Los Angeles under military attack

[T master]

On 6/7/2025 at 10:43 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/los-angeles-ice-raids-spark-protests-fear-outrage-our-community-is-under-attack/ar-AA1GfpRF

 

This doesn't look like America.  It looks like fascism.

Looks like a BS post to me trying to put a liberal twist on law enforcement trying to enforce the laws in place then a bunch of lawless A** Holes that are as the ABC reporter said and others said a couple of years ago "people just having a little fun watching (Or setting cars on fire) to watch them burn, or like they said a few years ago they are just "Peaceful protests" ?? 

 

How about let's call it what TF it is just a bunch of lawless A** holes that don't care about law and order !! This is just a administration upholding the laws put in place and a lawless society wanting to do WETF they want when and how they see fit to turn America into another 3rd world country ...

 

But hey that may just be me because !  I can remember when the law of the LAND in which we live in was to be upheld by ALL that came here and ALL that decided to stay & live here not just those law abiding American citizens ...

 

How our country has changed ! You can spit in a law enforcements officers military mans face, burn the flag anytime, any where you want, threaten the life of the POTUS, fly another country's flag above the US flag and all of this is okay our country is becoming a S**T hole right before our eyes and folks like you and others think it's all okay or that upholding the law of the land is the wrong thing to do . 

 

And you have the likes of Newsome & Bass leading the charge of this liberal mind set allowing and sticking up for the lawlessness . God help us all !!!! 

[All_Pro_Bills]

9 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Not everybody fits in these categories. But they explain a large part of the motivations and anger behind each party. 

I see it a little different than a two political parties environment. I think there are at least seven groups or ideologies vying for power. Viewing the political landscape in this way may provide some different perspectives and conclusions.

 

The globalist, WEF, one world government types

Neocons, Neoliberals, dedicated to perpetual warfare and support of the U.S. Empire

The open border, anti-traditional America faction, far left

Progressive, liberals, others interested in social justice issues

Populist, MAGA, America First

Traditional conservatives

Libertarians (not many of these people)

 

Over time they form temporary alliances of convenience in order to maintain or acquire power to further their interests. When the alliance no longer serves a particular groups interests they leave. Become part of another or form their own.

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Do you think history will show that the public was misled about DJT's current mental and physical condition?  Where's the medicals?  Why the stumbling on the steps of Air Force One?  Why the slurred words?  Why the incoherent articulation of his thoughts?  

 

I do.  Just as I think we were misled about JB's mental state.  JB is done, off the stage, and no longer relevant.  But Trump is still here, and it's worth making these points because of MAGA's affinity for the conspiracy game.  (Where are those Epstein files, again?)

Well, based on recent history, it’s possible though I don’t see the MSM participating in the deception to the extent they protected Biden. I also don’t see an unflinching, unquestioning commitment to belief in stories told by MSM outlets like I see with folks on your side of the aisle. 
 

In the event your version of a conspiracy comes to pass, I’d probably follow your lead when the dust settles and state that “DJT is off the stage, and no longer relevant.” when the time was right.  That would be immediately after it was revealed, of course. Such is politics. 
 

As for the Epstein files, I never understood why they remained hidden, but it seems the DOJ has opted to follow the Biden DOJ lead.  Continuity is good? From my side of things, I’m comfortable that the Biden admin would have selectively released any damaging or potentially damaging information contained in the files, consistent with the scorched earth policy followed during his admin. However, anything is possible. 

Edited yesterday at 12:01 PM by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, T master said:

Looks like a BS post to me trying to put a liberal twist on law enforcement trying to enforce the laws in place then a bunch of lawless A** Holes that are as the ABC reporter said and others said a couple of years ago "people just having a little fun watching (Or setting cars on fire) to watch them burn, or like they said a few years ago they are just "Peaceful protests" ?? 

 

How about let's call it what TF it is just a bunch of lawless A** holes that don't care about law and order !! This is just a administration upholding the laws put in place and a lawless society wanting to do WETF they want when and how they see fit to turn America into another 3rd world country ...

 

But hey that may just be me because !  I can remember when the law of the LAND in which we live in was to be upheld by ALL that came here and ALL that decided to stay & live here not just those law abiding American citizens ...

