Bruffalo Posted August 15 Posted August 15 14 hours ago, H2o said: He'll fit right in with the rest of the degenerates. Think he's going to get some snaps at QB? That's the kind of leadership they like in Cleveland, and lord knows they need another horse in that race. Quote
LEBills Posted August 15 Posted August 15 25 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: Gotta be 6, no? Coleman Shakir Palmer Samuel Moore and then either Shavers, Hamler or Shenault If Coddrington makes the team, probably just 5 imo. Too many DL and OL to keep Quote
BarleyNY Posted August 15 Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Spiderweb said: Well there's multiple restraining orders against him from multiple women to start with. Haven't seen this against Hairston... Other than the one accusation that was just “dismissed with prejudice” I haven’t seen any other accusation or restraining order against Bond? Google didn’t come up with anything else either. What other info do you have? Quote
billsfan89 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 15 hours ago, HappyDays said: Bond is probably too stupid to make it in the NFL to be honest. Vowed he would break the 40 record and instead barely got below 4.4. Made a statement he was signing with the Browns, turns out it's still up in the air. Would I still take a look at him? Honestly yeah I would given the state of the WR room. He basically just takes over Curtis Samuel's spot on the roster and there's zero risk if he doesn't work out. I doubt the organization will do it though considering Hairston's situation from earlier this year. Most WR's who become full ***** heads usually attempt to behave during their rookie contracts. Once they get paid their destructive behavior escalates. But Bond doesn't seem to be able to keep it together to even get drafted. He just won't make it because while he was a capable on field talent well worthy of getting drafted somewhere in the 3-5 round range if not a little higher if he was clean off the field and tested better he also isn't some sort of generational talent that teams would be very willing to give second, third, and fourth chances to. Simply put he's earned nothing at the NFL level and is imploding before he even gets a chance which means he's never gonna be able to handle it. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 15 Posted August 15 On 4/10/2025 at 6:27 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I take these accusations truly as “innocent until proven guilty.” It’s all fun & games until you or someone close gets falsely accused of this crap. And believe me, all it takes is one lie to send your life spiraling out of control. People laugh, but this is a man’s reputation on the line. If he is guilty then throw away the key. 1 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Speed without hands. He is a less fast Goodwin. Rather Shavers at wr 6. Plays teams and adds a deep threat element. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted August 15 Posted August 15 25 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Speed without hands. He is a less fast Goodwin. Rather Shavers at wr 6. Plays teams and adds a deep threat element. That’s ridiculous. The only thing you got correct is that he adds deep threat ability. Bond has excellent hands despite them being small. He had a 1.9% drop rate this past season. He is a much different WR than Goodwin too. Goodwin was a stretch the field only X WR with a very limited route tree beyond that. Bond has the skill set to run a full tree. He does have some limitations, but that mostly has to do with his size and strength. He has had some trouble playing against large, physical CBs that jam him at the LOS. But he has excellent acceleration, top end speed, lateral agility and stop/start ability. Other than him being a tad bit on the small side - 5’11”, 180# - and needing some refinement on his release package and route running, he is exactly what you want in a Z/Y WR. As a prospect he reminds me of Waddle in size, style and ability. He’d be starting for the Bills less than halfway through this season. 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: That’s ridiculous. The only thing you got correct is that he adds deep threat ability. Bond has excellent hands despite them being small. He had a 1.9% drop rate this past season. He is a much different WR than Goodwin too. Goodwin was a stretch the field only X WR with a very limited route tree beyond that. Bond has the skill set to run a full tree. He does have some limitations, but that mostly has to do with his size and strength. He has had some trouble playing against large, physical CBs that jam him at the LOS. But he has excellent acceleration, top end speed, lateral agility and stop/start ability. Other than him being a tad bit on the small side - 5’11”, 180# - and needing some refinement on his release package and route running, he is exactly what you want in a Z/Y WR. As a prospect he reminds me of Waddle in size, style and ability. He’d be starting for the Bills less than halfway through this season. Waddle, Smith even Tez Johnson produced. Bond is fast. But not fast, fast. Not being productive in college is a massive red flag. He is basicly Kj Hamler without the college production and positive vibes. Little taller less good football player. Quote
BarleyNY Posted August 15 Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Waddle, Smith even Tez Johnson produced. Bond is fast. But not fast, fast. Not being productive in college is a massive red flag. He is basicly Kj Hamler without the college production and positive vibes. Little taller less good football player. Production has certainly been a criticism of Bond. He was largely used as a decoy however. Judging by his play when used more efficiently he certainly seems like he’s capable of much more. I have seen him compared to Terry McLauren for that reason. But if you want to talk college production and where he’d fit on the Bills we can do that. Who on the Bills besides Shakir produced more as a WR in college than Bond has? I think that’s the whole list, right? 