Mat68 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The signing of Samuel makes the top of the draft wide open. An argument could be had that they might be better getting top interior Dlineman or top five edge at 28. The difference between the 5th and 12 wr is not that wide. Im curious how Beane plays it and what guys he values. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 18 minutes ago, Mat68 said: The signing of Samuel makes the top of the draft wide open. An argument could be had that they might be better getting top interior Dlineman or top five edge at 28. The difference between the 5th and 12 wr is not that wide. Im curious how Beane plays it and what guys he values. In terms of numbers, they can only dress 53 so the 1st 5 picks at least gotta hit, doubt they'll take more than 8. There's no sense of loading up on Oline(minus maybe C), TE, RB,LB etc. just to see them poached off the P.S. Start from the 7th rd. and start pushing everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 14 minutes ago, nosejob said: In terms of numbers, they can only dress 53 so the 1st 5 picks at least gotta hit, doubt they'll take more than 8. There's no sense of loading up on Oline(minus maybe C), TE, RB,LB etc. just to see them poached off the P.S. Start from the 7th rd. and start pushing everything up. Center/Guard is a need. Lost 2 guys that dressed. I think you can get a guy with some juice at RB that would push Johnson. Im not overly impressed with the depth anywhere. Drafting a TE or linebacker and having to cut Morris or Spector helps improve the roster. Later in the draft you go wider odds of hitting. If you need 5 guys you best use 9 -11 picks and find those 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) These may be 2 of the guys McBeane could not pass on in the first if either of them fell to 28. 28. Johnny Newton DT Illinois 60. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina or 28. Jared Verse Edge FSU 60. Xavier Legette WR S Carolina Edited March 16 by Special K 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Passed on Mitchell to take the fella I suppose McD would really want if available at #28. Still came out pretty well. BUF 28. Cooper DeJeanS Iowa 64. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 128. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 132. Jordan JeffersonDT LSU 134. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 144. Javon BakerWR UCF 160. Keith Randolph Jr.DT Illinois 163. Jaylon CarliesS Missouri 189. Marist LiufauLB Notre Dame 200. Dylan McMahonOG NC State 204. Myles ColeEDGE Texas Tech 248. Carter BradleyQB South Alabama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 15 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: To be completely honest, I almost automatically skip past these front-loaded, trade-heavy lists of assets exchanged and picks. No offense to you. The format is less accessible than comparable screenshots. It's a shame because how evidently you enjoy exploring a multitude of draft possibilities, often bucking needs-based fan consensus. But then I have to ask: which effing simulator has Latu available at 28?! That's...interesting. Safety is nicely restocked here, and the EDGE pipeline is filled. Solid #2 RB added. LG now a competition between Edwards and strong prospect in McCormick. But the two biggest needs, WR and DT, according to most fans, are not prioritized. Tez Walker looked LOST at the Senior Bowl (despite his impressive traits), and Eboigbe is more of a 3-4 DE prospect than a 4-3 DT. Not a great fit. Smith could represent value, I guess, given his surprise med e v a l at the combine. Here's a similarly UNsatisfying draft haul that could be beneficial in the longer term. Most of these guys should be NFL contributors sooner rather than later. I'm guessing most posters will be mad about WR and DT. It's MDD, mock draft database. I agree the trade back hauls are ridiculous. As for picks, usually half way through drafting it just becomes tedious, sometimes I just draft highest rated player regardless of position which was the case with Eboigbe. Otherwise it's just me getting to know the players, reading write ups or watching film, I'll watch highlights but I'm generally more interested in the film against a particular team, as your able to see the player from play to play rather than when they make a play. No need to say no offense, we're just having fun with this and I Rather enjoy criticism, as it makes me a better evaluator because it checks my judgement on decisions. Edited March 16 by ScorpionZero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 If he goes defense, specifically edge rusher, Missouri’s Robinson would be legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, BBFL said: If he goes defense, specifically edge rusher, Missouri’s Robinson would be legit. I certainly prefer him to Chop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Just now, Dr. Who said: I certainly prefer him to Chop. Was actually hoping he would be there @ 60… After his combine there’s no way that’s a possibility unless he has a pro day, bombs it and/or gets injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 28. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 60. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 128. MarShawn LloydRB USC 134. Javon SolomonEDGE Troy 144. Tyler DavisDT Clemson 160. Javon BakerWR UCF 163. Tykee SmithS Georgia 189. Nehemiah PritchettCB Auburn 200. Dominique HamptonS Washington 204. Dwight McGlothernCB Arkansas 248. Javontae Jean-BaptisteEDGE Notre Dame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 minute ago, ScorpionZero said: 28. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 60. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 128. MarShawn LloydRB USC 134. Javon SolomonEDGE Troy 144. Tyler DavisDT Clemson 160. Javon BakerWR UCF 163. Tykee SmithS Georgia 189. Nehemiah PritchettCB Auburn 200. Dominique HamptonS Washington 204. Dwight McGlothernCB Arkansas 248. Javontae Jean-BaptisteEDGE Notre Dame I like this one pretty well, but I'm not crazy about Lloyd at 128. Orhorhoro is an interesting fella. It's a bit of a bet on a wild card, but I'm okay with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) Thomas wr 22 (Trade up) sweat DL 52 (trade up) Beaux limmer OC 123 trade up Oladapo S 169 trade up eichenburg LB 204 gabriel Murphy edge 248 Reasonable trades and 11 picks turned into 6, but there’s no way we have room in our roster for 11 picks. In this draft we get our top wr, a top dl, one of the best centers, a very good safety and a good LB. Full disclosure, I have no idea about Murphy Edited March 16 by Turbo44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I see the Cards, Chargers and Bears (from 9, not 1) trading down and the Titans and Giants move up and into the QB market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Ok before you skip past because of trades I made these myself, not the computer generated ones. I only made realistic ones. If you don't think so, correct me. First of all I traded back because of value, without AD being there I didn't see anyone worth 28 at this point, and for the record I see AD as a WR1 in time. I went back to 33 and 65 to pick up 101 as I think late third to fifth is the meat of the draft, when 33 came Nubin was available at 41 so I played the value card and found a trade picking up 38 and 106. Value seemed right at that point and began drafting, always looking at need/BPA. Let me know. Trade Recap Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 33 2024: Round 3, Pick 65 2024: Round 4, Pick 101 Carolina Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 38 2024: Round 4, Pick 106 Tennessee Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 33 My Selections 38 Tyler Nubin who can argue with this S | Minnesota TRADE 65 Adisa Isaac BPA/need designated pass rusher EDGE | Penn State TRADE 101 Devontez Walker deep threat/different type of receiver. WR | North Carolina TRADE 106 Cole Bishop outstanding value, pairs up nicely with Nubin. S | Utah TRADE 128 Ben Sinnott all around tight end, save cap space next season letting Knox go. Improved running game in 12/13 personnel. Also reminds me of Wychek/Clark TE | Kansas State 134 Javon Baker different type of receiver, talented had upside. WR | UCF 144 DeWayne Carter fits in rotation DL | Duke 160 Javon Solomon Small School, talented, possible steal. EDGE | Troy 163 Nehemiah Pritchett size, skill in zone defense CB | Auburn 196 Isaac Guerendo 6' 220lbs with 4.33 long speed, can't do worse. RB | Louisville 200 Dwight McGlothern another corner made for zone. CB | Arkansas 204 Hunter Nourzad well coached, G/C prospect. IOL | Penn State 248 Fabien Lovett size/experience based traits. DL | Florida State Tell me what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, ScorpionZero said: Ok before you skip past because of trades I made these myself, not the computer generated ones. I only made realistic ones. If you don't think so, correct me. First of all I traded back because of value, without AD being there I didn't see anyone worth 28 at this point, and for the record I see AD as a WR1 in time. I went back to 33 and 65 to pick up 