 

How our country has changed ! You can spit in a law enforcements officers military mans face, burn the flag anytime, any where you want, threaten the life of the POTUS, fly another country's flag above the US flag and all of this is okay our country is becoming a S**T hole right before our eyes and folks like you and others think it's all okay or that upholding the law of the land is the wrong thing to do . 

 

And you have the likes of Newsome & Bass leading the charge of this liberal mind set allowing and sticking up for the lawlessness . God help us all !!!! 

If I was there at th outset, I'd attend.  I'm sure there are like mannered Angelinos that were there.  You might think IR'm an ####### but I'm not lawless.  Never been arrested nor do I think I ever will.  I'll bet there are some on this board who can't say that.  Once the military came I would have left immediately.  We all should know what happened to the Tianemen Square protester who stood in front of a tank.

[Big Blitz]

 

[T master]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

If I was there at th outset, I'd attend.  I'm sure there are like mannered Angelinos that were there.  You might think IR'm an ####### but I'm not lawless.  Never been arrested nor do I think I ever will.  I'll bet there are some on this board who can't say that.  Once the military came I would have left immediately.  We all should know what happened to the Tianemen Square protester who stood in front of a tank.

If you stood around and watched lawless A holes Strat cars on fire, throw pieces of concrete block at officers, want those officers that are doing the job they are hired to do which is UPHOLD THE LAWS PUT IN PLACE by those voted into office and did nothing but stand there then you are part of the problem .

 

Why did you go ? What is the reason for these people starting cars on fire and the rest I said ? Because they do not in any way care about the law ! There is a right way and a wrong way to do things just like with immigration, file for your green card or visa and come here the way millions of other LAW ABIDING people have done for hundreds of years or just don't give a ***** and walk across the border knowingly breaking the law and suffer the consequences !! 

 

Or go to those that you voted into office and tell them to change the laws or go out and burn a bunch of cars, or deface others property, which is breaking OH WAIT that's a peaceful protest MY BAD !!! never mind ... 

 

Yah this is communist china for sure but these jack wagons are trying to make it something worse !! And you support it as you "innocently sit back" and watch .

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

It's kind of funny how out of touch with reality you are.   This is the point the poster you were responding to was trying to make.   First and foremost,  at least 60% of Americans consider themselves Christian, whether you believe them that's up to you, but that's how they identify, and we all know how important it is to let people identify themselves right?

 

Secondly, in terms of where conservatives stand on abortion and LGBTQ+ rights, these arent strictly "Christian beliefs."  In terms of abortion, especially when it comes to a pregnancy that wont kill the Mother, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, Jews and people of the Baha'i faith all agree it's wrong.    

 

Again, with LGBTQ+ Jew, Muslims, and Christians all believe homosexuality is a sin.   

 

The reality is, religions of all kinds setup a moral structure for its believers to live their lives.    Anti-Abortion and Anti-homosexuality is not a Christian tenant alone.   But liberals try to frame it that way to fit a narrative.   Not sure what you meant about education.   I assume it just goes back to teaching liberal ideas in school.

 

Got it, it's all religion, not just the primary one in the US. Which changes what exactly? And reading this post, its a bit silly to call me "out of touch". Your belief system is from 1000+ years ago.  

[K D]

Fetterman didn't read his email with the approved talking points. Jefferies and Schumer going to give him a spanking

 

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

Got it, it's all religion, not just the primary one in the US. Which changes what exactly? And reading this post, its a bit silly to call me "out of touch". Your belief system is from 1000+ years ago.  

 

This is your exact quote. 

 

"The political right in the U.S. often aligns with Christian conservative values promoting policies on issues like abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, and education that reflect those beliefs. This can feel exclusionary to people of different faiths or none at all, especially when those religious values influence laws."

 

As such, me pointing out that a majority of religions disagree with liberal ideals discredits your entire argument that people of other faiths feel excluded by conservative politics.   Something has to dictate law.   Does it not make sense that morality, as seen by a majority of religions, would dictate law rather than a complete lack of morality?   What defines right or wrong for non-believing people?  And where did that the idea of right and wrong originally come from?