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Production has certainly been a criticism of Bond. He was largely used as a decoy however. Judging by his play when used more efficiently he certainly seems like he’s capable of much more. I have seen him compared to Terry McLauren for that reason. But if you want to talk college production and where he’d fit on the Bills we can do that. Who on the Bills besides Shakir produced more as a WR in college than Bond has? I think that’s the whole list, right? Coleman, kincaid, Samuel, Moore, Shanult, and Hamler all more productive as college players. As a prospect he was a day 3 caliber prospect. He would be competing with Hamler, Shanult and Shavers for the last wr spot. Shanult and Shavers offer more on teams. Hamler is the better punt returner. Bond intriguing speed is really just that. Wont offer much on teams so if he made the 53 would not get a jersey and make the active 46. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: Coleman, kincaid, Samuel, Moore, Shanult, and Hamler all more productive as college players. As a prospect he was a day 3 caliber prospect. He would be competing with Hamler, Shanult and Shavers for the last wr spot. Shanult and Shavers offer more on teams. Hamler is the better punt returner. Bond intriguing speed is really just that. Wont offer much on teams so if he made the 53 would not get a jersey and make the active 46. I forgot about Moore. He did have better college stats than Bond. Kinkad is a TE, but if you want to include him, theirs are similar. No one else had as good as stats though. Generally Bond was considered a day two prospect. I saw a couple people that had him late first and a couple people that had him early day three, but largely it was day 2. Beyond that we will have to just wait and see how it works out with all of the players mentioned. Edited August 15 by BarleyNY Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) People shouldn’t confuse college production or lack there of with NFL talent. The NFL is looking for specific attributes like height, speed, blocking, hands, etc. Production is down the list. Take UGA WRs/TEs for example. The last UGA receiver with 1000 yards in a season was Terrence Edwards in 2002. His NFL career lasted 6 games w 1 catch for 10 yards. Since then GA has had guys like AJ Green, Pickens, Bowers, and McConkey. None had 1000 yards in a season college, all have eclipsed that number in the NFL. Ladd and Brock did it as rookies this past season. Also look at Cook vs Davis. Davis was much more productive in college, yet Cook was the 2nd rd pick and is a NFL star. Davis is his backup. FYI they are the same age. Edited August 15 by GASabresIUFan Quote
Mat68 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 14 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: People shouldn’t confuse college production or lack there of with NFL talent. The NFL is looking for specific attributes like height, speed, blocking, hands, etc. Production is down the list. Take UGA WRs/TEs for example. The last UGA receiver with 1000 yards in a season was Terrence Edwards in 2002. His NFL career lasted 6 games w 1 catch for 10 yards. Since then GA has had guys like AJ Green, Pickens, Bowers, and McConkey. None had 1000 yards in a season college, all have eclipsed that number in the NFL. Ladd and Brock did it as rookies this past season. Also look at Cook vs Davis. Davis was much more productive in college, yet Cook was the 2nd rd pick and is a NFL star. Davis is his backup. FYI they are the same age. Cook was still around 1,000 yards all purpose and over 10 tds. Extremely efficient player in an obvious time share. Aj Green and Pickens are freak shows. Ladd had injury issues in a not really prolific style of offense. Bond is not an athletic freak. Alabama and Texas have prolific offenses. Small fast guys are a dime a dozen. Oregon has had 1 every year for 10 years. Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 45 minutes ago, Mat68 said: Cook was still around 1,000 yards all purpose and over 10 tds. Extremely efficient player in an obvious time share. Aj Green and Pickens are freak shows. Ladd had injury issues in a not really prolific style of offense. Bond is not an athletic freak. Alabama and Texas have prolific offenses. Small fast guys are a dime a dozen. Oregon has had 1 every year for 10 years. That’s kind of my point. Don’t evaluate simply on production. 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 17 Posted August 17 On 8/15/2025 at 1:37 PM, GASabresIUFan said: That’s kind of my point. Don’t evaluate simply on production. Right. Bond is simply an outlier without the other things that made those outliers successful. Most of the elite players were dominate in college. If they are not the why needs to be compelling. Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted August 17 Posted August 17 On 8/15/2025 at 4:42 AM, Mat68 said: Speed without hands. He is a less fast Goodwin. Rather Shavers at wr 6. Plays teams and adds a deep threat element. Shavers hasn’t been able to make any roster in 2 seasons and counting. Quote
Mat68 Posted August 18 Posted August 18 20 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said: Shavers hasn’t been able to make any roster in 2 seasons and counting. Today I would rather have Shavers. I like what he has done to make the team the past 2 preseasons. Fits the role outside. He will also be on most special teams units. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 18 Posted August 18 (edited) Browns signed WR Isaiah Bond to a three-year, $3.018 million contract. Contract is fully guaranteed. Because of course it would be the Browns. Edited August 18 by BuffaloBillyG Quote
RoscoeParrish Posted August 18 Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Today I would rather have Shavers. I like what he has done to make the team the past 2 preseasons. Fits the role outside. He will also be on most special teams units. Like I said, the next roster Shavers makes in September will be his first. You can hope he develops into something, but much like other fan favorite WRs at the end of the roster, Brandon Reilly, Dez Lewis, etc etc, the far most likely scenario is he is out of the league in a few Quote
Mat68 Posted August 18 Posted August 18 (edited) 6 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said: Like I said, the next roster Shavers makes in September will be his first. You can hope he develops into something, but much like other fan favorite WRs at the end of the roster, Brandon Reilly, Dez Lewis, etc etc, the far most likely scenario is he is out of the league in a few I dont expect him to be anything but a core teamer. That will get him a handful of offensive snaps a game. That type or wr will play on Sundays. Bond would need injuires for him to see the field. Edited August 18 by Mat68 Quote
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