101 as I think late third to fifth is the meat of the draft, when 33 came Nubin was available at 41 so I played the value card and found a trade picking up 38 and 106. Value seemed right at that point and began drafting, always looking at need/BPA. Let me know. Trade Recap Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 33 2024: Round 3, Pick 65 2024: Round 4, Pick 101 Carolina Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 38 2024: Round 4, Pick 106 Tennessee Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 33 My Selections 38 Tyler Nubin who can argue with this S | Minnesota TRADE 65 Adisa Isaac BPA/need designated pass rusher EDGE | Penn State TRADE 101 Devontez Walker deep threat/different type of receiver. WR | North Carolina TRADE 106 Cole Bishop outstanding value, pairs up nicely with Nubin. S | Utah TRADE 128 Ben Sinnott all around tight end, save cap space next season letting Knox go. Improved running game in 12/13 personnel. Also reminds me of Wychek/Clark TE | Kansas State 134 Javon Baker different type of receiver, talented had upside. WR | UCF 144 DeWayne Carter fits in rotation DL | Duke 160 Javon Solomon Small School, talented, possible steal. EDGE | Troy 163 Nehemiah Pritchett size, skill in zone defense CB | Auburn 196 Isaac Guerendo 6' 220lbs with 4.33 long speed, can't do worse. RB | Louisville 200 Dwight McGlothern another corner made for zone. CB | Arkansas 204 Hunter Nourzad well coached, G/C prospect. IOL | Penn State 248 Fabien Lovett size/experience based traits. DL | Florida State Tell me what you think. I think all the trades looks reasonable but I don’t like the strategy. Buffalo needs quality not quantity, so I see them trading up at least once, maybe twice in rd’s 1-4 and end up drafting 7-8 players. No need to use 11 of picks cuz only roster space probably for 5-6 draftees. I’d be interested in your draft trading up two to three times, as that’s what beane has historically done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: I think all the trades looks reasonable but I don’t like the strategy. Buffalo needs quality not quantity, so I see them trading up at least once, maybe twice in rd’s 1-4 and end up drafting 7-8 players. No need to use 11 of picks cuz only roster space probably for 5-6 draftees. I’d be interested in your draft trading up two to three times, as that’s what beane has historically done Understood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Who Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Okay, there's no way Jordan Jefferson is there at #248. The model is way messed up to let that happen. I don't really like Kinchens. I'd rather take Bullard or Cole Bishop there, though #60 is too rich. But nice job, and I'll forgive it, because you somehow ended up with Thomas. If that happens, I'm going to imbibe a celebratory Guinness. If they take D in the first, I'm going to have a consolatory Guinness. I'm prepared, either way . . . Edited March 17 by Dr. Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, Dr. Who said: Okay, there's no way Jordan Jefferson is there at #248. The model is way messed up to let that happen. I don't really like Kinchens. I'd rather take Bullard or Cole there, though #60 is too rich. But nice job, and I'll forgive it, because you somehow ended up with Thomas. If that happens, I'm going to imbibe a celebratory Guinness. If they take D in the first, I'm going to have a consolatory Guinness. I'm prepared, either way . . . Yeah, pretty much all of the Simulators rankings are f-cked. Honestly, they're kind of a waste of time. I've yet to find one where I think it's pretty spot on. And there's always a handful of players on the board at spots where I'm like "no way". Like Jefferson. I'd already taken Jackson and Hall, but then I'm looking over my options at 248 and thought "wait, what?". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 15 Indianapolis Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 3, Pick 80 2024: Round 4, Pick 115 Cincinnati Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 128 2024: Round 5, Pick 160 2024: Round 6, Pick 196 2024: Round 7, Pick 248 My Selections 15 Brian Thomas Jr. WR | LSU TRADE 80 Blake Corum RB | Michigan TRADE 115 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State TRADE 134 Dadrion Taylor-Demerson S | Texas Tech 144 Mekhi Wingo DL | LSU 163 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn 200 Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE | Washington 204 Dwight McGlothern CB | Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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