 

I am calling you out of touch because your entire argument was that Chrisitan values are the basis for the political right.  Which is what most liberals like to say.  You wouldnt dare to call out any other religion because you dont want to seem intolerant, despite the fact that you're actually completely intolerant.    It's hypocrisy.   

 

The reality is religious values, or just values in general are the things driving the political right.    The Bible may be thousands of years old, but morality, the choice between what is right and what is wrong should not change with time.  

 

The dissolution of those values is why you see people cheering evil in LA right now.     

 

  

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:01 PM by thenorthremembers

[Homelander]

 

[SCBills]

Pretty much where I’m at right now. 
 

And most of America agrees.  
 

Enough with the temper tantrums and gaslighting. 
 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Best explanation I’ve seen. Rome is burning

 

https://www.newsweek.com/peter-turchin-political-violence-donald-trump-barack-obama-riots-2083007

 

[JDHillFan]

7 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Best explanation I’ve seen. Rome is burning

 

https://www.newsweek.com/peter-turchin-political-violence-donald-trump-barack-obama-riots-2083007

 

Interesting article. The link description/title is crap. 

Edited yesterday at 03:38 PM by JDHillFan

[IrishLass]

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

40 minutes ago, IrishLass said:

 

As predicted in 2010.  See above link.  It's happening right now as predicted.

 

In his 2010 analysis published by Nature, Turchin identified several warning signs in the domestic electorate: stagnating wages, a growing wealth gap, a surplus of educated elites without corresponding elite jobs, and an accelerating fiscal deficit. All of these phenomena, he argued, had reached a turning point in the 1970s. "These seemingly disparate social indicators are actually related to each other dynamically," he wrote at the time.

"Nearly every one of those indicators has intensified," Turchin said in an interview with Newsweek, citing real wage stagnation, the effects of artificial intelligence on the professional class and increasingly unmanageable public finances.

Turchin's prediction was based on a framework known as Structural-Demographic Theory (SDT), which models how historical forces—economic inequality, elite competition and state capacity—interact to drive cycles of political instability. These cycles have recurred across empires and republics, from ancient Rome to the Ottoman Empire.

 

 

"Structural-Demographic Theory enables us to analyze historical dynamics and apply that understanding to current trajectories," Turchin said. "It's not prophecy. It's modeling feedback loops that repeat with alarming regularity."

He argues that violence in the U.S. tends to repeat about every 50 years— pointing to spasms of unrest around 1870, 1920, 1970 and 2020. He links these periods to how generations tend to forget what came before. "After two generations, memories of upheaval fade, elites begin to reorganize systems in their favor, and the stress returns," he said.

 

One of the clearest historical parallels to now, he notes, is the 1970s. That decade saw radical movements emerge from university campuses and middle-class enclaves not just in the U.S., but across the West. The far-left Weather Underground movement, which started as a campus organization at the University of Michigan, bombed government buildings and banks; the Red Army Faction in West Germany and Italy's Red Brigades carried out kidnappings and assassinations. These weren't movements of the dispossessed, but of the downwardly mobile—overeducated and politically alienated.

"There's a real risk of that dynamic resurfacing," Turchin said.

 

 

edit:  went to the no kings site.  nothing about communism.  They're helping to organize a nationwide rally that will draw thousands against dictatorship.  That's democracy, not communism.  Not exactly the weather underground but that's probably coming soon.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever

[SCBills]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

Interesting article. The link description/title is crap. 

Agreed. Peter Turchin was on to something with his "overproduction of elites."

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

What I'm seeing in these quick polls: yes, Americans dislike violent protests (read: riots). No, Americans don't like sending in the military.

Common sense, perhaps more prevalent in the ordinary people than in the political class.

[yall]

1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

Interesting article. The link description/title is crap. 

Too much debt plus a generation of idiots with useless degrees? Yeah I'd say we're ripe.

[Homelander]

Lying isn’t just what they do - it’s who they are.

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

3 minutes ago, Homelander said:

Lying isn’t just what they do - it’s who they are.

 

 

Do u think Gavin Newsome is a good governor?