal just because you need a villain. No one - literally no one - is defending bricks or firebombs. But reducing an entire movement to a few bad actors (probably bankrolled by the same people who fund groups like the Proud Boys) isn’t just lazy - it’s propaganda. You know it, you just don’t care I don't mention the protestors with signs and chants because its their right to do so. The second those signs and chants turn into interfering with a government agency doing their job by arresting actual criminals, then I have a problem with it. I cant tell you how comical it is to read you write something like "But reducing an entire movement to a few bad actors (probably bankrolled by the same people who fund groups like the Proud Boys) isn’t just lazy - it’s propaganda. You know it, you just don’t care" when you constantly do the same thing to "MAGA" republicans. And by constantly I don't mean like my few responses a week, but constantly, even in threads where it's just you responding to yourself. Its hard to take anything you write seriously because you're a constant hypocrite. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM Author Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM 16 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Ironically, you’re exactly like Trump. Both of youruse the tax code to justify windfall earnings (relative, of course). The difference is Trump embraces it, you dance around like Mr Bojangles pretending you don’t see your own hypocrisy. At the same time, you’re complaining that other wealthy/wealthier people, certainly the vast majority liberals based on education and income levels as you frequently point out, need to do more in order to convince you that it’s appropriate for you to contribute more. This is the typical über wealthy liberal response. “We have major problems! You should do more!”. As for the dollar amount, $10,000 doesn’t sound like it would put a dent in your country club lifestyle, but if you want to be cautious, maybe consider $5,000. Find a stout number and move on. I’m not here to judge. This is a fallacious argument on many levels. Firstly, I don't use the tax code to justify windfall earnings. I follow the tax code. I have no windfall earnings. My pay and now portfolio were earned by hard work and good sense. Nothing more. trump has multiple documented instances of stealing from contractors and who knows who else. I never stole a penny from anyone. But while I'm as competitive a capitalist as trump, my morals and ethics are very different Lots of liberals like me are willing to more in taxes if it will help the economy. The big tax revenue pool is with the biggest earners. My 10k goes up exponentially when the 100k's or millions multiply from the .3%. otherwise, it does no good. you know your argument is intellectually dishonest here. but many of yours are. I am proud of you for keeping it under 200 words....
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: ICE needs to go home. Simple as that. So do the illegals!!! 1 1
dgrochester55 Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM 8 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I don't mention the protestors with signs and chants because its their right to do so. The second those signs and chants turn into interfering with a government agency doing their job by arresting actual criminals, then I have a problem with it. I cant tell you how comical it is to read you write something like "But reducing an entire movement to a few bad actors (probably bankrolled by the same people who fund groups like the Proud Boys) isn’t just lazy - it’s propaganda. You know it, you just don’t care" when you constantly do the same thing to "MAGA" republicans. And by constantly I don't mean like my few responses a week, but constantly, even in threads where it's just you responding to yourself. Its hard to take anything you write seriously because you're a constant hypocrite. In some cases like Tibs, Doc and Roundy I feel like they are actual people being true to their thoughts, but Homelander is a pure troll with no other intention besides that. 1 1
Roundybout Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM Posted yesterday at 02:51 PM 8 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: So do the illegals!!! Obama did it the legal way and deported more than Trump. Why is Trump such a failure? 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I dont have time to fact check every article you just posted, but I have no doubt each one could have holes poked in it. For instance, the first headline makes it look like the Brazilian was a US Citizen being detained for no reason. It appears from the small write up he was in fact not a US Citizen. The second article's headline makes it look like this poor pregnant woman was shoved for no reason other than ICE is a bunch of out of control nutcases. When in reality she was looking to harbor an illegal and resisting ICE's attempt to apprehend a criminal. Should a pregnant woman ever be shoved, no. Should a pregnant woman harbor criminals, also no. When you put yourself in bad situations, bad things happen. The last article is my favorite because it plays the "brown skin" card. ICE agents don't need warrants to arrest criminals. You can post as many sad empathy inducing headlines as you want, but the bottom line is these people are or are supporting criminals. I have plenty more, don’t worry:
nedboy7 Posted yesterday at 02:58 PM Posted yesterday at 02:58 PM 2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: What evidence do you have of the former? Tommy eyeballs was criticizing the latter. He apparently is against organizing peaceful protests and thus the first amendment. I think we see some of the most rabid MAGAs here. It's a special type of stupid on here. I have friends who voted for Trump. None of them are the #######s on here. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 03:13 PM Author Posted yesterday at 03:13 PM 11 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: It's a special type of stupid on here. I have friends who voted for Trump. None of them are the #######s on here. I've met some in real life. been told n****r jokes to see my reaction, for instance ( i gave them a blank expression and no reply as if didn't hear it). not the sharpest or most successful tools in the shed and essentially harmless. trump gives them the illusion of empowerment.
