JDHillFan Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, stevestojan said: makes me truly baffled that the GOP couldn’t find an adult to do the job Me too. It’s stunning. Please keep in mind that in addition to Biden, the democrats have given us Hillary and Harris as their other nominees in the Trump era. That’s embarrassing all the way around. 1
Taro T Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, stevestojan said: We certainly disagree on him turning the country around, you’re right. But that’s the politics part. The part we’re supposed to be talking about here. And be makes it so easy to dismiss anything positive he’s done because he acts like a spoiled 7th grade doofus daily. But I appreciate both your and @JDHillFan’s reply here. Basically, you know he has personality flaws (I’m being nice to have a civil conversation) because you feel he’s SUCH a good POTUS, the antics are worth it. Fine, maybe I’ll stop calling him your deity. But just you two, to start. 🙂 I’d still disagree with most of his policies if he acted like an adult, but the phone book long list of embarrassing things he does and says makes me truly baffled that the GOP couldn’t find an adult to do the job (remember, I think Biden stunk too). Ok, back to the RFK thread. This being civil feels weird. You have to understand, the GOP didn't want him any more than the D's did. But their rank and file DID want him. And after 4 years of hearing every day how he was going to destroy the country and cause WWIII during his 1st term, with neither actually occurring and after 4 years of watching the world burn during 46's term with inflation and illegal immigration running wild and his VP saying literally "nope, wouldn't change a single policy" independents held their noses and voted for him too. The GOP would MUCH rather have had a Romney or Jeb Bush as the president, but they didn't get their way either. And yes, his over the top NYC trash talking is beyond cringe way too often. And totally don't get his tariff centric economic policy. But his foreign policy is leaps and bounds better than what the D's have been putting forth for the past decade or so. And that fact that he believes we should actually have borders is also leaps and bounds better than anything the D's have put forth in at least the last decade. 1 3
Homelander Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Taro T said: You have to understand, the GOP didn't want him any more than the D's did. But their rank and file DID want him. And after 4 years of hearing every day how he was going to destroy the country and cause WWIII during his 1st term, with neither actually occurring and after 4 years of watching the world burn during 46's term with inflation and illegal immigration running wild and his VP saying literally "nope, wouldn't change a single policy" independents held their noses and voted for him too. The GOP would MUCH rather have had a Romney or Jeb Bush as the president, but they didn't get their way either. And yes, his over the top NYC trash talking is beyond cringe way too often. And totally don't get his tariff centric economic policy. But his foreign policy is leaps and bounds better than what the D's have been putting forth for the past decade or so. And that fact that he believes we should actually have borders is also leaps and bounds better than anything the D's have put forth in at least the last decade. Look at this load of *****. Let’s get real: you conveniently erase Trump’s catastrophic failures - over a million dead Americans due to his COVID negligence, and the economic and health disaster he left Biden to clean up. Stop rewriting history and blaming the guy who inherited Trump’s mess. 1
stevestojan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) This is the most refreshing thread I’ve seen in quite some time. Well, minus my fellow democrat here. @Homelanderwe were doing so well. The Rs were making valid points and were talking about Trump the man at the moment. We’ll never ever find common ground when the “other side” is engaging someone like me in legit adult talk and you come in a crap on it. Pump the brakes every once in a while man. You and I are much more aligned politically than we are with B-Man and JD but they’re not ***** enemies. 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Me too. It’s stunning. Please keep in mind that in addition to Biden, the democrats have given us Hillary and Harris as their other nominees in the Trump era. That’s embarrassing all the way around. We didn’t select Harris. Of all the things people call corrupt I’m shocked there’s not more talk about how that went down. Biden has a horrible debate after being locked in a basement for a year like Jake Fromm, then we dems don’t get to decide who replaces him. Edited 9 hours ago by stevestojan 1 1
Homelander Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, stevestojan said: This is the most refreshing thread I’ve seen in quite some time. Well, minus my fellow democrat here. @Homelanderwe were doing so well. The Rs were making valid points and were talking about Trump the man at the moment. We’ll never ever find common ground when the “other side” is engaging someone like me in legit adult talk and you come in a crap on it. Pump the brakes every once in a while man. You and I are much more aligned politically than we are with B-Man and JD but they’re not ***** enemies. Save it. These people are beyond redemption - so deep in their cult mindset that no reasoning will reach them.
stevestojan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Homelander said: Save it. These people are beyond redemption - so deep in their cult mindset that no reasoning will reach them. Posts like that should narrow the divide. 🙄 Did you see what all three said? They don’t like the man, they wish he would shut up, but for the most part, they like his policies and what’s he’s done more than they dislike the persona. I will say I couldn’t disagree with them more on the politics, can’t even imagine thinking that way; but if we ever have a chance of the country not being at each others’ throats constantly, those are the things we should discuss. I’m not jumping ship. And there are certainly some on here on the right that are nothing but trolls (I’m being nice tonight, maybe just a small attempt at lessening the vitriol here, so I won’t name him but you know who I mean. Uses an up arrow so he can pretend he has the world on ignore; as if that’s some badge of honor. And another who literally only talks hate, never adding to the conversation.) But these three gave reasonable answers to my post. You have to agree there. Or maybe you don’t and let’s just keep calling each other names in perpetuity.
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