What Does "Due Process" Mean?

[The Frankish Reich]

Read the Fifth Amendment. Show me where it distinguishes between citizens and aliens.

[Steve O]

38 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Read the Fifth Amendment. Show me where it distinguishes between citizens and aliens.

Article IV, section 4 states "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;..."

Invading the country, then asking for due process under its constitution is like stealing an item from a store, then trying to hold the manufacturer responsible for the warranty.

[nedboy7]

44 minutes ago, Steve O said:

 

 

Where in the constitution are these rights of non-citizens addressed? The only statement I can find that addresses non citizens is in Article III clause 2 section 2 "...cases between U.S. citizens and foreign states and their citizens, come under federal jurisdiction. The trials will be in the state where the crime was committed."

 

Its in the wording.  But whatever.  Do you believe that any non-citizen can be treated however the current regime feels is appropriate or do all humans have some basic rights in your view.  I am not a liberal nor do I think you should let random immigrants roam the country for 7 years before their trial.  

[Homelander]

Imagine that - the Trump regime isn’t about enforcing laws it’s about weaponizing fear. They're using smoke-and-mirrors tactics, targeting even legal immigrants and citizens, not because it's legal, but because it sends a chilling message.

 

This isn't policy - it's a full-blown psyop designed to terrorize communities and consolidate power. When you can rule by fear, why bother with the Constitution?

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

18 minutes ago, Steve O said:

Invading the country

So if the president calls it an invasion, that's it?

The courts disagree. Trump's own intelligence report disagrees.

Use of a metaphor ("we are being invaded!") does not negate due process.