thenorthremembers Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM Posted yesterday at 03:23 PM (edited) 33 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Obama did it the legal way and deported more than Trump. Why is Trump such a failure? I have plenty more, don’t worry: Do you have any articles that have actual illegal activity by federal agents? Everything in that tweet, despite being heavy on the empathy inducing hyperbole was perfectly legal. Federal agents make warrantless arrests- Federal agents dont need warrants to make arrests Masked agents take people into custody without identifying themselves- Federal agents do not need to identify themselves when making an arrest Plainclothes agents in at least a dozen cities have arrested migrants who showed up to their court hearings- Federal agents do not have to be in uniform to make an arrest. What were the court hearings for? Were they migrants with an active green card or US citizenship? Or were they here illegally? And across the U.S., people suspected of being in the country illegally are disappearing into the federal detention system without notice to families or lawyers, according to attorneys, witnesses and officials- People in the US illegally can be detained without having their family notified. In Coral Springs, Fla., at least eight agents in tactical gear, shields and rifles surrounded a home with guns raised to arrest a father with no criminal history- Was the "Father" with no criminal history an illegal immigrant? If so, he is a criminal despite not having done further criminal activity. ICE agents drove a phalanx of military vehicles in the Orange County suburb to arrest a person, though not for illegal immigration. They were seeking a resident’s son who had allegedly posted fliers alerting neighbors to the presence of ICE agents- What this article forgot to mention is the fliers contained personal information of federal agents which is a felony. He may not have been an illegal immigrant but he was certainly a criminal. Edited yesterday at 03:25 PM by thenorthremembers
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM 41 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: It's a special type of stupid on here. I have friends who voted for Trump. None of them are the #######s on here. Y are you always so agitated?
T master Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM On 6/10/2025 at 6:06 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said: If I was there at th outset, I'd attend. I'm sure there are like mannered Angelinos that were there. You might think IR'm an ####### but I'm not lawless. Never been arrested nor do I think I ever will. I'll bet there are some on this board who can't say that. Once the military came I would have left immediately. We all should know what happened to the Tianemen Square protester who stood in front of a tank. The Chinese thing was TOTALLY different than this situation !! The actions taken were a reaction to those actionstaken by those that didn't leave and added to or started the violence (unlike a law abiding citizen like your self) which that reaction needed to be taken to address what was going on by those that are the Lawless A** Holes of which I talked about . ICE was there and took all the legal actions to round up those that broke the law in some way shape or form and because of their actions are made to suffer the consequences of those actions yet others in many situations over the past lets say 10 years look at the criminals as the good guys when in fact it is the exact opposite if ALL of the facts are presented and known . Then even when those facts are presented there are those (some of which reside here) that still think wrong is right and vise versa and those are the ones that are the problem & for the life of me I can in no way see how they figure wrong to be right if they have any ounce of common sense which in todays world that seems to be the biggest problem because true common sense in America is all but gone and to know the difference between right and wrong is too !! 1 hour ago, Homelander said: Yeah, protests are 'overwhelming' LA - never mind this place has handled multiple championship parades without breaking a sweat. If a few signs and chants shake your worldview, maybe the problem isn’t the protestors. Says the intellectually dishonest guy who suddenly goes blind when faced with actual insurrection and inconvenient facts. Them being wrong doesn’t make you right - especially when your outrage only shows up for the narratives you’re told to care about. That narrative being A LAW ABIDING SOCIETY - now there's a terrible thought ...