Which NFL team had the best offseason so far? Which has had the worst?

[BullBuchanan]

46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

He was a 2nd round talent that dropped to the 5th round because teams wanted to avoid the headache of having him as a backup.  If any team wanted to employ your strategy he would've been taken in the 3rd or 4th round.  Not worth the headache.  

I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're making the argument that his skill wasn't worth the draft pick a team would have to use on him concerning his character. if so, I think that's the consensus among NFL folks. However, I think it also came out that as a player he's not nearly as strong a prospect as others in the draft, so there are also real football concerns.

Regardless, It's hard to understand how a 5th round pick could possibly be a meaningful distraction to your football team. He's not going to be getting interviews when he's inactive on game days, and veteran leaders int he lockeroom won't be pushing for him to get starting reps unless he comes out and tears it up. In which case, win for the Browns.

[Doc Brown]

8 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

I don't understand what you're trying to say. It sounds like you're making the argument that his skill wasn't worth the draft pick a team would have to use on him concerning his character. if so, I think that's the consensus among NFL folks. However, I think it also came out that as a player he's not nearly as strong a prospect as others in the draft, so there are also real football concerns.

Regardless, It's hard to understand how a 5th round pick could possibly be a meaningful distraction to your football team. He's not going to be getting interviews when he's inactive on game days, and veteran leaders int he lockeroom won't be pushing for him to get starting reps unless he comes out and tears it up. In which case, win for the Browns.

That's the point I was trying to make given the anonymous negative reports that came out with him regarding the draft process.  I get the argument for having a cost controlled 5th round backup QB for four years that you might be able to flip a pick for but only if that player is willing to accept the role as a backup (what Beane tried to do with Jake Fromm).  Based off everything I've seen and heard from him and his father.....that's not happening.

[3rdand12]

10 hours ago, Commish said:

All in fun - although I had never heard of "nescient" before

I knew a tad of the word and meaning of nascent 

We learn more and more here nearly everyday 😉

[BullBuchanan]

4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

That's the point I was trying to make given the anonymous negative reports that came out with him regarding the draft process.  I get the argument for having a cost controlled 5th round backup QB for four years that you might be able to flip a pick for but only if that player is willing to accept the role as a backup (what Beane tried to do with Jake Fromm).  Based off everything I've seen and heard from him and his father.....that's not happening.

The alternative is retirement. Again,for a 5th round pick, easy gamble. They don't need him to be the guy. If he is and they got him for a 5th? Great!

If Sanders sits and does nothing for 4 years in Cleveland, he'll probably have to sign a 1 year $2M deal with some dumpster fire of a team to try to prove himself in his age 27 season. He has absolutely zero leverage left in his career until he proves he's better than the 3rd string QB he is right now.

[Doc Brown]

2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

The alternative is retirement. Again,for a 5th round pick, easy gamble. They don't need him to be the guy. If he is and they got him for a 5th? Great!

If Sanders sits and does nothing for 4 years in Cleveland, he'll probably have to sign a 1 year $2M deal with some dumpster fire of a team to try to prove himself in his age 27 season. He has absolutely zero leverage left in his career until he proves he's better than the 3rd string QB he is right now.

We're going to have to agree to disagree.  I don't want that entitled and cocky kid within 100 miles of Orchard Park.  

[Cash]

On 5/5/2025 at 12:09 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

They've already paid him and there is no way of getting out of it until after the 2027 season. I hate the big trade up slightly less than you for that exact reason. They don't need those picks for a QB. Lawrence is their guy for at least the next 3 seasons. If they see Hunter as a receiver first then it's kind of a final swing at the fences in terms of putting the pieces around Trevor to help him succeed. It might be throwing more assets at an already sunk cost but if the QB is no good they are not gonna be a good team the next 3 years anyway. 

 

My take is a little different: I think they're taking a swing at having a real superstar for once, and being relevant.  No one cares about the Jags.  No one's ever cared about the Jags.  Trevor Lawrence is a good(?) QB, but not cool enough to be a major star without major wins.  Hunter is potentially the coolest player in a long time.  And as a bonus, he's from Georgia and appears happy to be playing close to home.  A potential superstar who actually wants to be there?  That could be a game changer for a franchise like Jacksonville.

 

If Hunter makes it as a two-way player in any meaningful capacity, he will be the favorite player of a whole generation of young fans.  And it could work on-field as well.  I assume the plan is for Hunter to shore up the pass defense at CB and be functionally the WR2 to BTJ on offense.  (I know the GM has said they're going to lead with WR and ease him into defense.  In the interview I watched, that sounded like an onboarding plan with the goal of Hunter playing both ways this year and beyond.)