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 04:07 PM Posted yesterday at 04:07 PM 49 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: This is a fallacious argument on many levels. Firstly, I don't use the tax code to justify windfall earnings. I follow the tax code. I have no windfall earnings. My pay and now portfolio were earned by hard work and good sense. Nothing more. trump has multiple documented instances of stealing from contractors and who knows who else. I never stole a penny from anyone. But while I'm as competitive a capitalist as trump, my morals and ethics are very different Lots of liberals like me are willing to more in taxes if it will help the economy. The big tax revenue pool is with the biggest earners. My 10k goes up exponentially when the 100k's or millions multiply from the .3%. otherwise, it does no good. you know your argument is intellectually dishonest here. but many of yours are. I am proud of you for keeping it under 200 words.... Ah, the old 'hard work, grit and good common sense' argument, I was wondering when you would trot out that old trope. Get in line, Fergie, that applies to most successful people. It seems like in your case, you use that to justify not doing your fair share while pointing at other people who need to. As far as arguing, I'm not--I'm just having a dialogue on what you say v what you do. That caused you to bring Trump into it, discussing his integrity as if it somehow justifies your actions. As for liberals being "willing to pay more if it will help the economy", I agree liberals are extremely effective in branding their message as such, woefully inadequate at actually parting with their money to do so. It's a thought exercise, nothing more, nothing less. We also agree those big talk/no action liberals are just like you. Anyway, we're going around in circles. Good talk. 1
Niagara Bill Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM Posted yesterday at 04:32 PM 2 hours ago, B-Man said: American Citizens who are violent and attacking others I guess you forgot that part. . No I didn't. Military used against their citizens is wrong and dangerous. LA is hardly a take over of the government, a long way from Jan 6. Is the military now a presidents personal police force without a governors request. My goodness, people went crazy at Waco, and that was just FBI, and don't say these are illegals, maybe a % was, but most are citizens. So the courts have no control, a governor has no control, congress has no power...the military is used against its own, military parades, will they soon arrest a political opponent ? How do you spell constitution? 1 1
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM Posted yesterday at 04:38 PM 6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: No I didn't. Military used against their citizens is wrong and dangerous. LA is hardly a take over of the government, a long way from Jan 6. Is the military now a presidents personal police force without a governors request. My goodness, people went crazy at Waco, and that was just FBI, and don't say these are illegals, maybe a % was, but most are citizens. So the courts have no control, a governor has no control, congress has no power...the military is used against its own, military parades, will they soon arrest a political opponent ? How do you spell constitution? Oh God, do you ever stop being dramatic? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 05:01 PM Author Posted yesterday at 05:01 PM 47 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Ah, the old 'hard work, grit and good common sense' argument, I was wondering when you would trot out that old trope. Get in line, Fergie, that applies to most successful people. It seems like in your case, you use that to justify not doing your fair share while pointing at other people who need to. As far as arguing, I'm not--I'm just having a dialogue on what you say v what you do. That caused you to bring Trump into it, discussing his integrity as if it somehow justifies your actions. As for liberals being "willing to pay more if it will help the economy", I agree liberals are extremely effective in branding their message as such, woefully inadequate at actually parting with their money to do so. It's a thought exercise, nothing more, nothing less. We also agree those big talk/no action liberals are just like you. Anyway, we're going around in circles. Good talk. nope you brought trump into it. he's been convicted of defrauding banks. My business practice are nothing like his. Nor are most of the other liberals who are willing to pay more in taxes. Itt's not branding. It's the truth. I'm all for cutting costs as well. So long as it's done in a rational way, cutting actual fraud an abuse. Many who will lose their Medicaid are not fraudsters. Some ar and I'm all for cutting them off and even prosecuting them. Cutting funding to FEMA is not the way. Nor attacking universities and important research funding etc. The most I can do to increase revenue is support and vote for candidates who will raise taxes on the affluent. I do that every election.
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